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All the PoP-games have been violent, and none of them have anything to do in a list of reccommended games for people seeking non-violent games. But as the people who made these lists haven't got a clue and didn't bother to test the games properly (if at all), both lists are completely worthless anyway. |
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12-02-2004, 01:37 PM | #22 | |
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As for the Kombat/Combat thing are we seriously criticising someone for accidentally typing a real word instead of one a games company made up? Give me a break. Like none of us have ever made a typo. But the errors on the "Non-Violent" list are less forgivable. If you're going to promote something you should ALWAYS check that your claims are valid. The real question is just how large a group of people we're talking about here. Is it just 5 people who've come up with Society names or half the world? I suspect it's just a vociferous minority but if it's a larger movement maybe we need to think about doing more to defend our hobby against them.
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12-02-2004, 03:48 PM | #23 |
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I can't believe they put Shadow Hearts on the list. It is an RPG! As we all know, us RPG nerds stuck in our parents basements are planning to pull school shootings because we played a game with a big breasted girly on the cover that emphasizes story above all else...
Stories are bad, mmmkay?
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But what these people are doing is to make a list of ten games that are more violent than the rest of the games out there, and saying that one game is more violent than another game. The only way to make such a list is to do a lot of research, not only on the games on the list, but also on the games off it - as that's the only way to determine which games are more violent than the rest. If they haven't played the game, how can they claim that Halo 2 is worse than Far Cry or Painkiller. How can they say Gunslinger Girls is worse than Bloodrayne 2? Or that Shadow Heart is worse than Vampire? It's okay to think that a game is violent, but as soon as you start saying it's more violent than another, you'd better have some proof. Quote:
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So it's pretty impossible to get away from the fact that these are supposed to be the games that the group(s) behind this list think are the worst violent games around right now. And then, it all falls apart as while some of these games clearly are some of the most violent games released lately, there are other well-known games that are far more violent than certain other games on the list (Painkiller is quite a bit worse than Halo 2, for instance). And one game isn't available in the west. And one isn't available anywhere, because it hasn't even been released. Quote:
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I think they may be picking the games they are because they're looking at the violent games that they also see as being extremely POPULAR. That would justify Halo 2's inclusion, as well as Doom 3 and Half-Life 2, while having some reason for leaving out Painkiller and Far Cry.
Although the inclusion of Gunslinger Girls blows that theory out of the water and possibly into orbit, so really I have no idea what's going through these wacked-out minds.
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News Headline : Gamer Forum reveals more depravity than even we suspected!! Remember, part of the reason groups like these gain power is by making sensationalist claims like these with enough verifiable truth (the games in the list ARE voilent) to convert more people to their cause. I think what we need to concentrate on is the other side of their story. The 10 "Non-Violent" games. We've already had many comments showing how flawed the list is as it stands. What say we compile our own list of commercially available non-violent games? We can then challenge their idea of non-violence and show how easy a proper list of this sort is to compile. In fact, I think I'll go start a thread for this now.
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