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Old 09-24-2006, 08:00 PM   #1641
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I can't precisely remember which movie I watched most recently. So instead, I'll mention the one we were going to see tonight, until our schedule made us late: The Illusionist.
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:12 PM   #1642
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The Illusionist was a fun movie, been seeing ads for one that looks exactly like it, though: The Prestige. Been wondering if I should bother, as it looks so similar.
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I guess that's respectable, just a very mainstream-movie-goer type of opinion, though. A movie has to have a narrative that has a point, character development, some humor, a big acting scene for the Oscar reels, story-based rather than imagery-based ideas, etc etc. That's not meant to be condescending, just how your average joe movie-goer thinks, I believe.
So what does 2001 actually offer? Some pretty visuals for an overly long running time and a plot that makes no sense? Perhaps I am shallow; I can happily accept that some people see it as art, but I just find it all a bit pointless. I didn't walk away from the film thinking anything other than that it was incredibly boring.
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So what does 2001 actually offer? Some pretty visuals for an overly long running time and a plot that makes no sense?
RLacey, there's nothing necessarily wrong with your opinion, but given the fact that you think the plot makes no sense, perhaps you should watch it again. It makes perfect sense, it just refuses to spoon feed the viewer like so many bloated Hollywood epics.

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Regardless of whether that was his message or not, it left me as a viewer feeling bored rather than thoughtful. It didn't work.
There are plenty of people who have watched 2001 because of its reputation, rushing to see it and coming away disappointed. I believe they go into it with the wrong mindset. I can think of only Tarkovasky's Solaris when I think of films that share the leisurely pace of 2001 in the sci/fi genre, most sci/fi films are interested in action scenes over ideas. 2001 is a film of riches that don't all emerge on the first, or even second, viewing. Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. 2001's place in film history can't be changed. It's legendary and influential. A classic. So obviously...it worked for someone. Heh.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:10 AM   #1645
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So what does 2001 actually offer? Some pretty visuals for an overly long running time and a plot that makes no sense? Perhaps I am shallow; I can happily accept that some people see it as art, but I just find it all a bit pointless. I didn't walk away from the film thinking anything other than that it was incredibly boring.
I won't answer that question as OAV already did, and probably more eloquently than I could. But yea, what 2001 offers isn't the list of typical movie conventions I listed earlier. It's a movie that relishes in ideas and imagery to convey said ideas. But unlike typically cynical and pessimistic intellectual fare, 2001 is very optimistic and hopeful. The last shot was a grand exit for Bowman the human, as he became the next evolution for man.

This is the kind of movie whose every frame could be studied, much like Kubrick's own Clockwork Orange and Eyes Wide Shut. He puts so much effort into making every shot convey so many things. His movies aren't typically made for the masses, or at least appreciated fully by the masses (post Strangelove, anyway).
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Box of Moonlight. Another one with Sam Rockwell and his full frontal nakedness. Cute and genuinely quirky, but not as good as Lawn Dogs.
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I personally found 2001 to simply be wacky. Especially the last scene. (???)
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Im going to see CLICK with one of my girl friends, should be fun, I was going to watch World Trade Centre but I dont feel like a sad movie.
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Cute and genuinely quirky, but not as good as Lawn Dogs.
The movie or the nudity? lol
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Old 09-26-2006, 09:00 AM   #1650
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I saw Exotica again on DVD. It's one of this movies that get better each time I watch them, and that leave me thoughful every time, too.
This movie epitomize what I want a movie to be; enthralling, beautiful, sensual, dark, a tad perverse, and very human. with great music, too.

So if anyone has similar movies to recommend...
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:06 AM   #1651
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Ah I really wanna see Exotica, and Sweet Hereafter.
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I highly recommend Kelly's Heroes.
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The Sweet Hereafter....that's an amazing film! The lawyer character was soooo slick, working on all of their emotions the way he did. Love the glance at the end too, between him and the bus driver.
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I highly recommend Kelly's Heroes.
Kelly's Heroes is an awesome film...
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:21 AM   #1655
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Clerks II


Kevin Smith is a genius.

Clerks II is the funniest, crudest, most non-PC comedy i've seen in years. How many dick jokes can you fit in one film.

Don't drink while watching this movie unless you want to choke or spray the people in front of you.

I was laughing so hard I think I coughed up something.

Every film should have an 'interspecies erotic' scene in a Fast Food joint in it. It's too fu**in funny for words.
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Randal Graves: He says it's almost like a little cock, which says all sorts of weird things about him that I don't even want to think about.
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*orders chest x-ray for Lucien*

Just to make sure you're OK.

I missed this when it was released in the US. I'll definitely watch it on DVD as I loved the first one and from your mini review, I highly doubt I'll be disappointed. Maybe if I'm lucky they'll have a two-fer with Clerks I and II for sale when it comes out on DVD.

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Kevin Smith is a genius.
That's an affront to geniuses everywhere.
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I think the only great Kevin Smith film is Chasing Amy. Because it was so personal, one could see that a lot of the real Kevin Smith was in that movie.
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Old 09-30-2006, 04:58 PM   #1659
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Agreed. Dogma is the next best.

Anyway, as has been the case recently I haven't really been posting my movies. Here are a couple I really liked:

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - probably the best "death of the West" Westerns I've seen. Everything in this movie is great, from both an entertainment perspective and an intellectual one.

Some Like it Hot - if I didn't like Dr Strangelove so damn much I'd say this could be making a run for the best comedy, along with Annie Hall. So much subtle, yet at the same time blatant, sexuality. This is my first Marilyn Monroe viewing experience and she was just as sexy and funny as I've always heard. She nearly steals the movie from the outrageous Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis.
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"I'm not even supposed to be here today" - Dante (Clerks)

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I just needed to add my 2 cents for Kevin Smith.

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