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Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
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09-17-2005, 03:17 PM | #2 |
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woot woot woot woot woot woot woot!
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09-17-2005, 03:48 PM | #3 |
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09-17-2005, 05:50 PM | #4 |
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09-17-2005, 11:46 PM | #5 |
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It looks like such a dark and depressing game. Wicked.
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could someone rich please GIVE me the money for a new ps3 when it comes out? i really have no intention of buying it otherwise and all i want to play is metal gear solid four! it's so unfair!
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09-18-2005, 05:25 AM | #7 |
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I wonder if Metal Gear Solid 3 is ever going to get a PC release. I enjoyed playing MGS and MGS2: Substance on PC (and I only own a GameCube).
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09-18-2005, 05:34 AM | #8 | |
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09-19-2005, 04:21 PM | #9 | |
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Even more evidence of Kojima's mental instability:
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09-20-2005, 08:02 AM | #10 |
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09-20-2005, 08:30 AM | #11 |
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The trailer for this game and the general concept (Snake as aging cop) has made me want to go back and actually play the first 3 games so I'll be ready for the 4th one.
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09-20-2005, 08:41 AM | #12 |
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Obviously I won't be making friends in this thread by saying this, but Hideo Kojima is a hack. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy most of his games, but the guy should just make cheesy movies as far as I'm concerned. He did want to be a film director originally, afterall. It's so obvious for someone like me (movie fanatic) to see every...single...source that he has ripped from. In his "camera work", in his dialogue, in his characters, in everything... The man doesn't have an original idea in his head I'm afraid.
Even back in 1998 before I had seen as many films as I have now, I wrote up a list of all the rip offs I noticed in Kojima's Metal Gear Solid for Playstation. I think it totalled up to well over 20 instances (at least three from Kurosawa, two or so from McTiernan, one or two from Michael Bay for God knows what reason, etc.). He has been like this from the beginning. Snatcher was good fun, but the guy basically combined Blade Runner and The Terminator. It just bothers me that he gets so much credit for being some sort of storytelling genius through the medium of gaming, when everything he does is unoriginal. Oh well, like I said, the games are fun for the most part... |
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Splinter Cell I would say is a damn good stealth action game as well, but I'm not sure I'd say it's "better" than MGS. As with everything, it depends on what you're looking for. If the gameplay is all you're interested in then SC is, in many ways, better. On the other hand, half the fun of playing a spy game is the political intrigue. And on that level, SC doesn't even begin to compare to MGS. Its intrigue just isn't very intriguing at all. Also, let's bear in mind that Hideo Kojima pretty much invented the stealth action game. We probably wouldn't even be talking about Splinter Cell right now if it hadn't been for him. So the claim that Kojima lacks any originality I don't think holds much weight. mag |
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Just to add my disagreement to the assesment that Kojima is a hack, as he is one of the few brilliant designers in our field, but, and this is a big one, he listened to his fans. Despite his personal problems with true 3rd person(he gets motion sickness), MGS3: Subsistance coming out early next year is doing just this. Full 3rd person gameplay with player controlled camera and online multiplayer gameplay including all the great stealth and CQC stuff.
I'm a fan of Splinter Cell myself, but it most definitely does not have the incredible attention to detail and production value of a MGS game...nowhere NEAR, and again, I consider SC to be a competent series by competent people. Thats just how good the MGS games are. The ending in MGS3 alone was so powerful for me...SC has yet to match that on any level. Cheers |
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Basically, I agree with you that Kojima deserves credit. In a sense, he did invent the genre. But the real leap forward (like Half-Life in the FPS genre) was Tenchu in my opinion. Granted, MGS was already in the making at that time and would be released a mere seven months later, but Tenchu beat it to the punch, and one could argue that it had equally good gameplay. Quote:
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