[fov]

Threads become uneditable after some point. I can still edit it, but adding your thoughts on a new post works just as well.

[paulcdavis]

Add Dark Side of the Moon to the list of games that will run (with text displayed) on a virtual pc with Windows 95 installed.

[morriss]

Call me a sausage, but why use a VM when you can simly create a partition drive with Win98 installed?

[fov]

Originally Posted by morriss

Call me a sausage, but why use a VM when you can simly create a partition drive with Win98 installed?

Some people see that as more work. Also I have heard some horror stories about trying to create partitions in XP... but maybe it's easier now with SP2 than it used to be? I remember a lot of people having trouble with partitions when XP first came out.

[morriss]

Originally Posted by fov

Some people see that as more work. Also I have heard some horror stories about trying to create partitions in XP... but maybe it's easier now with SP2 than it used to be? I remember a lot of people having trouble with partitions when XP first came out.

Partition Magic is your friend. It's an extremely user friendly system, it took me all of 'literally' 2 mins tel PM what to do. Then reboot, wait about 5-10mins and voila! A partition drive.

Or just put the Win98 CD in your cd Drive. Restart and then go into your BIOS. Tell the PC to boot from CD and then you'll be able to creat a partition to install Win98 from.

[littleguybrush]

I also tried running the underrated Appeal game 'Outcast' on a VM but something strange kept happening. The game would install, then delete itself just after the setup program closed. I don't really know how to explain this, I suppose it's just some weird reaction to the VM, but I can't see how the game is influenced by it.

This has nothing to do with VM. It was a well-known game bug. There is a patch to fix this.

[Coop]

Can someone tell me how to use DOSBOX with a CD? I have no idea how to run a cd in dosbox..I run games by doing it off the harddrive and it takes up a lot of space. i remember a site that showed how and it seemed easy but i cant find it thx

[Dale Baldwin]

Originally Posted by Coop

Can someone tell me how to use DOSBOX with a CD?

mount c d:\ -t cdrom is the simplest way.
That would mount a CD-rom drive d:\ to drive c: in DosBox.
Further syntax can be found by typing intro cdrom into DosBox, but the simplest way has always worked for me so far.

[Davies]

Originally Posted by fov

Some people see that as more work. Also I have heard some horror stories about trying to create partitions in XP... but maybe it's easier now with SP2 than it used to be? I remember a lot of people having trouble with partitions when XP first came out.

My previous computer had two hard drives, one running 98 and the other running XP. It was fine until one of them developed a problem. It became impossible to tell which drive was complaining, which was acting up, etc. and in the end everything crashed.

Now I have my desktop PC running Windows XP and doing all my serious stuff, and a high-spec laptop running 98SE for games and "fiddling about" type projects.

I seem to recall that if you want a dual drive or partition, you have to install the lowest-spec Windows first and work upwards. In other words, you have to begin with a Windows 98 system and then add the XP. You just get told off if you're already running XP and want to add 98.

Originally Posted by Davies

My previous computer had two hard drives, one running 98 and the other running XP. It was fine until one of them developed a problem. It became impossible to tell which drive was complaining, which was acting up, etc. and in the end everything crashed.

Now I have my desktop PC running Windows XP and doing all my serious stuff, and a high-spec laptop running 98SE for games and "fiddling about" type projects.

I seem to recall that if you want a dual drive or partition, you have to install the lowest-spec Windows first and work upwards. In other words, you have to begin with a Windows 98 system and then add the XP. You just get told off if you're already running XP and want to add 98.

Yes. If you use Partion Commander you can make it hide the XP partion and make it possible to install 98 onto a partion you have created, or a own harddisk. But it's still risky. It's easy to end up sitting there with an XP that won't boot, and a 98 that won't boot either because it's not on the first partion(unless you decide to move the XP partion up... which also can make XP angry and decide that it can't find the partion anymore, unless you fix your boot.ini file first...)

Also, some newer hardware doesn't have proper 98 drivers. That means suddenly something you depend upon doesn't work properly. Also, many older games won't work with a new PC because it will not like that the CPU is so powerful and that you have that much RAM... and that much disc space... etc... even when you run Win98. Often an emulator hides all those things and make the game only see a PC matching the specifiations it needs. So installing 98 is no way a guaranty that all your old games will work, but the chance may be bigger for them to work than in XP.

Installing XP first, then 98 makes 98 takes control over the booting, making XP unbootable. This can be fixed, if you installed 98 and XP to seperate partions, by installing a boot manager that can take control over the boot process. But yes, often the easiest is just installing 98 first and then XP to another partion.

[Davies]

Yes, I just have to reiterate: Running two platforms in one computer (whether in separate partitions or separate hard drives) works GREAT until something goes wrong. And then it REALLY goes wrong.

I'm not running that risk again. Computers are cheap enough these days to have two and keep them separate.

[Dara100]

Virtual Machine is free now and a perfect solution to the problem of getting old operating systems on your computer after installing XP or Vista. I am running Win 98 SE in VM right now and it solves the problem of running games that just won't run outside a 9x environment. As a side note, it gives me new respect for how far Windows has come. I'd almost forgotten what it was like to have to track down your own drivers if you want to do more than play games on the os.