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To broaden my comment on this from thread post # 19, I would say that people that else wouldn't be gamers were drawn into gaming by the release of Xbox 360, the PS2, and the Wii as well as the Nintendo DS (lite).
I think many people have a vision of a PC gamer as a nerd that sits in his dark room all night, playing hardcore PnP games on the computer. (this image is not true, but nonetheless this is the image the average media and person has of the typical pc player). The console games are probably made more accessible to the general public to catch gamers who else won't be gaming. It is thus an expansion of the gaming market overall, and not so much a decline in pc gaming, imo. |
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Microsoft are going to make it possible to play a game on xbox vs a PC user. |
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You are not quite right about that, I think it was just the marketing, nothing else. Saturn's hardware was far superior to Playstation's but Sega's poor marketing made it disapear quite fast (what a shame). |
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Btw, haven't video game consoles always been much more popular for playing games than home computers ever since Atari and then later Nintendo in Northern America? And how do things look like in your country now anyway? The PC was surely on top of the game in Germany, and it's still going strong, perhaps more so than in any other country. What about the rest of Europe? And Asia? They're really crazy about online gaming, MMORPGs and Blizzard games in particular it seems. At least in Korea and China. Just curious, cause local differences in gaming culture are always an interesting topic.
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That's kind of a dumb idea, though. Why would Microsoft threaten the market share of one of its very best products, namely the Xbox360?
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Who said that it was an idea of Microsoft, though? Or an idea approved by Microsoft? Just saying! Never heard about this, though. A couple of years from now emulators will do the trick.
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Well, unless someone is actually trying to do something like that, why even bring it up, even rhetorically, samsie? Let's keep it real.
Oh, and emulators represent a VERY tiny market, one that most hardware and software companies shouldn't worry much about. After all, how many soccer moms (and 30-something gamers, for that matter) actually know and even HAVE the time to make an emu?
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Up until the arrival of PlayStation there were hardly any consoles in Croatia, it was all about microcomputers, home computers and PCs. PC is still the king here, but consoles are closing in fast.
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the PC can do what the PC does best --- strategic thinking and that the Xbox 360 can do what it does best - action. It is, imo, the whole point of Vista and DX10 to have this inter-activitu between the PC and the Xbox. This means that a guy on the PC playing say Halo, GRAW 2, or Gears of War, with his buddies on the net can act like a commander or a general out in the (real) field, giving orders to the people who play the game on Xbox 360. I don't know if this will be a succes or not, though |
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I don't know about the rest of Asia, but in Japan people usually use consoles for playing games. |
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here in Norway it is a bit hard to say. In the stores, console games are taking over. Most shops that sells PC and console games spend less and less space in the shop for PC games. Last time I went in to a shop to buy a PC game, they had only one tiny shelf. Last time they had an entire wall(with the top 10 games). That was just back when I bought Dreamfall.
But it's still easy to find a lot of PC games, even though only the top sellers can be found in most stores. Online I find still plenty of PC games, from norwegian net shops. |
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I think I will always buy adventure games, though, even though I see a "dumbening down" of the audience there too. The adventure games get easier and easier with less story these days. But then again, the budgets they have to deal with gets slimer and slimer too. I also enjoy some RPG games. But some of the same dumbening down happens there. Like Oblivion, it was smaller than Morrowind(which I loved and still love), you could fast travel so people wouldn't get bored from walking or something like that, the cities looked more similar and the skills upgrading system was made even more automatic. Even though I've bought and played through Oblivion and ordered the expansion pack as well(hey, one has to support those who made great stuff in the past, and Oblivion is still a wonderful and beautifully made game, so it's well worth supporting), it was no morrowind. Also, I am an "old" PC gamer. I haven't owned a console since the nintendo 8-bit, so just the thought of playing a game on console makes my back shiver. I don't really like the control. I prefer sitting with a keyboard and a mouse instead when playing a game. In my head, a keyboard feels much more natural than a joystick or gamepad, since it's what I love and know. And last, to generalize a bit more. Most of the games released for consoles are a different style than what I like in a game. So yeah, I would probably have stoped playing games if I had to buy them on a console. Last edited by marsan; 03-15-2007 at 04:30 PM. |
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This is what I always say. It's like you would read my mind... You are right even with Oblivion. I liked Morrowing much more, it has even much better music. And Arena was the best of the series. I don't like playing console games much either, but I bought for example Dreamcast just because of Shenmue, Biohazard: Code Veronica and Soul Calibur. And Gamecube just because of Biohazard 1 and Soul Calibur 2 You don't see many adventure games for console. It is eiter some action game or some sport, I am sick of action games. And unfortunately, this happened also in PC industry. In couple of last years, all complanies make just shooters, where they don't have to think about any story. Story is usually about planet being destroyed by someone, so you have to go, shoot everyone in your way and save the planet by killing the boss. Only graphics and environment are different in each game. And what is really sad, that not many people like adventure games. If there is not enough blood in the game, they don't play it. |
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Total revenue across all platforms: 1.13 billion. Handheld: 190 million. Console: 652.6 million. PC: 473.4 million. So.. yeah, if you want to look at it like that, the PC is likely still the single most profitable platform to develop for in Germany. In theory. PS: To me it seems there are waaay too many games being made anyway. But that could very well just be me. Market demands and all.
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