04-10-2009, 03:58 PM | #81 |
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Freak Show isn't really a game. It's just slightly interactive media. Plus it requires you actually like listening to The Residents. Personally I've never cared for any of their stuff past Third Reich N Roll.. maybe Finger Prints.
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04-10-2009, 04:56 PM | #82 | |
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PS: No, that's not true. I've said it before, in the discussion about where to draw the solid black line in the grey area of multimedia experiences and games. So you got it in two. |
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04-10-2009, 07:50 PM | #83 | |
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So I also responded to Sam. It's a little rushed, but I appreciate comments. My thing is I do not see why people consider The Path to be art or even substantial enough to have minor recognition. I am not insulting your intelligence if you do nor am I attempting to attack you. I am simply stating why I do believe the opposite as articulately as possible.. with a little bit if humor to lighten the mood. Let me state again I do not think any one who liked this is a jerk I just question your motives. So if any one would like to explain in kind why they think The Path is art or a substantial game, and do it in a way is not purely insulting then I would love to read it and will post it on my blog unedited. We can debate like friends. I immensely enjoy debate as long as it productive. Let me stress two things: 1) I will take your argument on it's merit and its strengths and not our grammer or punctuation so let's lets keep it civil. 2) This is not a debate on gaming as art. It's about The Path and whether or not it is substantial on an intellectual level or other wise. So let's keep it focused. Send me a private message and I'll give you my email, and we can have productive debate. I would enjoy it.
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04-10-2009, 11:10 PM | #84 | |
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And what can I say, I like it. What I enjoy most is piecing together in as much detail as possible what I think happened to each girl. For example, I was just re-playing Ruby and got a new room in her Grandmother's house that made me think her wolf... Spoiler: Yes, that's a very concrete interpretation. No, I don't think it's the only one, right one, or intended one. I don't think you have to make up literal stories to enjoy The Path, but it's what I do. There may not be any real puzzles, but for me the story is a puzzle where I decide the rules. That's what I love about the game: it's kind of whatever you make of it. A mental sandbox that creates certain images in your head, then lets you connect the dots any way you like. Last edited by Snatcher42; 04-10-2009 at 11:16 PM. |
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PS: Why should anyone who likes The Path have their "motives questioned" by you? Last edited by Fien; 04-11-2009 at 04:36 AM. |
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And I agree that the mental sandbox idea may be what the developers were going for, but for me there was no reason to care. It's a series of lofty ideas left open for you to draw some greater conclusion. It's like a David Lynch film, with all the elements that make his films work, removed. Which is I stated that it all felt self consciously weird. It was an attempt to ape something, and after reading the interview with the developers I feel that even more now. Quote:
And why would any have their motives questioned? It's called feeling threatened by having their ideas challenged. I've seen a lot of examples of it on this forum, and on the internet. Sometimes when people like something and some one makes a contrary statement they feel it is a personal attack. This of course isn't just relegated to video games, but why should I have to even explain that? I am stating my intent isn't to say that I don't believe The Path is art there for you are stupid if you like the game, but draw in an open debate as to what makes The Path actually substantial, and not just a matter of personal preference.
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Speaking only for myself of course, I don't feel attacked or uncomfortable at all if you don't think The Path is enjoyable, interesting, good, art, whatever. Quote:
"All in all The Path feels like some stoned college kids attempting to ape a Bunuel film. It’s lazy, unpolished, and intellectually bankrupt. What’s more it’s strains the imagination to think that any one over the age of 15 who has read a book, been to the movies, or had a conversation with another human being could find it’s themes challenging." "It’s a depressingly soft-shelled waist that doesn’t work even on it’s own terms, and the only people who will take anything from it are those who are willing to indulge there own masturbatory sense of importance." |
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It seems pretty obvious that The Path is destined to be ignored, but something else like it will come along that will do the same thing only at a high level. At that point when those people who grew up with this idea of gaming as art sit up and take notice it's natural that the industry will gravitate towards that. What I was saying is that at some point video games may stop being about entertainment, and start being about pretension, and who wins in that? Video Games are about entertainment and that's not an opinion it's a fact. So what happens when they deny their core purpose? I've had this debate with people about everything from giant monster movies to porn. It's natural that people want to believe that they are engaging in something more. Of course if that does happen, which I believe may be inevitable, there's always the back lash. Same as Rocky and Star Wars were the backlash to the interminably depressing films of the early to mid 70's.
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"Bad Day On The Midway and The Dark Eye are the two I've played on your list, and both prove my point better than anything. Both of them were all style. Neither was thought provoking, and were as it might seem like intelligent fair for a video game that isn't saying much. A good story in a video game is relative to other video games." Non sequitur: were as --> whereas fair --> fare |
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04-13-2009, 07:34 PM | #92 | |
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Besides, their statement "will you want to stop the killer if you know about his tragic past" is just silly. Boy you do like to dog me, don't you?
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04-15-2009, 07:37 AM | #94 |
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Actually yes it does Sam. You the interesting thing about video games is that they don't require much of an intellectual investment so an understanding of the basic concept and a few hours of games play logged can give you a pretty decent idea of what the whole thing is about.
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As Fienepien has already said she isn't Sam
please stop referrring to her by that name.
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04-15-2009, 09:58 AM | #96 |
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I was just being affectionate, but all right.
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Hello everyone
Im new to the forum but i've been visiting this site for a while. Its like my sanctuary, i always come here to find new adventures to play Anyway I saw this thread and since i really liked the path i wanted to say something. First of all i believe this is not really a game. Its more like a story that you must unfold by making certain choices. Life can be just like that, our "good" choices may gets us where we don't want and there's no turning back. The path is a truly beautiful atmospheric journey between life and death, innocence and evilness and how easy is to forget that being lost can lasts forever. I think this "game" disappointed a lot of people because nothing is really explained to you, it just leaves you wondering what happened and why it happened the way it did. You come to your own conclusion about almost everything, especially the ending. Well i think i said enough about it, hope you guys dont hate me for liking it so much Love the forum its great |
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The Path is certainly an interesting work but one that won't appeal to everyone. it requires not just your own imagination but the right kind of imagination. plus a large part of the fun from it comes from discussing different interpretations
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Okay, time for a reply with a bunch of spoilers! This is my interpretation of the game and it's events.
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