[Terramax]

I hope I've done what you said right. It says this in the DW file that I created.

Directory of CDW\.
. <DIR> 12-11-2005 11:55
.. <DIR> 11-11-2005 23:09
DISCWLD <DIR> 11-11-2005 23:08
BLAH TXT 0 12-11-2005 11:55
DISC BAT 147 23-02-1995 22:58
DWU EXE 52,656 23-02-1995 22:23
3 File(s) 52,803 Bytes.
3 Dir(s) 110,540,800 Bytes free.

I'm not sure, would it have been better to have made the 'blah' file in the DRIVERS file?

[Kurufinwe]

Originally Posted by Terramax

I'm not sure, would it have been better to have made the 'blah' file in the DRIVERS file?

Where is this folder? You've got C:\DW\, under which there is C:\DW\DISCWLD\. Is the DRIVERS folder under that? Anyway, can you do the dir thing again in C:\DW\DISCWLD\? And in DRIVERS too, while you're at it?
(though, before that, you may try launching setsound from C:\DW\DISCWLD; maybe it's just sitting there).

[MdaG]

If you have the time to wait, the people at SCUMMVM are working on interpreting the engine. So in a while you'll be able to use scummvm to play it.

[Terramax]

Okay, sorry I haven't replied recently, college coursework calls. Here's the rest of the files list.

When going into file DW, the files are...

Illegal command: drivers\dir.
<DIR> 16-11-2005 22:59
.. <DIR> 12-11-2005 11:55
DRIVERS <DIR> 11-11-2005 23:08
ACT1 GRA 142,532 28-02-1995 1:26
ACT2 GRA 143,532 28-02-1995 1:26
ACT3 GRA 144,384 28-02-1995 1:26
ACT4 GRA 144,416 28-02-1995 1:26
ALLEY GRA 616,240 28-02-1995 1:26
ALSHOP GRA 598,968 28-02-1995 1:28
ALTAR GRA 323,348 28-02-1995 1:28
ANKHMAP GRA 136,548 28-02-1995 1:28
ARCH GRA 314,648 28-02-1995 1:28
ATUIN GRA 118,952 28-02-1995 1:28
BAR GRA 569,424 28-02-1995 1:29
BARBER GRA 271,940 28-02-1995 1:29
BARN GRA 411,184 28-02-1995 1:29
BLAH TXT 0 16-11-2005 22:59
BOGUS GRA 8 28-02-1995 0:55
BOOK GRA 74,444 28-02-1995 1:23
BRETHREN GRA 262,460 28-02-1995 1:30
CAMERA GRA 312,656 28-02-1995 1:30
CATHOUSE GRA 127,584 28-02-1995 1:30
CELLAR GRA 123,404 28-02-1995 1:30
CITYGATE GRA 287,232 28-02-1995 1:31
CLAWS1 GRA 26,368 28-02-1995 1:30
CLAWS2 GRA 54,648 28-02-1995 1:30
CLEAVAGE GRA 59,452 28-02-1995 1:31
CLIMAX GRA 961,824 28-02-1995 1:25
CLOSET GRA 186,104 28-02-1995 1:31
CLOSEUP GRA 427,360 28-02-1995 1:31
CREDITS GRA 106,892 28-02-1995 1:25
CUTALLEY GRA 178,712 28-02-1995 1:26
CUTALSHO GRA 403,588 28-02-1995 1:28
CUTANKHM GRA 74,260 28-02-1995 1:28
CUTBAR GRA 241,328 28-02-1995 1:29
CUTBARN GRA 736,404 28-02-1995 1:30
CUTHIDEO GRA 79,356 28-02-1995 1:34
CUTMONKC GRA 196,008 28-02-1995 1:37
CUTPALEN GRA 122,624 28-02-1995 1:38
CUTPUB GRA 180,220 28-02-1995 1:38
CUTROOFT GRA 372,548 28-02-1995 1:39
CUTTEMPL GRA 184,948 28-02-1995 1:41
CUTTHRON GRA 496,460 28-02-1995 1:42
CUTTOILE GRA 443,664 28-02-1995 1:42
DEATHDUN GRA 412,408 28-02-1995 1:32
DEATHFIS GRA 225,196 28-02-1995 1:33
DEATHFOO GRA 310,448 28-02-1995 1:33
DEATHROO GRA 238,380 28-02-1995 1:39
DEATHSHA GRA 454,344 28-02-1995 1:40
DEATHTHI GRA 215,324 28-02-1995 1:41
DETECTOR GRA 107,556 28-02-1995 1:31
DINING GRA 914,644 28-02-1995 1:31
DISCMAP GRA 94,324 28-02-1995 1:31
DONKCART GRA 77,908 28-02-1995 1:31
DRAGCAGE GRA 434,532 28-02-1995 1:32
DRAGON GRA 64,852 28-02-1995 1:30
DUNGEON GRA 621,596 28-02-1995 1:32
DUNNYMAN GRA 590,072 28-02-1995 1:32
DW GRA 781,656 28-02-1995 1:44
DWB EXE 422,425 27-02-1995 13:12
DWCONF 36 12-11-2005 13:27
DWU EXE 52,656 23-02-1995 22:23
ENDGAME GRA 324,020 28-02-1995 1:32
ENGLISH IDX 27,400 27-02-1995 21:19
ENGLISH SMP 343,755,891 27-02-1995 21:19
ENGLISH TXT 228,542 27-02-1995 23:27
ENSUITE GRA 89,052 28-02-1995 1:32
FINALE GRA 751,020 28-02-1995 1:24
FISHMONG GRA 213,136 28-02-1995 1:33
FOOL GRA 231,316 28-02-1995 1:33
GODS GRA 654,128 28-02-1995 1:33
GORGE GRA 718,772 28-02-1995 1:33
HAT GRA 633,884 28-02-1995 1:33
HIDEOUT GRA 100,880 28-02-1995 1:34
HOLRECEP GRA 220,216 28-02-1995 1:39
HOLRETRO GRA 151,924 28-02-1995 1:38
INDEX 2,940 28-02-1995 1:44
INN GRA 600,164 28-02-1995 1:34
INNROOM GRA 137,632 28-02-1995 1:34
INTROARC GRA 184,412 28-02-1995 1:35
INTROHID GRA 105,968 28-02-1995 1:35
INTROSHA GRA 656,400 28-02-1995 1:35
INTROTUR GRA 742,712 21-02-1995 14:25
INTROUNI GRA 139,356 28-02-1995 1:35
ISLAND GRA 359,664 28-02-1995 1:35
KITCHEN GRA 300,852 28-02-1995 1:35
LIBRARY GRA 751,440 28-02-1995 1:36
LIGHTNIN GRA 361,664 28-02-1995 1:31
LIVERY GRA 175,032 28-02-1995 1:36
LSPACE GRA 773,728 28-02-1995 1:36
LWOOD GRA 359,544 28-02-1995 1:36
MAGBOOK GRA 974,324 28-02-1995 1:37
MAMBO GRA 282,840 28-02-1995 1:37
MIDI DAT 801,574 28-02-1995 1:44
MINE GRA 537,788 28-02-1995 1:37
MINEENT GRA 203,008 28-02-1995 1:37
MIRROR GRA 185,916 28-02-1995 1:37
MISSILE GRA 116,840 28-02-1995 1:37
MONK1 GRA 134,228 28-02-1995 1:30
MONK2 GRA 167,996 28-02-1995 1:30
MONK2B GRA 168,452 28-02-1995 1:30
MONK3 GRA 85,696 28-02-1995 1:30
MONK4 GRA 261,560 28-02-1995 1:30
MONK5 GRA 170,744 28-02-1995 1:30
MONKCORN GRA 158,632 28-02-1995 1:37
MOUNTPAS GRA 296,920 28-02-1995 1:37
MYSTWOOD GRA 356,192 28-02-1995 1:37
OBJECTS GRA 161,604 28-02-1995 1:23
OVEREDGE GRA 213,644 28-02-1995 1:38
PALENT GRA 288,380 28-02-1995 1:38
PARK GRA 117,140 28-02-1995 1:38
PASTANKH GRA 198,728 28-02-1995 1:28
PASTBAR GRA 440,208 28-02-1995 1:29
PASTCATH GRA 294,584 28-02-1995 1:30
PASTCITY GRA 73,300 28-02-1995 1:30
PASTENSU GRA 75,408 28-02-1995 1:32
PASTFISH GRA 79,564 28-02-1995 1:33
PASTHIDE GRA 268,412 28-02-1995 1:34
PASTINN GRA 176,748 28-02-1995 1:34
PASTINNR GRA 459,032 28-02-1995 1:34
PASTLIBR GRA 465,332 28-02-1995 1:36
PASTMONK GRA 174,888 28-02-1995 1:37
PASTPARK GRA 353,956 28-02-1995 1:38
PASTPUB GRA 402,056 28-02-1995 1:38
PASTSHAD GRA 601,496 28-02-1995 1:40
PASTSTRE GRA 332,112 28-02-1995 1:41
PASTTHIE GRA 57,708 28-02-1995 1:41
PASTTOIL GRA 110,056 28-02-1995 1:42
PAVEMENT GRA 249,452 28-02-1995 1:38
PERFECT1 GRA 489,240 28-02-1995 1:25
PSYGNOSI GRA 34,960 28-02-1995 1:25
PUB GRA 166,148 28-02-1995 1:38
RAMKIN GRA 353,868 28-02-1995 1:38
REAR GRA 137,136 28-02-1995 1:38
RECEPTIO GRA 199,496 28-02-1995 1:38
RETRO GRA 180,380 28-02-1995 1:38
RINCEROO GRA 638,472 28-02-1995 1:39
RM DRV 10,240 27-02-1995 22:02
ROCKROLL GRA 275,144 28-02-1995 1:41
ROOFTOPS GRA 431,500 28-02-1995 1:39
SCENEMEN GRA 52,584 28-02-1995 0:54
SHADES GRA 729,712 28-02-1995 1:39
SHEEP GRA 208,588 28-02-1995 1:40
SPACE GRA 118,388 28-02-1995 1:40
SPIRE GRA 658,444 28-02-1995 1:40
SQUARE GRA 970,332 28-02-1995 1:41
STREET GRA 445,300 28-02-1995 1:41
SUNSET GRA 300,244 28-02-1995 1:41
TEMPLE GRA 241,800 28-02-1995 1:41
THIEF GRA 90,024 28-02-1995 1:41
THRONE GRA 643,156 28-02-1995 1:42
TITLE GRA 73,416 28-02-1995 1:25
TOILET GRA 162,668 28-02-1995 1:43
TOYSHOP GRA 146,432 28-02-1995 1:43
TRAILERS GRA 73,212 28-02-1995 1:26
TURTLE GRA 829,536 28-02-1995 1:25
TURTLE2 GRA 673,248 28-02-1995 1:26
TWG GRA 126,440 28-02-1995 1:25
UNIGARD GRA 511,304 28-02-1995 1:43
UNSEEN GRA 623,648 28-02-1995 1:43
WITCH GRA 284,588 28-02-1995 1:43
WORLDEDG GRA 344,496 28-02-1995 1:43
XSPOT GRA 76,724 28-02-1995 1:43
160 File(s) 392,224,104 Bytes.
3 Dir(s) 110,540,800 Bytes free.

[Terramax]

Going into the 'DRIVERS' folder, the list is...

Directory of CDW\DISCWLD\DRIVERS\.
. <DIR> 16-11-2005 23:02
.. <DIR> 16-11-2005 22:59
ADLIB ADD 36 25-10-1993 3:12
ADLIB ADV 14,693 06-07-1992 22:00
ADLIBG ADD 28 01-02-1995 11:00
ADLIBG ADV 16,175 06-07-1992 22:00
BLAH TXT 0 16-11-2005 23:02
FAT OPL 3,622 22-02-1993 7:37
GF166 COM 5,493 12-11-1993 10:32
GF1MIDI ADD 47 01-02-1995 3:22
GF1MIDI ADV 10,816 25-06-1993 5:24
MT32MPU ADD 34 09-11-1993 2:53
MT32MPU ADV 10,590 16-03-1992 4:00
NOMIDI ADD 32 04-02-1995 7:30
NOSOUND COM 268 04-02-1995 7:27
PMIDPAK COM 13,312 31-01-1994 1:18
SB16 COM 4,798 29-03-1994 3:40
SBAWE32 ADD 36 23-01-1995 9:48
SBAWE32 ADV 39,843 28-02-1994 17:01
SBCLONE COM 4,576 28-01-1994 2:10
SBFM ADD 44 24-01-1995 2:50
SBFM ADV 14,743 06-07-1992 22:00
SBLASTER COM 4,560 28-01-1994 2:10
SBP1FM ADD 43 19-10-1993 5:11
SBP1FM ADV 15,153 06-07-1992 22:00
SBP2FM ADD 40 18-04-1994 1:05
SBP2FM ADV 16,263 06-07-1992 22:00
SBPRO COM 4,704 28-01-1994 2:10
SBWAVE COM 7,091 19-04-1994 5:12
SC32MPU ADD 37 01-02-1995 10:29
SC32MPU ADV 10,590 16-03-1992 4:00
ULTRAMID EXE 38,396 08-02-1995 8:50
UM200 INI 6,314 23-08-1993 6:48
UM206 INI 6,311 23-08-1993 6:48
UM206A INI 6,311 23-08-1993 6:47
33 File(s) 254,999 Bytes.
2 Dir(s) 110,540,800 Bytes free.

I hope this helps.

[Kurufinwe]

Silly, silly, silly me...

Well, actually, no: silly, silly, silly Discworld developpers.

They didn't include proper sound devices management in the original version: what you need is version 1.04, with the use of this patch.

Here's what you'll do. Move the contents of all your \DW\DISCWLD\ directly into your \DW folder, that'll make things easier. You can also delete the whole DRIVERS subfolder. Then uncompress the patch in your \DW\ folder (which is where now all the game files are) and run disc104.exe (don't worry about the update.bat thing).
Then you'll be able to run setsound and all that, as I explained earlier.

Hopefully, that should be it... finally.

[Terramax]

I can't seem to find a link to download the patch. And I can't find the patch on any other sites. It says something about them rebuilding the site. Does this mean that they've stopped patch downloads temporarily?

[Kurufinwe]

Just follow the link I gave and click on one of the mirrors. I've just tried it again, and it works.

[Terramax]

Nope, the mirrors all take me to http://dlh.net/

>.<

[Kurufinwe]

I really don't know what to tell you... Try again, maybe it was just an intermittent problem with their server? It is still working fine for me (with the 2nd and 3rd mirror).

(don't use any sort of dowload manager; I think their server doesn't accept that ; just download it with your browser)

If it still doesn't work, send me your email address by PM and I'll send the file to you.

[Terramax]

Okay I managed to get the file somewhere else. I then dumped the dw104 file into the subfolder, opened it with setsound and let it do its magic.

And is it me or is the music in the pc version different to the psx version?

Oh and, excuse me if you've already explained how but how do I fix the save problem (it won't remember my save games)?

Oh, and, I'm really thankful for so far ^^

[Kurufinwe]

Originally Posted by Terramax

And is it me or is the music in the pc version different to the psx version?

I wouldn't know: I've never played the PSX version. What do you mean by different, anyway? Different tunes or different orchestrations? If it's the latter, it's normal: the PC version uses General MIDI for music (at least, if you've configured it as I've advised you to), which is something that the PSX doesn't have, and the exact sound of which depends heavily on the sound card you use.

Oh and, excuse me if you've already explained how but how do I fix the save problem (it won't remember my save games)?

me

I thought making the folder writeable would be enough to get the saves to work, but obviously it's not that... I should have checked, which I now have. OK, in DOSBox, go to your \DW\ folder (which is where now all your game files should be, right? Go to \DW\DISCWLD\ instead if you didn't move them), and type:

md save

And then launch the game normally and you should now be able to save.

[Terramax]

Nope. Dosbox accepts md save and creates a save folder but when I save it doesn't appear in the load screen or in the save folder.

[Kurufinwe]

Does DOSBox say anything (in the DOSBox console) when you try to save, such as Warning: file creation failed: c:\DW\SAVE\SG.1 (which is what I get if the SAVE subfolder doesn't exist)?

[Terramax]

Warning: file creation failed: C: \oldgames\DISCWLD.CD\SAVE\SG.1

[Kurufinwe]

I know there's a better way to do that (and store the savegames where the game wants you to), but it's high time the damn thing started working, so let's forget about proper ways.

So, we'll just create the save folder wherever the game wants it to be. So, in DOSBox, where you're under C:\ (not C:\DW\):

md DISCWLD.CD
cd DISCWLD.CD
md SAVE

And the launch the game normally.

It shouldn't have been so hard to get this game to work normally, but, well, I dunno, I have very fuzzy memories of how I first got it to work, and the fact that it doesn't have any kind of proper installer certainly doesn't help.

I'm not going to say 'and that should be it', as I've already said it prematurely far too many times; I'll just keep my fingers crossed.

[Terramax]

YES! It worked (has a heart attack).

Okay, so I've done that and the last thing, how do I change the frame size of dosbox automatically (my pc monitor doesn't support this game full size, even though DW2 works fine in full screen)?

I tried looking on the read me file and on the dosbox forum but nothing on this topic.

Hopefully this should be the last question.

[Kurufinwe]

I'm not very knowledgeable about the DOSBox graphic modes; I found something that worked for me, but this all depends on both your video card (ATIs and nVidias behave slightly differently) and your monitor.

My advice is that you just experiment for yourself with the various options. Open your dosbox.conf, and try playing with the options in the [sdl] and [render] sections. There are explanations inside the file, and more detailed ones here and here. I especially advise you to try fiddling with output, fullfixed & fullresolution (those two work together, and I think they're what you need), possibly hwscale, as well as the scalers. I know this is very vague but, as I said, this really depends on your hardware.

And good to hear that it is finally starting to work.

[Terramax]

Got it working by the way ^^

The game is great. Brings back memories.

[Kurufinwe]

What did you do? (this might help people who have a similar problem and find this thread with a search)

And yes, it's a great game, with some extremely difficult puzzles. I'll have to replay it someday, but it's still too fresh for me now.