05-21-2005, 09:50 PM | #1 |
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Are next generation games worth $60?
If anyone has looked over at www.ebgames.com, they have a bunch of PS3 and Xbox360 games up for pre-order at $60 each. A while back there was speculation that next gen titles would cost more. Do you think the price increase is necessary for production costs and what not, or is it just distributors/publishers getting greedy?
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05-21-2005, 11:08 PM | #2 |
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I think even $50 is too much for most of the crap that gets put out there. There are a few games that might be worth $60, but they damn well better give me something extra that I didn't get when I was spending $10-20 less.
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05-22-2005, 05:11 AM | #3 |
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I don't think graphical/physics advancements alone are worth the price increase. If the next generation of games really introduces radically new gameplay or design concepts, different methods of control (still waiting on that revolutionary thing about Revolution) and a much more advanced AI, then maybe. Otherwise, no way. But I rarely buy games at full price anyway, so it doesn't bother me that much.
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05-22-2005, 06:17 AM | #4 |
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With all the prices going up, I'm debating whether or not I should even get a next-generation console. The main reason I would even want one would just be for Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid anyway.
I understand that the technology required to make this stuff is getting more expensive. But if you ask me, they should just slow down and stick with what they've already got until they can make those more technologically advanced games for less money. Video games cost too much as it is. And their target audience isn't exactly the wealthiest group of people in the world. I suspect the console gaming market will be losing quite a few customers in the next generation. mag |
05-22-2005, 07:08 AM | #5 |
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Looking at what developers make per unit on current gen games I'm inclined to believe most of that 10 will be in the publishers and retailers pocket.
But having said that, its natural for them to try and charge more for a higher quality product. That's market forces. Whether it succeeds or not depends on how much the average consumer is willing to pay. Its just unfortunate that the people who're making the higher quality product are most likely to receive the criticism for (along with the expectations created by) the price hike will see the least of that extra 10. |
05-22-2005, 03:38 PM | #6 |
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I am curious if this means that PC games will also be going up in price. If the Xbox 360 version of Unreal Tournament is $60, will the PC version be the same price?
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05-22-2005, 04:27 PM | #7 |
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Everything will go up in price, I suppose.
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05-27-2005, 03:40 AM | #11 |
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I seem to recall some of the first computer games costing $90 or so... I could be wrong, but I think that it was mainly due to the number of floppy disks used to put these games out (since they were done by small, independent publishers at the time).
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05-27-2005, 09:16 AM | #14 |
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Well since PC gaming has proven to be very resilient, let's not start writing its eulogy yet. Soon, perhaps even the generation after the xbox 360, the line between pc gaming and console gaming may thin to the point that the pc platform is unnecessary due to the similarities between the console and PC. We aren't there yet and many, if not most of the major pc advances tend to come about through the PC GAMING industry, so I think we are safe for a while. If you recall, the last few E3s were more about the PC, i.e. Half-Life 2 and Doom3 than what meager offerings the consoles had.
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05-28-2005, 08:12 PM | #15 |
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There's no way in hell a game is worth $60. I don't see how they're even worth $50. They're just getting dern greedy. I'll just wait till those bastard games hit the bargin bin. |
05-28-2005, 08:55 PM | #16 |
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To date, I have only bought two games at $50: Guild Wars (because I REALLY wanted it, and I got a lot of cash for my birthday), and Deus Ex: Invisible War (because I loved Deus Ex). The rest of the time, I either rent (I can beat most games in a week, sadly), or wait until the price goes down (about $20 if it's good, $30 if it's really good). Most games just aren't worth their original retail price.
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05-29-2005, 12:23 PM | #17 |
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I dunno about you guys, but I will DEFINITELY be THAT MUCH MORE demanding and picky now that the price is going up. It's the only thing I can afford to do as a smart consumer primarily because I'm poor. But you all - everyone, really - have to be like I am because it's ultimately the only way we all can let developers and publishers know that we're not stupid and just buy whatever shit they put out. You could have the most beautiful, cutting edge graphics, but if the good quality game isn't there it's simply not worth spending the money. Period.
Of course, you're gonna have a crapload of those naive customers buying the games, no matter what quality or price. Those are the same people who bought The Matrix game just 'cause it tied into the movie and they assumed it would be an awesome game. We need less people like them and more people who can be truly educated and savvy consumers.
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06-01-2005, 12:20 AM | #18 |
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Why do so many people say PC gaming is dying? It will never die!
Frankly the next generation of consoles worries me, I have bought a full priced console game in ages, I usually buy them used (Ebay of used game store), or get them at the budget bin... Pyschonauts was the only console game of this year I would have payed full price to get the console version, but since I have the PC version, I don't really think I'll buy it anymore... GBA and DS games are different, they cost as much (or as little) and new PC game... 60$ is about 70€ or more, I could buy a console for 100€ dammit! The more I think of it the less I want to buy a PS3 or XBox 360, I'll probably get the Nintendo Revolution out of loyalty to Nintendo, but that's it... For that price a game must be not only a killer app, but a LEGENDARY killer app... And I'd still wait for it's price to lower anyway... But still if people are willing to spend a fortune on the PSP and pay 50€ for a game, they pay 70€ for a PS3 game...
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06-01-2005, 08:33 AM | #19 |
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As far as games for next gen, I will do what I have done for this gen... wait a little. I have noticed that if a game is more than a few months old, it drops so much in price. I will also revert to PC gaming when the game is multi-format because it is typically running for $20 less. I will also start renting more often. I will only buy a game at full price if I really like the developer and want to support them.
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They are all greedy!!! I am not going to buy a New Gen game anytime soon....
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