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squarejawhero 07-07-2005 01:17 AM

London Explosions
 
I'm OK - scrugates, nuttygal - you alright? Any other AG'ers from London OK?

Luckily I didn't go into work today. I wouldn't have been effected too much, but I'm glad I changed my project hand-in date to Friday.

squarejawhero 07-07-2005 01:35 AM

Looks like terrorist attacks in lieu of the G8 summit. I haven't been able to contact my ex who's working in London to see if she's OK, but she was away from the areas affected.

London is locked down. 3 buses destroyed and multiple underground explosions.

Starflux 07-07-2005 01:39 AM

Hotdamn. I'm seeing it on German television now.

squarejawhero 07-07-2005 01:42 AM

My guess this isn't the last. I hope they are, but the timing of one after the other seems scary.

Lucien21 07-07-2005 02:12 AM

F**king terrorists

I hope all the Londoners are ok.

Heard of at least 6 explosions so far.

No numbers on Casulties as yet.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

squarejawhero 07-07-2005 02:17 AM

My ex was in the middle of it. Thankfully she's fine - on the central line no less, and 5 mins ago sitting on a bus whilst I spoke to her! Crazy.

Lucien21 07-07-2005 02:27 AM

I see that the BBC are already blaming Al Queyada (sp??)

Lucien21 07-07-2005 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by squarejawhero
My ex was in the middle of it. Thankfully she's fine - on the central line no less, and 5 mins ago sitting on a bus whilst I spoke to her! Crazy.


At least she is OK.

squarejawhero 07-07-2005 02:31 AM

RE Al Qaeda I think it's a bit early to start pointing fingers, but I saw that too. It's probably more likely western terrorists taking advantage of the security services around the G8. Hopefully it's not diversion for something big your way.

Lucien21 07-07-2005 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by squarejawhero
RE Al Qaeda I think it's a bit early to start pointing fingers, but I saw that too. It's probably more likely western terrorists taking advantage of the security services around the G8. Hopefully it's not diversion for something big your way.

Security up here is pretty tight. Probably why they picked London.

squarejawhero 07-07-2005 02:53 AM

It's an obvious target, but they're moving the security specialists from the G8 down here.

squarejawhero 07-07-2005 02:58 AM

Blair appeared on television just now.

"Our commitment to protecting our way of life is greater than the terrorist determination to cause death and destruction."

It was extremely heartfelt, he looked very, very close to tears and stunningly shocked. It was obvious he was talking from the top of his head by the thought he was putting into the speech. Considering he fears this kind of thing, looking at him it felt like if the guys who did it were in the same room he'd tear them apart with his bare hands.

adfegg 07-07-2005 03:16 AM

What I find striking is that it's a few days after the Make Poverty History march in Edinburgh. Two contrasting methods of making a point. To me, this highlights how stupid terrorist attacks really are: It doesn't acheive anything except to harden the resolve of your adversary.

Gandhi understood this, so why is it beyond these people?

samIamsad 07-07-2005 03:16 AM

I just got up... :(

Lucien21 07-07-2005 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adfegg
What I find striking is that it's a few days after the Make Poverty History march in Edinburgh. Two contrasting methods of making a point. To me, this highlights how stupid terrorist attacks really are: It doesn't acheive anything except to harden the resolve of your adversary.

Gandhi understood this, so why is it beyond these people?


Living in Edinburgh i've seen the contrasting methods first hand.

Luckily nothing on the scale of what has happened in London, but it is clear that terrorism doesn't work all that well.

It just resolves the people attacked to attack back.

Just ask the Japanese after the surprise attack at Pearl Harbour where they "woke a sleeping Giant" in the US.

SakSquash 07-07-2005 03:35 AM

Yeah, I just got up too. My heart is with you guys. Stay safe.

adfegg 07-07-2005 03:37 AM

I suppose I should also mention what a reminder this is of just how self-centred we are. Apart from the politicians, of course, they're so self-centred they never realise it. Many foreign countries and organisations have sound reason to hate us, but are we doing anything about it? Are we, heck!

SakSquash 07-07-2005 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by adfegg
I suppose I should also mention what a reminder this is of just how self-centred we are. Apart from the politicians, of course, they're so self-centred they never realise it. Many foreign countries and organisations have sound reason to hate us, but are we doing anything about it? Are we, heck!

Sound reasons for hating us? Dude, you seriously need to go....forget it. I'm not going to argure with idiots in this thread.

squarejawhero 07-07-2005 03:55 AM

As tempsie said, leave that debate to another thread.

Lucien21 07-07-2005 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adfegg
I suppose I should also mention what a reminder this is of just how self-centred we are. Apart from the politicians, of course, they're so self-centred they never realise it. Many foreign countries and organisations have sound reason to hate us, but are we doing anything about it? Are we, heck!

They probably have reasons to hate. Whether those reasons are sound or not is a matter of interpretation.

But yes most countries have pissed off others at some point or other.

You can't please everyone all the time.

Not an excuse for this kind of action though.

Damn cowards.


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