Stuck in The Last Express

remixor · 09-13-2003, 10:57 PM

So I just got a copy of The Last Express, and I started playing it today. I'm really intruiged by the way the game works, but after playing for a pretty short time, I think I've hit a dead end. I could very well just be missing something though.

Here's what I've done:

Spoiler:

Found the dead body
Thrown the body out the window
Changed into the new coat
Seen the kid with the whistle
Gotten the passenger list
Found the scarf and scroll
Seen Alexei building a bomb through the window
Talked with Schmidt in the dinner car
Listened to a bunch of random people talk
Shown the scroll to Alexei
Met with His Excellence
Avoided the police
Given the scroll to Tatania
Explored the baggage car

The game came with the official strategy guide, so I checked out of desparation when it because obvious (after wandering around the train for several real-life hours) that I couldn't figure out what to do. The first thing I realized was that I did everything out of order, but I didn't think that was a big deal. Now, I'm not so sure. Apparently, I was supposed to fight with some guy named Milos before the police boarded the train. It says you can do that later, though, but you HAVE to fight him before the game will let you go to sleep. Now it's 11pm already, and Milos is asleep in his room! I tried just hanging out in my room waiting for him to come, but eventually I realized it wasn't going to work. Has anyone run into this problem, or do they know another way to get Milos to come to your room? I need to fight him so I can sleep!

bigjko · 09-13-2003, 11:01 PM

Spoiler:
You can actually rewind time, just rewind it to a point where Milos has a chance of striking at you in your cabin.

pleto4_ryan · 09-13-2003, 11:35 PM

Just a little thing, is your bed ready for sleep?

remixor · 09-13-2003, 11:39 PM

Yes, I made the bed myself.

pleto4_ryan · 09-13-2003, 11:51 PM

mmm....and the "z" doesn't apear when you put the cursor on the bed? Try to knock some door...

You can do really easily what bigjko , but the think is that there shouldn't have been such problems. Bug? maybe...To find him in your room, you don't wait for him, you see him coming in and then you enter...If i remember correctly it happens after the dinner around 8-9 oclock

mmmm

twifkak · 09-14-2003, 04:10 PM

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with going to sleep at a reasonable hour. I wouldn't worry about being stuck until you approach an "endgame" cutscene. (That said, I think there might be a few deadends that can cause trouble.. I'm not sure.) Just like real life, the game can leave you with nothing to do but wait, sometimes.

remixor · 09-14-2003, 09:04 PM

Well, I ended up just waiting (and waiting, and waiting), and eventually the game allowed me to go to sleep without ever fighting Milos. I was later able to meet with him as if I'd fought with him the first time around. I'm sure it wasn't supposed to happen this way, but at least I got through it. Since then I've completed the game, and I have to say it was incredible. I kept thinking to myself how much thought and planning must have gone into the creation of a game like this. I'm planning on playing through at least a few more times, but I think I can fairly safely say this is heading towards my list of top adventures.

twifkak · 09-15-2003, 01:23 AM

BTW, looking through that list of things you did, I saw a couple things that you didn't do, and a couple things I didn't. This game is truly a masterpiece.

pleto4_ryan · 09-15-2003, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twifkak

This game is truly a masterpiece.

You can say that again

remixor · 09-15-2003, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twifkak

BTW, looking through that list of things you did, I saw a couple things that you didn't do, and a couple things I didn't.

Yeah, even having played it through once, I noticed how many different possibilities were available (when I was rewinding, etc.). One of the things that really impresses me is that the game isn't just an otherwise average game with a real-time system. All the aspects of the game really come together amazingly well, especially when one considers that the entire thing takes place in only about five or six train cars. It manages to feel incredibly complete despite the very condensed time period and physical area.

sillycanadian · 09-15-2003, 12:54 PM

That's a completely different order from how I played it too. And there were a few things there that I certainly didn't do my first time through.

Love this game.

09-13-2003, 10:57 PM	#1
remixor A search for a crazy man! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 3,987	Stuck in The Last Express So I just got a copy of The Last Express, and I started playing it today. I'm really intruiged by the way the game works, but after playing for a pretty short time, I think I've hit a dead end. I could very well just be missing something though. Here's what I've done: Spoiler: Found the dead body Thrown the body out the window Changed into the new coat Seen the kid with the whistle Gotten the passenger list Found the scarf and scroll Seen Alexei building a bomb through the window Talked with Schmidt in the dinner car Listened to a bunch of random people talk Shown the scroll to Alexei Met with His Excellence Avoided the police Given the scroll to Tatania Explored the baggage car The game came with the official strategy guide, so I checked out of desparation when it because obvious (after wandering around the train for several real-life hours) that I couldn't figure out what to do. The first thing I realized was that I did everything out of order, but I didn't think that was a big deal. Now, I'm not so sure. Apparently, I was supposed to fight with some guy named Milos before the police boarded the train. It says you can do that later, though, but you HAVE to fight him before the game will let you go to sleep. Now it's 11pm already, and Milos is asleep in his room! I tried just hanging out in my room waiting for him to come, but eventually I realized it wasn't going to work. Has anyone run into this problem, or do they know another way to get Milos to come to your room? I need to fight him so I can sleep! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Chris "News Editor" Remo Some sort of Writer or Editor or Something, Idle Thumbs "Some comparisons are a little less obvious. I always think of Grim Fandango as Casablanca on acid." - Will Wright

09-13-2003, 11:01 PM	#2
bigjko El Luchador Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 1,629	Spoiler: You can actually rewind time, just rewind it to a point where Milos has a chance of striking at you in your cabin. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Use Verb On Noun - Adventure game inspired illustrations

09-13-2003, 11:35 PM	#3
pleto4_ryan After 2 years... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Greece Posts: 520	Just a little thing, is your bed ready for sleep? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Interactive storytelling! When dreams are lost and nightmares come to life you are in a Dreamfall

09-13-2003, 11:39 PM	#4
remixor A search for a crazy man! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 3,987	Yes, I made the bed myself. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Chris "News Editor" Remo Some sort of Writer or Editor or Something, Idle Thumbs "Some comparisons are a little less obvious. I always think of Grim Fandango as Casablanca on acid." - Will Wright

09-13-2003, 11:51 PM	#5
pleto4_ryan After 2 years... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Greece Posts: 520	mmm....and the "z" doesn't apear when you put the cursor on the bed? Try to knock some door... You can do really easily what bigjko , but the think is that there shouldn't have been such problems. Bug? maybe...To find him in your room, you don't wait for him, you see him coming in and then you enter...If i remember correctly it happens after the dinner around 8-9 oclock mmmm Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Interactive storytelling! When dreams are lost and nightmares come to life you are in a Dreamfall

09-14-2003, 04:10 PM	#6
twifkak :P ^^^ at tamz Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Football Town, USA Posts: 1,354	Yeah, there's nothing wrong with going to sleep at a reasonable hour. I wouldn't worry about being stuck until you approach an "endgame" cutscene. (That said, I think there might be a few deadends that can cause trouble.. I'm not sure.) Just like real life, the game can leave you with nothing to do but wait, sometimes. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ In the next AG crash ___\| A temporary board ____\| I am born to spam In the "Get New" list __\| Scrolling up and down \| I am born to spam through a broadband ISP \| i am back to steal your bandwidth --Spammo-head, "Windbag"

09-14-2003, 09:04 PM	#7
remixor A search for a crazy man! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 3,987	Well, I ended up just waiting (and waiting, and waiting), and eventually the game allowed me to go to sleep without ever fighting Milos. I was later able to meet with him as if I'd fought with him the first time around. I'm sure it wasn't supposed to happen this way, but at least I got through it. Since then I've completed the game, and I have to say it was incredible. I kept thinking to myself how much thought and planning must have gone into the creation of a game like this. I'm planning on playing through at least a few more times, but I think I can fairly safely say this is heading towards my list of top adventures. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Chris "News Editor" Remo Some sort of Writer or Editor or Something, Idle Thumbs "Some comparisons are a little less obvious. I always think of Grim Fandango as Casablanca on acid." - Will Wright

09-15-2003, 01:23 AM	#8
twifkak :P ^^^ at tamz Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Football Town, USA Posts: 1,354	BTW, looking through that list of things you did, I saw a couple things that you didn't do, and a couple things I didn't. This game is truly a masterpiece. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ In the next AG crash ___\| A temporary board ____\| I am born to spam In the "Get New" list __\| Scrolling up and down \| I am born to spam through a broadband ISP \| i am back to steal your bandwidth --Spammo-head, "Windbag"

09-15-2003, 12:54 PM	#11
sillycanadian Novice Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingston, ON Posts: 95	That's a completely different order from how I played it too. And there were a few things there that I certainly didn't do my first time through. Love this game. Share Share this post on Twitter

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