Japanese Horror games

Henke · 07-01-2009, 03:18 PM

"Project Zero/Fatal Frame" or "Forbidden Siren/Siren" what games in the two series are the best?

Based on what I've read it seems that Project Zero is the most interesting of the two IMO. Anyone who played all games in both of the series and could give som professional advice?

marshal99 · 07-01-2009, 08:10 PM

Imo , I would say the Fatal Frame series.
A drama queen playing fatal frame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjgc59wionw

Terramax · 07-01-2009, 09:19 PM

Project Zero/ Fatal frame. Forbidden Siren is an awkward game in so many ways that it only works for the most perserverant of gamers.

Veovis · 07-02-2009, 05:37 AM

The three Fatal Frame/Project Zero games that have been released outside Japan are superb. I think the second one is a little better than the other two though.

Forbidden Siren is incredibly hard and trying on the players patience. But quite a few hard core survival/horror gamers hold it as one of the best games ever. I only managed to get a couple of hours into it, but intend to try it again sometime. Haven't tried Forbidden Siren 2 or Blood Curse.

nomadsoul · 07-02-2009, 06:25 AM

Fatalframe 3 is best of series, it has better story, and better progression, and way more creative scares.The best part was your own home, that keeps on transforming after each dream, you explore your house to get new revelations and well more shocking(sometimes subtle) unexpected scenes.

The whole series though is repetitive, if you have one choice buy FF3.

Siren is for those with patience , so avoid it, however Siren on ps3 is very streamlined, to suit casuals, and westerners, since it include foreigners too in storyline.
The graphics and artdirection is more beeter, it got good ratings, 9 form eurogamer, better than silenthill5 and first 2 fatlaframes, as a game you must play it let alone horror.
So FF3 first and then Siren ps3.
There is another game called Hauntingground for PS2 by Capcom, its psychological horror with disturbing suggestive themes, gameplay similar to clock tower, highly recommended to all advenrture/horror lovers.

Terramax · 07-05-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nomadsoul

There is another game called Hauntingground for PS2 by Capcom, its psychological horror with disturbing suggestive themes, gameplay similar to clock tower, highly recommended to all advenrture/horror lovers.

Or Demento as it's called in certain parts of the world.

did you know Haunting Ground was originally to be Clocktower 4? But the story was so radically different they changed its name.

Anyway, Haunting Ground is strictly for perverts... which is why I once owned a copy

It's not really a scary game though... just disturbing in a perverted way.

Clock Tower 3 has its moments though.

Intrepid Homoludens · 07-05-2009, 05:14 PM

Fatal Frame 2 Crawling Ghost scares | YouTube

Scariest room ever!!! (Fatal Frame) | YouTube

Mind you, these are two grown young men playing, and they scream like little girls. Guess the game's that good, eh?

(NSFW due to lots of swearing)

kadji-kun · 07-05-2009, 05:29 PM

I always thought Fatal Frame had a solid system for horror gaming. Its just really creepy looking through a camera and seeing such things that you usually don't see with your own sight. Reminds me of using the night vision on my camera, just to see where I am going, and seeing something move past it. Its freaking creepy.

Its on a league of its own.

Intrepid Homoludens · 07-05-2009, 06:15 PM

Mannequins and first person view! | Condemned: Criminal Origins

Not a Japanese horror game, but still...

Storeroom (with the mirror) | Silent Hill 3

Poor Heather stayed too long in there.

Toops144 · 07-05-2009, 06:25 PM

Indeed I bought Forbidden Siren when it first came out in the UK but found it incredibly difficult. Having to change perspective to that of the enemies was time consuming and my tolerance didn't last very long (even though usually nothing will daunt me).

Project Zero/Fatal Frame on the other hand is indeed a very accessible horror game and the idea of taking camera shots of ghosts is sure to pull in the players - even if I was bad at waiting at the last minute til the cursor turned red to do most damage xD

nomadsoul · 07-06-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Terramax

Or Demento as it's called in certain parts of the world.

did you know Haunting Ground was originally to be Clocktower 4? But the story was so radically different they changed its name.

Anyway, Haunting Ground is strictly for perverts... which is why I once owned a copy

It's not really a scary game though... just disturbing in a perverted way.

Clock Tower 3 has its moments though.

YEah demento was Japanese name, loved sexual undertones, heck the whole womb concept and how everyone(boss) leeches at you for same purpose, the maid is surely creepy when she breaks glass with her head...loved overall aesthetics and dog game mechanic, plus puzzles were really refreshing,custscens were really welldone, deathscenes, and music overall i loved this series than CT. I want sequel badly , i always imagine sequel on capcom's Framework engine, hope if they make it they dont make it casual and user friendly.

CT1 was tight on PS1 but rest were budget titles.

marshal99 · 07-06-2009, 05:23 AM

Not Japanese but Obscure is pretty decent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5IpW1WSMoY

For something different , you can always try Michigan : Report from hell where you play a camera man. The game is certainly different from anything else out there for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXmvCm81kww

Which other game can have you sneaking up on your soundman in the shower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmMWv25o-Pk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terramax

Anyway, Haunting Ground is strictly for perverts... which is why I once owned a copy

It's not really a scary game though... just disturbing in a perverted way.

If you think Haunting ground is strictly for perverts , what do you think of Michigan then ?!

nomadsoul · 07-06-2009, 07:22 AM

Michigan wasn't horror it was funny, suda take on horror are always flop, however obscure 2 was ACE.

DustyShinigami · 07-06-2009, 10:18 AM

Hmmm... the Project Zero/Fatal Frame's look interesting. I'll have to check those out at some point.

MikeLXXXVIII · 07-13-2009, 05:43 AM

Unfortunately I have just tried Resident Evil and Silent Hill. But been looking into trying Fatal Frame/Project Zero series, so nice to hear that the third game is the best. I used to find it dirt cheap but it probably is hard to find now.

Haunted Ground I have been tempted to buy due to the panic and dog mechanics. Not too fond of the thought of hiding away from monsters but I bet its brilliant

.

What did you guys think of the Gregory Horror Show game? *it has a unique style*
I also used to find it dirt cheap and never understood how the game played (or how the reception would fit my taste) even when knowing about the game beyond its release date in the past.

marshal99 · 07-13-2009, 07:52 AM

There are no "monsters" in haunting ground , just a bunch of psychopaths , once you managed to get pass one , you will get to face another. A lot of running around since you are a petite little girl and siccing the dog on whoever is chasing you to slow them down and then hiding away until the danger pass. Poor hewie the dog , always get abused and mistreated.
Never did finished this , have to find a time to play this again and finish it.

The suffering , though not japanese, had a good atmosphere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV7DB5atwwM

Rule of Rose (unfortunately , i never played the game but it's supposed to be psychological horror like haunting ground ? The cutscenes looks very similar to those of haunting ground)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_No0dapPY

There's also Kuon , set in japanese period times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRnHi1w3mQw

Of course , if you understand Japanese , you can go for the fmv game "The Fear"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Qob-DIYlQ

nomadsoul · 07-17-2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshal99

There are no "monsters" in haunting ground , just a bunch of psychopaths , once you managed to get pass one , you will get to face another. A lot of running around since you are a petite little girl and siccing the dog on whoever is chasing you to slow them down and then hiding away until the danger pass. Poor hewie the dog , always get abused and mistreated.
Never did finished this , have to find a time to play this again and finish it.

The suffering , though not japanese, had a good atmosphere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV7DB5atwwM

Rule of Rose (unfortunately , i never played the game but it's supposed to be psychological horror like haunting ground ? The cutscenes looks very similar to those of haunting ground)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_No0dapPY

There's also Kuon , set in japanese period times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRnHi1w3mQw

Of course , if you understand Japanese , you can go for the fmv game "The Fear"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Qob-DIYlQ

Suffering is ace, tight storytelling, creative monster designs, mulitple endings and nice VAs, the sequel is not bad though but renders part 1 useless.

Ruleofrose is full of sexual, lesbian, underage disturbing S&M undertones, but classic story and beautifully told, work of art but extremely broken gameplay.

kuon is so so, gameplay is broken with disturbing atmosphere, not recommended for first play, only if you are finished with other horrors.

kadji-kun · 07-17-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nomadsoul

Suffering is ace, tight storytelling, creative monster designs, mulitple endings and nice VAs, the sequel is not bad though but renders part 1 useless.

Yeah, the Suffering is quite a unique game, from story to game play. I wouldn't have thought it would scare me, but it did just that and creeped the hell out of me. An interesting concept.

Part 2 was great, but it did involve some of the story from the first game from what I remember, so it only renders the first game useless to a degree. Definitely recommended.

Trickless · 07-18-2009, 01:24 PM

I've not played it, but Clock Tower for the SNES isn't a game I would play with the lights off lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sKYxHiudCQ

marshal99 · 07-18-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trickless

I've not played it, but Clock Tower for the SNES isn't a game I would play with the lights off lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sKYxHiudCQ

Well , if you like the clock tower series , there's the more updated clock tower 3 for PS2 (Clock tower 1 & 2 had came out for PS1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ5LFmWgAg4

07-01-2009, 03:18 PM	#1
Henke Headbanger Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The North Posts: 2,233	Japanese Horror games "Project Zero/Fatal Frame" or "Forbidden Siren/Siren" what games in the two series are the best? Based on what I've read it seems that Project Zero is the most interesting of the two IMO. Anyone who played all games in both of the series and could give som professional advice? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ NP: Botanicula, Catherine, Dear Esther, Okami

07-01-2009, 08:10 PM	#2
marshal99 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 228	Imo , I would say the Fatal Frame series. A drama queen playing fatal frame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjgc59wionw Share Share this post on Twitter

07-01-2009, 09:19 PM	#3
Terramax Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,595	Project Zero/ Fatal frame. Forbidden Siren is an awkward game in so many ways that it only works for the most perserverant of gamers. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-02-2009, 05:37 AM	#4
Veovis Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 106	The three Fatal Frame/Project Zero games that have been released outside Japan are superb. I think the second one is a little better than the other two though. Forbidden Siren is incredibly hard and trying on the players patience. But quite a few hard core survival/horror gamers hold it as one of the best games ever. I only managed to get a couple of hours into it, but intend to try it again sometime. Haven't tried Forbidden Siren 2 or Blood Curse. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-02-2009, 06:25 AM	#5
nomadsoul Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 331	Fatalframe 3 is best of series, it has better story, and better progression, and way more creative scares.The best part was your own home, that keeps on transforming after each dream, you explore your house to get new revelations and well more shocking(sometimes subtle) unexpected scenes. The whole series though is repetitive, if you have one choice buy FF3. Siren is for those with patience , so avoid it, however Siren on ps3 is very streamlined, to suit casuals, and westerners, since it include foreigners too in storyline. The graphics and artdirection is more beeter, it got good ratings, 9 form eurogamer, better than silenthill5 and first 2 fatlaframes, as a game you must play it let alone horror. So FF3 first and then Siren ps3. There is another game called Hauntingground for PS2 by Capcom, its psychological horror with disturbing suggestive themes, gameplay similar to clock tower, highly recommended to all advenrture/horror lovers. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-05-2009, 05:14 PM	#7
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	Fatal Frame 2 Crawling Ghost scares \| YouTube Scariest room ever!!! (Fatal Frame) \| YouTube Mind you, these are two grown young men playing, and they scream like little girls. Guess the game's that good, eh? (NSFW due to lots of swearing) Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

07-05-2009, 05:29 PM	#8
kadji-kun Banned User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 784	I always thought Fatal Frame had a solid system for horror gaming. Its just really creepy looking through a camera and seeing such things that you usually don't see with your own sight. Reminds me of using the night vision on my camera, just to see where I am going, and seeing something move past it. Its freaking creepy. Its on a league of its own. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-05-2009, 06:15 PM	#9
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	Mannequins and first person view! \| Condemned: Criminal Origins Not a Japanese horror game, but still... Storeroom (with the mirror) \| Silent Hill 3 Poor Heather stayed too long in there. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

07-05-2009, 06:25 PM	#10
Toops144 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Durham, UK Posts: 54	Indeed I bought Forbidden Siren when it first came out in the UK but found it incredibly difficult. Having to change perspective to that of the enemies was time consuming and my tolerance didn't last very long (even though usually nothing will daunt me). Project Zero/Fatal Frame on the other hand is indeed a very accessible horror game and the idea of taking camera shots of ghosts is sure to pull in the players - even if I was bad at waiting at the last minute til the cursor turned red to do most damage xD Share Share this post on Twitter

07-06-2009, 07:22 AM	#13
nomadsoul Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 331	Michigan wasn't horror it was funny, suda take on horror are always flop, however obscure 2 was ACE. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-06-2009, 10:18 AM	#14
DustyShinigami The Quiet One Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 1,986	Hmmm... the Project Zero/Fatal Frame's look interesting. I'll have to check those out at some point. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Now Playing: Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars - The Director's Cut (DS and iPhone), DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, Hotel Dusk: Room 215, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All, Silent Hill - HD Collection Recently Completed: Max Payne, Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne Next: Bayonetta, Devil May Cry - HD Collection, Max Payne 3, Metal Gear Solid - HD Collection, Silent Hill: Downpour

07-13-2009, 05:43 AM	#15
MikeLXXXVIII Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: By the Norse Fjords Posts: 348	Unfortunately I have just tried Resident Evil and Silent Hill. But been looking into trying Fatal Frame/Project Zero series, so nice to hear that the third game is the best. I used to find it dirt cheap but it probably is hard to find now. Haunted Ground I have been tempted to buy due to the panic and dog mechanics. Not too fond of the thought of hiding away from monsters but I bet its brilliant . What did you guys think of the Gregory Horror Show game? it has a unique style I also used to find it dirt cheap and never understood how the game played (or how the reception would fit my taste) even when knowing about the game beyond its release date in the past. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-13-2009, 07:52 AM	#16
marshal99 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 228	There are no "monsters" in haunting ground , just a bunch of psychopaths , once you managed to get pass one , you will get to face another. A lot of running around since you are a petite little girl and siccing the dog on whoever is chasing you to slow them down and then hiding away until the danger pass. Poor hewie the dog , always get abused and mistreated. Never did finished this , have to find a time to play this again and finish it. The suffering , though not japanese, had a good atmosphere. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV7DB5atwwM Rule of Rose (unfortunately , i never played the game but it's supposed to be psychological horror like haunting ground ? The cutscenes looks very similar to those of haunting ground) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_No0dapPY There's also Kuon , set in japanese period times. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRnHi1w3mQw Of course , if you understand Japanese , you can go for the fmv game "The Fear" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Qob-DIYlQ Share Share this post on Twitter

07-18-2009, 01:24 PM	#19
Trickless full of tricks Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 67	I've not played it, but Clock Tower for the SNES isn't a game I would play with the lights off lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sKYxHiudCQ Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Japan Adventure Attack!

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