RPG Alignment

MdaG · 03-19-2007, 02:20 PM

What alignment do you usually play (first, if you try all the approaches)? I've played the following RPG's where a choice was given:

Baldur's Gate *Good*
Baldur's Gate 2 *Good*
Fallout *Good*
Fallout 2 *Good*
Torment *Good*
Knights of the Old Republic *Evil then Good*
Knights of the old republic 2 *Evil*
Jade Empire *Good*
Oblivion *Good*
Daggerfall *Good*
Temple of Elemental Evil *Neutral*

Of all these only KOTOR 1 & 2 made me play as evil. The others just didn't feel rewarding enough to take on the evil route. I'm going on Fable - Lost chapters now and I think I'm going to give the evil route a try :-)

Intrepid Homoludens · 03-19-2007, 02:23 PM

I'm tragically, terminally good.

However, maintaining that goodness may necessitate a few evil thingies which keep me from truly achieving a sickeningly sweet and frothy candy coloured halo. Can't wait for Mass Effect.

Jeysie · 03-19-2007, 02:43 PM

In CRPGs: Good, generally. I find I usually can't bring myself to be a slimeball unless I'm in "see everything in the game" mode.

In Table-top RPGs: We're not allowed to play Evil characters (not so far, anyway), so... *counts*

IIRC, I have/had:

2 Chaotic Good characters
3 Neutral Good characters
1 Chaotic Neutral/Good character
1 Lawful Neutral/Good character
1 Chaotic Neutral character

Phew, I have way too many characters.

Peace & Luv, Liz

RLacey · 03-19-2007, 02:53 PM

I have a guilt complex, and so almost always play good characters.

That said, I'm playing an evil character in Neverwinter Nights 2, and Fable is a blast when you're evil.

PhoenixWrong · 03-19-2007, 03:02 PM

I usually enjoy playing Chaotic Good characters when given the choice.

samIamsad · 03-19-2007, 03:05 PM

They call me Dr. Evil.

Gosh, thinking about it, this is terribly black and white (and so are most games.) Stereotypes. Stereotypical thinking. Good. Evil. Bah.

Kotor is reaaaaally like that for the most part. Particularly every action that's supposed to represent an opportunity to push your evil-o-meter a little further towards "GOD I'M SATAN INCARNATE!" is so blatantly obvious it's oh, well. Still, overall it's black&white at its most fun. Peter Molyneux, pay heed.

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I usually enjoy playing Chaotic Good characters when given the choice.

I eat babies for breakfast. Top that!

Intrepid Homoludens · 03-19-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by samsie

I eat babies for breakfast. Top that!

I eat Pro-Lifers and anti-stem cell research advocates for breakfast.

Catbert · 03-19-2007, 03:20 PM

Always good.

Intrepid Homoludens · 03-19-2007, 03:24 PM

(((((Catbert)))))

[toj.cc]Phantom · 03-19-2007, 03:28 PM

I like the chaotic good alignment if I can pick it or something close to it, but if I can't then I stick with good on the first play through then evil on the next.

Intrepid Homoludens · 03-19-2007, 03:33 PM

I'm hoping that the alignment system in Mass Effect will be as ambivalent and nuanced as Bioware claims it to be. I want to be truly challenged whenever I need to make decisions.

KOTOR II seemed to play around with this notion but never seriously pushed it as far as it could go. Kreia was excellent in challenging you to second guess your actions and the story did a good job making you question her motives throughout.

CrimsonBlue · 03-19-2007, 03:46 PM

I'm always good. I'm too much into the role to be anything else but myself. And I'm good. Oh, yes I am.

samIamsad · 03-19-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trep

KOTOR II seemed to play around with this notion but never seriously pushed it as far as it could go. Kreia was excellent in challenging you to second guess your actions and the story did a good job making you question her motives throughout.

Well, in all fairness, and I should have really added this: The portrayal of GOOD™ and EVIL® in Kotor was pretty darn close to the source material.

Need to play the sequel one day...

Catbert · 03-19-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

(((((Catbert)))))

You eat pro-lifers too? That is the definition of good, ridding the world of those evil *$#%s.

Intrepid Homoludens · 03-19-2007, 03:56 PM

Yeah. Unfortunately they don't taste very good, the meat's a little tight, especially their assmeat. Still, I must act out my obligation to do good.

Catbert · 03-19-2007, 03:58 PM

Jeysie · 03-19-2007, 04:20 PM

Phantom:

I rather like this one:

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Peace & Luv, Liz

Intrepid Homoludens · 03-19-2007, 04:30 PM

This is mine...

TangentBlack · 03-19-2007, 06:06 PM

Some of those RPG's originally listed in this thread don't even have what KOTOR tried to offer, so pretending like there were choices in some of them is just pointless. At least KOTOR had moral choices, albeit generally stark, contrasting ones. Like sam said, it's black and white at its most fun.

Kreia, despite alot of hate directed towards her character, added quite a bit of depth to the game. She had some brilliant dialogue written for her character that was as clever as it was thought-provoking. She almost made me change my alignment....

[toj.cc]Phantom · 03-19-2007, 06:43 PM

Both good ones!

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03-19-2007, 02:20 PM	#1
MdaG Master of time and space Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sverige Posts: 1,480	RPG Alignment What alignment do you usually play (first, if you try all the approaches)? I've played the following RPG's where a choice was given: Baldur's Gate Good Baldur's Gate 2 Good Fallout Good Fallout 2 Good Torment Good Knights of the Old Republic Evil then Good Knights of the old republic 2 Evil Jade Empire Good Oblivion Good Daggerfall Good Temple of Elemental Evil Neutral Of all these only KOTOR 1 & 2 made me play as evil. The others just didn't feel rewarding enough to take on the evil route. I'm going on Fable - Lost chapters now and I think I'm going to give the evil route a try :-) Share Share this post on Twitter

03-19-2007, 02:23 PM	#2
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	I'm tragically, terminally good. However, maintaining that goodness may necessitate a few evil thingies which keep me from truly achieving a sickeningly sweet and frothy candy coloured halo. Can't wait for Mass Effect. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

03-19-2007, 02:43 PM	#3
Jeysie Diva of Death Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 1,402	In CRPGs: Good, generally. I find I usually can't bring myself to be a slimeball unless I'm in "see everything in the game" mode. In Table-top RPGs: We're not allowed to play Evil characters (not so far, anyway), so... counts IIRC, I have/had: 2 Chaotic Good characters 3 Neutral Good characters 1 Chaotic Neutral/Good character 1 Lawful Neutral/Good character 1 Chaotic Neutral character Phew, I have way too many characters. Peace & Luv, Liz Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Adventures in Roleplaying (Nov. 19): "Maybe it's still in the Elemental Plane of Candy." "Is the Elemental Plane of Candy anything like Willy Wonka's factory?" "If it is, would that mean Oompa Loompas are Candy Elementals?" "Actually, I'm thinking more like the Candyland board game. But, I like this idea better." "I like the idea of Oompa Loompa Elementals."

03-19-2007, 02:53 PM	#4
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	I have a guilt complex, and so almost always play good characters. That said, I'm playing an evil character in Neverwinter Nights 2, and Fable is a blast when you're evil. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

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PhoenixWrong Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 75	I usually enjoy playing Chaotic Good characters when given the choice. Share Share this post on Twitter

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Catbert DAVE Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,326	Always good. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ IS THAT DAVE?

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Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	(((((Catbert))))) Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

03-19-2007, 03:28 PM	#10
[toj.cc]Phantom The Punisher Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Pleasant Plain, Ohio Posts: 771	I like the chaotic good alignment if I can pick it or something close to it, but if I can't then I stick with good on the first play through then evil on the next. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ I've got a bad rap as a senseless killer. Let me point out that I am a very sensible killer.

03-19-2007, 03:33 PM	#11
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	I'm hoping that the alignment system in Mass Effect will be as ambivalent and nuanced as Bioware claims it to be. I want to be truly challenged whenever I need to make decisions. KOTOR II seemed to play around with this notion but never seriously pushed it as far as it could go. Kreia was excellent in challenging you to second guess your actions and the story did a good job making you question her motives throughout. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

03-19-2007, 03:46 PM	#12
CrimsonBlue Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,167	I'm always good. I'm too much into the role to be anything else but myself. And I'm good. Oh, yes I am. Share Share this post on Twitter

03-19-2007, 03:56 PM	#15
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	Yeah. Unfortunately they don't taste very good, the meat's a little tight, especially their assmeat. Still, I must act out my obligation to do good. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

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Jeysie Diva of Death Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 1,402	Phantom: I rather like this one: Peace & Luv, Liz Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Adventures in Roleplaying (Nov. 19): "Maybe it's still in the Elemental Plane of Candy." "Is the Elemental Plane of Candy anything like Willy Wonka's factory?" "If it is, would that mean Oompa Loompas are Candy Elementals?" "Actually, I'm thinking more like the Candyland board game. But, I like this idea better." "I like the idea of Oompa Loompa Elementals."

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03-19-2007, 06:06 PM	#19
TangentBlack Vigilant Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 300	Some of those RPG's originally listed in this thread don't even have what KOTOR tried to offer, so pretending like there were choices in some of them is just pointless. At least KOTOR had moral choices, albeit generally stark, contrasting ones. Like sam said, it's black and white at its most fun. Kreia, despite alot of hate directed towards her character, added quite a bit of depth to the game. She had some brilliant dialogue written for her character that was as clever as it was thought-provoking. She almost made me change my alignment.... Share Share this post on Twitter

03-19-2007, 06:43 PM	#20
[toj.cc]Phantom The Punisher Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Pleasant Plain, Ohio Posts: 771	Both good ones! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ I've got a bad rap as a senseless killer. Let me point out that I am a very sensible killer.