Gamecube on its last legs

squarejawhero · 10-07-2005, 01:15 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4319364.stm

Didn't exactly last too long... it's been dying for at least a year and a half. Great games, but hardly anything being released.

Intrepid Homoludens · 10-07-2005, 01:17 PM

D'you think that, as a corporation, Nintendo is too conservative and is adverse at taking risks?

squarejawhero · 10-07-2005, 01:21 PM

No.

I just think they developed into being crap at drumming up third-party support and keeping it, plus they have a haphazard attitude to releases and the amount of titles for their platforms. I hear they're very restrictive.

Although I admire their commitment to quality and innovation completely, having, what, two games released that are worth buying per year is a wierd strategy. The Gamecube is dying because they cut their support for it a long time ago - and gamers know this.

Intrepid Homoludens · 10-07-2005, 01:25 PM

That's my main compaint about them. They suck at being more open to different kinds of developers, they're inconsistent with maintaining a steady stream of new titles (not just sequels and franchises, but REALLY new concepts), and they have a cavalier, standoffish attitude about games and gaming culture and how to address them.

10-07-2005, 01:44 PM

Speaking of Nintendo, GBA Micro = Stupidest thing ever.

RLacey · 10-07-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

D'you think that, as a corporation, Nintendo is too conservative and is adverse at taking risks?

Revolution controller? DS? How were these not risks?

I agree that their third-party support has been lacking, though, and I think that this, combined with their innovation, could help them to do much better this time round.

Intrepid Homoludens · 10-07-2005, 02:13 PM

They need a lot of help in their marketing and PR, imo.

10-07-2005, 02:49 PM

Agreed.

insane_cobra · 10-07-2005, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

That's my main compaint about them. They suck at being more open to different kinds of developers, they're inconsistent with maintaining a steady stream of new titles (not just sequels and franchises, but REALLY new concepts), and they have a cavalier, standoffish attitude about games and gaming culture and how to address them.

Heh...

Maybe you missed it in another thread.

Kolzig · 10-07-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SamNMax

Speaking of Nintendo, GBA Micro = Stupidest thing ever.

But still it sells hellish amounts everywhere where it's it's released.

SamandMax · 10-07-2005, 10:49 PM

The Gamecube still has the new Zelda. That's all the legs they need.

squarejawhero · 10-07-2005, 11:05 PM

If that was the case, more people would have Gamecubes.

Intrepid Homoludens · 10-07-2005, 11:06 PM

I never did warm up to the Cube's design. To me it just looked too....dorky.

insane_cobra · 10-07-2005, 11:34 PM

I can see what you mean.

However, PCs aren't much better either.

I like dorky. Cool has never been a part of gaming culture and that's what so beautiful about it - you can be childish. Well, not so since teenage boys with raging hormones and l33t powergamers took over.

Intrepid Homoludens · 10-07-2005, 11:39 PM

My prefered idea of childish is different from all that.

*Jake* · 10-07-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SamNMax

Speaking of Nintendo, GBA Micro = Stupidest thing ever.

Why are you telling lies!? What did I tell you about lying to our friends?!? God. If you can't stop this I'm going to have to leave you.

Seriously. I mean, holy shit. Owned.

Avinash_Tyagi · 10-08-2005, 06:26 AM

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Speaking of Nintendo, GBA Micro = Stupidest thing ever.

30,000+ were sold in Japan last week

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They need a lot of help in their marketing and PR, imo.

Nintendo's problem in the console side of gaming stems from their desire to protect their profits, as a result they ended up souring relations with many third-party DEVs, and when they decided to go with Carts in the N64 era, many of those DEVs decided to jump over to Sony as a result the N64 saw some great games but only some, while the PS1 got a ton of games.

Then in the GCN era, although they've fixed up many of their relations with third parties, they had the downside of remaining offline, now in terms of profits this was the right thing to do, but in terms of marketshare they've hurt themselves, because third parties wanted to do online games and nintendo didn't.

Basically their low marketshare has been due to third party support, nintendo can continue to support their consoles, but without strong third party support you get only a few good games a year.

Tanukitsune · 10-08-2005, 06:36 AM

What makes it worse is the fact that even if a third party game is released for the Gamecube, they won't bother to put it on the shelves to have more space for PS2 games...

I've been looking for quite a few games that have been released on Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox, and I usually buy them in for those formats, in that orders of preference unless the difference is quite noticable from one to another, but...

Most game stores and stores with game sections have HUGE PS2 sections and micro sections for the rest...

The local Media Markt is a good example, it has FOUR aisles of PS2 games, two for PC and ONE THIRD EACH for the rest!

Which reminds me...

This is quite off-topic but I just realized something...

When the Xbox 360 is out, they'll have to make room for it by removing from another section, and then again for the PS3 and AGAIN for the Revolution!

Oh, dear...

SakSquash · 10-08-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

30,000+ were sold in Japan last week

So? They'll buy anything quirky.

Kolzig · 10-08-2005, 07:42 AM

It has also sold huge amounts in US.

10-07-2005, 01:15 PM	#1
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	Gamecube on its last legs http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4319364.stm Didn't exactly last too long... it's been dying for at least a year and a half. Great games, but hardly anything being released. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

10-07-2005, 01:17 PM	#2
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10-07-2005, 01:21 PM	#3
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	No. I just think they developed into being crap at drumming up third-party support and keeping it, plus they have a haphazard attitude to releases and the amount of titles for their platforms. I hear they're very restrictive. Although I admire their commitment to quality and innovation completely, having, what, two games released that are worth buying per year is a wierd strategy. The Gamecube is dying because they cut their support for it a long time ago - and gamers know this. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

10-07-2005, 01:25 PM	#4
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	That's my main compaint about them. They suck at being more open to different kinds of developers, they're inconsistent with maintaining a steady stream of new titles (not just sequels and franchises, but REALLY new concepts), and they have a cavalier, standoffish attitude about games and gaming culture and how to address them. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

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10-07-2005, 02:13 PM	#7
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	They need a lot of help in their marketing and PR, imo. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

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SamNMax Guest Posts: n/a	Agreed. Share Share this post on Twitter

10-07-2005, 10:49 PM	#11
SamandMax A Slice of Fried Gold Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,024	The Gamecube still has the new Zelda. That's all the legs they need. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ SamandMax's Recommended Songs Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball They Might Be Giants - Dog Walker The Kinks - Money Talks Gorillaz - DoYaThing

10-07-2005, 11:05 PM	#12
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	If that was the case, more people would have Gamecubes. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

10-07-2005, 11:06 PM	#13
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	I never did warm up to the Cube's design. To me it just looked too....dorky. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

10-07-2005, 11:34 PM	#14
insane_cobra gin soaked boy Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virovitica, Croatia Posts: 4,093	I can see what you mean. However, PCs aren't much better either. I like dorky. Cool has never been a part of gaming culture and that's what so beautiful about it - you can be childish. Well, not so since teenage boys with raging hormones and l33t powergamers took over. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ What you piss in is yours for life.

10-07-2005, 11:39 PM	#15
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	My prefered idea of childish is different from all that. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

10-08-2005, 06:36 AM	#18
Tanukitsune ACK! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 2,448	What makes it worse is the fact that even if a third party game is released for the Gamecube, they won't bother to put it on the shelves to have more space for PS2 games... I've been looking for quite a few games that have been released on Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox, and I usually buy them in for those formats, in that orders of preference unless the difference is quite noticable from one to another, but... Most game stores and stores with game sections have HUGE PS2 sections and micro sections for the rest... The local Media Markt is a good example, it has FOUR aisles of PS2 games, two for PC and ONE THIRD EACH for the rest! Which reminds me... This is quite off-topic but I just realized something... When the Xbox 360 is out, they'll have to make room for it by removing from another section, and then again for the PS3 and AGAIN for the Revolution! Oh, dear... Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Apparently I have a Devianrt Art account... And people actually like it!

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