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TiAgUh 07-23-2007 05:17 PM

Games Retrospective
 
A nice journey through the history of FF games ;)

Part I - FF 1 - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22250.html

Part II - FF 2 & 3 - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22650.html

Part III - FF 4 & 5 - next sunday :)

I always thought Moggles came first (then Chocobos). :P

TiAgUh 07-25-2007 12:46 PM

Metroid now:

Part I - the 1st (NES) and the gameboy (without color) one - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22771.html

Spiwak 07-26-2007 06:06 AM

Oh cool it's a series. Surprisingly informative videos.

Starflux 07-26-2007 08:25 AM

Yes, one of the better things to come out of Gametrailers. Infinitely preferable to their incredibly stale Top 10's, in any regard. I really liked the Zelda retrospectives as well!

Ninja Dodo 07-26-2007 11:48 AM

Screwattack is occasionally funny as well. I don't much care for Gamehead and GameOne is a load of autocue-reading toss, but you can only seem to filter by platform, not by show...

Starflux 07-26-2007 11:33 PM

Basically the only reason I visit Gametrailers is for the, well, trailers, and the Screwattack features. It stinks that I have to waddle through the piles of shit featuring Amanda McKay, who suffers from foot-in-mouth disease and is quite not believable as a gamer. Does anyone here feel represented by her?

TiAgUh 07-27-2007 01:34 AM

shes hot, thats enough for me :P

Starflux 07-27-2007 04:01 AM

No.

Ninja Dodo 07-27-2007 04:10 AM

I don't know, if 'being hot' is the only redeeming quality here, that purpose seems better served by watching porn. The amount of intelligent discourse is about the same.

TiAgUh 07-30-2007 02:54 AM

Final Fantasy Retro

Part III - 4 & 5 - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22905.html

TiAgUh 08-02-2007 01:12 AM

Metroid Part II:

Metroid (Snes) & GameBoy Color*: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23047.html

*Edit: Not Color, Advance. (Thanks Starflux)

Starflux 08-02-2007 07:27 AM

So awesome. Metroid Fusion is for the Gameboy Advance though, not Color.

TiAgUh 08-02-2007 07:44 AM

yeah sorry you're right ;). I played Fusion and it was kinda boring. It is the only Metroid I played so far :crazy:

Starflux 08-02-2007 11:22 PM

Ooh and you took one of the 'lesser' games in the pantheon. Less between quotations marks because it's still probably stellar. But try out Zero Mission for the same system, the Primes or Super Metroid. They're games capable of blowing you to smithereens.

TiAgUh 08-06-2007 02:28 AM

Final Fantasy Retro

Part IV - Final Fantasy 6 - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23185.html

Now this game was awesome! I played it when i was very young and at the time, it seemed endless :D

Kefka was cool :P. The opera scene and the one with Shadow fighting the ghosts (haunted train) were memorable. Its the only FF, besides VII, that i really liked.
Your opinion? ;)

MdaG 08-06-2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiAgUh (Post 432805)
Final Fantasy Retro

Part IV - Final Fantasy 6 - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23185.html

Now this game was awesome! I played it when i was very young and at the time, it seemed endless :D

Kefka was cool :P. The opera scene and the one with Shadow fighting the ghosts (haunted train) are memorable. Its the only FF, besides VII, that i really liked.
Your opinion? ;)

Reminds me of Zelda 3 for some reason...

TiAgUh 08-10-2007 04:34 AM

Metroid Retro

Part II - Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes [N64] - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23387.html?type=wmv

Looks cool, someday i will try Prime :)

TiAgUh 08-13-2007 03:59 AM

Final Fantasy Retro

Part V - Final Fantasy VII - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23449.html

A great game indeed :). Awesome story, characters and music ( they forgot to talk about the music :crazy: ). To many spinoffs imo...
I really prefer when the main character doesnt say a word, like Chrono Trigger or Breath of Fire, and VII was the last Final Fantasy that had that (cant remember if Zidane, from FF9, talks or not). The best character imo is Rufus, the president of Shinra (Turks' boss), the one who killed Weapon :P .

Your opinion? What do you think? :)

Starflux 08-13-2007 06:30 AM

Awesome story, nice characters and brilliant music indeed... too bad they forgot to put a good game in it too ;)

It certainly has its merits, but at the same time a lot of it never plays particularly well (especially the mini-games and all the stuff around the fighting is poorly done), and if ever there was an overhyped game it's this. Perhaps it deserved it stature back when it came out, but it's a game that has aged spectacularly poorly, both graphically and gameplay-wise.

TiAgUh 08-13-2007 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starflux (Post 434121)
(especially the mini-games and all the stuff around the fighting is poorly done)

Really? The motorbike mini-game is still enjoyable imo ( but i'll give ya that :) ) ... the stuff around the fighting? what do u mean? the materia, the summons.. what?

Quote:

(...) aged spectacularly poorly, both graphically and gameplay-wise.
Well, I played this game when i 1st got a PS2 .. and .. well .. you know my opinion ;) , this is the only game (besides Secret of Monkey Island) that i feel tempted to play again (and i hate the ideia of replaying a game btw).

Quote:

(...) and if ever there was an overhyped game it's this (...)
More than Halo? :P

MdaG 08-13-2007 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starflux (Post 434121)
Awesome story, nice characters and brilliant music indeed... too bad they forgot to put a good game in it too ;)

I totally agree, it's a shame that one needs to suffer through the game play to be able to enjoy the story line and music :P . Just kidding, it's not THAT bad. :)

Starflux 08-14-2007 01:10 AM

Well, ok, I'll give you that Halo's pretty overhyped too. But FF7 has brought about more of a cultural impact, what with the whole opening of the Japanese market it seems...

Regardless, it's an epic game of course, but I mean indeed the minigames surrounding it that are awful, the controls are clunky and slow and the animations show their age and low production values. Most of all I find it so appalling that everyone gets so soaked about
Spoiler:
Aeris' death,
as if it were the most beautiful and important thing ever. Whereas when I played the game I thought it had little emotional impact (maybe also because I was rooting for Tifa?), and all the game newbies who entered the world of gaming obviously didn't know that there had been lots of meaningful deaths in games way before FF7. Deaths that did a lot better job of tearing me up because the story wasn't told in a rather disjointed, piecemeal way.

Spoiler:
Take for instance Westwood's Blade Runner. When Clovis dies at the end in a sickly bed reciting poetry, THEN I had to sniffle a bit. Not at some audio-less video where low-poly Sephiroth cleaves low-poly Aeris in slowmotion with a big samurai sword.

TiAgUh 08-14-2007 06:07 AM

Halo, God of War, Half Life.. :P

Well,
Spoiler:
Aeris' death
was something kinda new for many players cause the only Final Fantasy game that a main character died never came out of Japan until few years ago. Not everyone gets soaked (like me) it was just an unexpected twist\moment (I too was rooting for Tifa :D ).
I played many RPG's, and imo FF VII (controls) are the same as any other RPG from PSX era or even Super NES.

And if I remember well, the only main character that died in a RPG before VII was

Spoiler:
In Chrono Trigger (Super NES) when Chrono was killed by.. i think his name was Lavus :crazy: idk .. (he was resurrected or something like that lated on anyway :P )

Spiwak 08-14-2007 06:14 AM

I thought one of the FF retrospectives specifically mentioned one of the main characters dying, even noting it as a FF death that came before VII. I don't remember which one it was, maybe IV?

Anyways, FFVII was one of the first games I played that left a big impact. I tend to think a little less of Japanese RPGs (never liked random encounters, especially), but FFVII will always have a place in my gamer heart.

And I didn't really care about
Spoiler:
Aeris's death,
either. I always liked Tifa more.

TiAgUh 08-14-2007 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiwak (Post 434256)
I thought one of the FF retrospectives specifically mentioned one of the main characters dying, even noting it as a FF death that came before VII. I don't remember which one it was, maybe IV?

Its was V and it was only released outside Japan as Final Fantasy Anthropology in 1999.. VII was released in 1997. :)

Spiwak 08-14-2007 11:04 AM

Whatever. As a side note, as a result of these videos I've started Metroid Zero Mission and am surprisingly into it. My first Metroid game.

TiAgUh 08-14-2007 01:37 PM

ok, why is Dale Baldwin putting her death with a spoiler tag?
Final Fantasy VII Retro video talks about it ...

Dale Baldwin 08-14-2007 01:45 PM

You're assuming people reading this thread have watched that video. It is a spoiler, and should be tagged as such (given I'm playing FFVII on and off at the moment, I was unaware of that particular spoiler until today).

TiAgUh 08-14-2007 01:48 PM

But this thread is about the videos ..

oh well, it wont happen again :)

dantebk 08-16-2007 06:01 PM

The retrospectives at GameTrailers are awesome. If you haven't watched the Zelda retrospective, I highly recommend it. When I watched it, I'd never played a Zelda game since the first NES one, and afterwards I ended up buying Twilight Princess for the Wii and loving it.

TiAgUh 08-18-2007 05:39 AM

Metroid Retro

Part III - DS and Wii - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23700.html

Spiwak 08-18-2007 01:38 PM

Finished up Metroid Zero Mission and have started Hunters. Loved Zero Mission.

I want to get a Wii so bad.

Starflux 08-20-2007 11:37 PM

Zero Mission is great! Don't know about Hunter though. I think it's a pretty different game.

Spiwak 08-21-2007 05:38 AM

Yea it's alright, but definitely more shooter than anything else. I've started Fusion and am definitely more enthralled with that game. I mean wow, it's definitely the most atmospheric side-scroller I've ever played. Love the music.

TiAgUh 08-21-2007 01:46 PM

Final Fantasy Retro:

Part VI - VIII & IX - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23726.html

Never played VIII cause i dont like love stories..
IX sucked big time imo, the only god thing about it was the awesome card game. :P

Starflux 08-22-2007 09:00 AM

Seriously? I thought 9 was the most charming and charmingly designed of all Final Fantasy games. Graphicwise the most appealing in any case. Far preferable to the more modern realistic style of 10-12.

Spiwak 08-22-2007 09:18 AM

I liked both, actually. Granted I only played them when they first came out back when I was rather small. But the love story in VIII captured me as did the charm of IX. Plus I really liked both female protagonists (personality-wise). I always remember the stories more than the game play with these games.

TiAgUh 08-22-2007 11:17 AM

Come on! IX looks like it was made for kids.
And the story was nowhere near VI, VII or X..

Starflux 08-22-2007 11:24 PM

And Psychonauts is obviously a kid game too? And Happy Tree Friends, ooh the colourful design, it must be a kid series?

Sarcasm aside, I like the style and I resent your narrow view that it must be for children just because it's cute and charming. Just go play Gears of War already and rub shoulders with sweaty bulky He-men ;)

JemyM 08-22-2007 11:54 PM

IX is probably my favorite yet after playing FFVII-FFX-2. I believe it's the game that have the most developed main characters, the best music, and some of the best minigames (although I completely skipped the cardgame in IX, the one in VIII was so much more fun and rewarding to play). The game mechanics are also the best except for XII. I do not see at all why you would have to be a kid to enjoy it. Im 30 and FFIX made me both laugh and cry all the time.

So far I believe VIII have the most rewarding story, it's only weakness is the draw/junction system. While it was great for it's time, the only advantage VII have over the rest of the series for me is the large character gallery and how well it managed to expand the story for most of them including the villians. It is a great game, but the rest of the series have qualities that do pass part VII. X & X-2 are excellent FF games, just not as great as the rest.


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