[Melanie68]

I wonder what kind of impact this would have?

[RLacey]

It's an interesting idea, but doesn't it prevent dual layer discs and thus reduce storage for any of the individual formats?

I'm liking the idea of standard DVD support as well, mind you .

[undeaf]

Originally Posted by insane_cobra

Sony and Toshiba have a weird business relationship, fighting over HD video formats, cooperating on the Cell.

Kind of like microsoft and IBM, ms uses a powerpc cpu for the 360 even though IBM backs linux.

Few movie studios are planning to release films in both high-definition formats the majority are backing Blu-ray. Only three are backing HD-DVD.

Has the support always been leaning this way? With better support and with the PS3 strongarming it, it looks like blue ray has a very good chance. Maybe the support is like this because of the PS3.

[undeaf]

Another sketchy move by sony:

http://games.slashdot.org/games/06/09/23/2029222.shtml

[insane_cobra]

Oh, there's more than that.

And if that wasn't bad enough...

But take it with a grain of salt, maybe it was just a case of bad translation.

[artwking4]

I would never pay even a penny to play a demo, but that wouldn't stop me from buying a PS3 and buying/renting games for it. I'm also not a huge fan of micropayments either, but that didn't stop me from buying an Xbox 360.

[Dasilva]

Lol, pay 1buck for the demo and then they take it away after a few hours. Too funny.

[SoccerDude28]

Did they actually SAY they will charge for demos or are these internet rumors again? Internet message boards are as reliable as Fox news.

PS3 had some good news that everyone is glossing over, like HDMI will be part of the core system (a big thing if you are planning to watch Blu-ray on it), and that playing online is absolutely free (there will be microtransactions however like 360). Also a new Ninja Gaiden, for anyone who enjoyed the original, will be coming to the PS3.

Did anyone see the trailer from the game by Level 5 (guys behind it made Dragon Quest 8)? It looks pretty interesting. Also Lair is shaping up to be an awesome game, probably what Warhawk should have been. Warhawk's graphics look pretty crappy from the trailers they had.

My favorite game shown in TGS was not even a next-gen game but a current gen one. It is called God's hand from Clover Studios (Viewtiful Joe, Okami).

[undeaf]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

PS3 had some good news that everyone is glossing over, like HDMI will be part of the core system

Well, insane_cobra is insiting that that's completely irrelevant because movie studios would never dare to cut off non-HDMI customers.

[Dasilva]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

Did they actually SAY they will charge for demos or are these internet rumors again? Internet message boards are as reliable as Fox news.

PS3 had some good news that everyone is glossing over, like HDMI will be part of the core system (a big thing if you are planning to watch Blu-ray on it), and that playing online is absolutely free (there will be microtransactions however like 360). Also a new Ninja Gaiden, for anyone who enjoyed the original, will be coming to the PS3.

Did anyone see the trailer from the game by Level 5 (guys behind it made Dragon Quest 8)? It looks pretty interesting. Also Lair is shaping up to be an awesome game, probably what Warhawk should have been. Warhawk's graphics look pretty crappy from the trailers they had.

My favorite game shown in TGS was not even a next-gen game but a current gen one. It is called God's hand from Clover Studios (Viewtiful Joe, Okami).

Who said Ninja Gaiden Sigma was exclusive? I smell Assasins Creed all over again.

[insane_cobra]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

Did they actually SAY they will charge for demos or are these internet rumors again? Internet message boards are as reliable as Fox news.

Yep, Kutaragi said that during his keynote. Though it might've been a case of bad translation. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Did anyone see the trailer from the game by Level 5 (guys behind it made Dragon Quest 8)? It looks pretty interesting.

Yes it does, you can get the HD version of the video here.

Also Lair is shaping up to be an awesome game, probably what Warhawk should have been.

You know, that one I'm not so sure about. I was looking forward to Lair a lot, but that gameplay demonstration... The dragons look very nice and the enviroments look somewhat better than what I expected after seeing the still shots. However, dragon vs. dragon combat looks clumsy and the ground parts really bored me after a couple of minutes. I don't have high hopes for it anymore, but who knows.

My favorite game shown in TGS was not even a next-gen game but a current gen one. It is called God's hand from Clover Studios (Viewtiful Joe, Okami).

My game of the show is Lost Planet. Strange, I never liked it too much, but after seeing that last trailer something just clicked. DMC4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma and all the RPGs also looked nice, but MGS4 was quite a disappointment. Well, not that I expected much more, but I was kind of hoping it would surprise me. Nope.

[SoccerDude28]

Originally Posted by Dasilva

Who said Ninja Gaiden Sigma was exclusive? I smell Assasins Creed all over again.

Originally Posted by me

Also a new Ninja Gaiden, for anyone who enjoyed the original, will be coming to the PS3.

Do you see the word exclusive anywhere?

Originally Posted by insane_cobra

My game of the show is Lost Planet.

I have tried the demo of this one on my friend's 360. Plays like a very generic 3rd person shooter. Not really interested in it at all.

[insane_cobra]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

I have tried the demo of this one on my friend's 360. Plays like a very generic 3rd person shooter. Not really interested in it at all.

Fair enough, I've loved such games ever since I first played MDK. EDF3 is another one I'm looking forward to, did you see those GIGANTIC robots?

Hell, I'm even itching to play Bullet Witch, despite the lukewarm reviews.

[SoccerDude28]

Originally Posted by insane_cobra

Fair enough, I've loved such games ever since I first played MDK. EDF3 is another one I'm looking forward to, did you see those GIGANTIC robots?

Which game is EDF3?

Originally Posted by insane_cobra

Hell, I'm even itching to play Bullet Witch, despite the lukewarm reviews.

Is this game out yet? Gamespot says 2007 release date.

[insane_cobra]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

Which game is EDF3?

Earth Defense Force 3 (AKA Earth Defense Force X).

Is this game out yet? Gamespot says 2007 release date.

It is in Japan, but Atari is bringing it here next year. Hopefully they'll fix some issues in the meantime.

[insane_cobra]

Intel produces chips with 80 cores. That's E-I-G-H-T-Y cores. Expects them to become massively available within the next 5 years.

I wonder if Sony will now change their rhetoric about PS3's alleged ten year life cycle. It will sure look funny in 5 years.

[Solid Snake]

Make it 3.

[SoccerDude28]

Originally Posted by insane_cobra

Intel produces chips with 80 cores. That's E-I-G-H-T-Y cores. Expects them to become massively available within the next 5 years.

I wonder if Sony will now change their rhetoric about PS3's alleged ten year life cycle. It will sure look funny in 5 years.

If you are a programmer, you know it is almost impossible to make use of an 80-core processor (let alone 7). It is always a trend in technology that hardware is always leaps and bounds ahead of software.

Hey PS2 games are still the most selling games of any platform till this day and it's year 6 now. I don't see anyone buying XBOX games that much anymore, and the console hasen't been out for 5 years. If there is one thing good about Sony, it is respecting their current consumer base. Okami, God of War 2, God's Hand, Final Fantasy XII, these are all AAA exclusive titles and they are coming out in YEAR 6. Microsoft on the other hand took a dump on all their current customers, saying "Well... we are completely abandoning our platform, and screw everyone who has one. But you can always BUY the newer and shinier one".

[insane_cobra]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

If you are a programmer, you know it is almost impossible to make use of an 80-core processor (let alone 7). It is always a trend in technology that hardware is always leaps and bounds ahead of software.

True to some extent. Most game programmers are still not used to working in multithreaded enviroments, but there are ways to utilize even 80 core processors. For instance, let 5 or 6 threads take care of various game systems and allocate all remaining threads to AI processing. That way you could have a great number of complex, presistent characters - each with its own thread - "intelligently" interacting with the game world all the time. There are many other potential uses.

Microsoft dumped the original Xbox some time ago, but other publishers haven't. It's still getting a steady stream of games and will continue to do so until the end of this year. Then it will indeed slowly die out. But make no mistake, if Xbox was as successful platform as PS2, Microsoft would still be milking it. And vice versa.

[undeaf]

Originally Posted by insane_cobra

Intel produces chips with 80 cores. That's E-I-G-H-T-Y cores. Expects them to become massively available within the next 5 years.

But that's just what intel is claiming, and they had also promised that the pentium 4 would reach 10 ghz.

Originally Posted by insane_cobra

True to some extent. Most game programmers are still not used to working in multithreaded enviroments

Well, they've had since the 32x to get used to it.(that's an oversimplification)


That article says it will have 80 floating point cores. That's a lot like the cell, that means that either IBM is ahead of intel on an important development, or this processor might not get past the prototype stage.