[Sage]

Originally Posted by Talas

Oh God, I remember that scene... thank you very much

Hey, I'm not the one who mentioned it first.
One more reason why "Female Trouble" is the superior film.

ScottMate

[insane_cobra]

Originally Posted by Ninth

9 songs is incredibly crude, but it's got nothing to do with perversion. That's a novelty. Unless it's been done in a ton of movies that I haven't seen.

Depends on what you consider perverse.

No, you might be right, all the older films I'm familiar with (movies by Walerian Borowczyk, Marco Ferreri, even Tinto Brass) were more artsy or just plain exploitative and somewhat further from the mainstream than 9 Songs and its likes.

[syntheticgerbil]

Originally Posted by Ninth

If I said I had browsed through Bone and it was crap, you'll probably call me a mother****er.
Anyway, the only real point I saw in your post was : "So I guess the moral of the story is most art "underground" movies are shit or something.", and this only thing I can answer to that is that it's stupid and doesn't add anything of value to the thread, which I did, only with other words.
Also, I hesitated to develop and say what I thought about each of the movies or realisator you named, but then decided that you didn't care anyway, or you wouldn't have posted in such a categoric way.

Oh don't give me that. If you browse through a comic book, or any book for that matter, you are sampling what's going on. If you did in fact browse through it and didn't like it, that's your decision. Don't assume you know me.

The real problem is that I didn't name any of those movies to talk about how good they were and obviously the art movie comment was a throw away. I do like some art movies. And the fact that disgusting pornographic scenes in a movie would be considered a work of art brings up a point on how far is too far.

You're not kidding me, you just have some sort of personal disgust towards anything I post. And don't say that I didn't add anything to the thread, because obviously if I brought up those awful scenes in the movies, it says something about how a grace taken with realistic pornography in a film can be taken too far. You even derived from my example in a post after the one you thought you would make your snide comment in, hypocrite.

So just shut up with your arrogance, because I don't need comments from you like, "I can't believe I actually agree with you." I don't care that you happen to grace me with your higher intellectual presence where you don upon me the same value as your hallowed opinion because you say its so. (And on the internet no doubt. Come on.)

Give me a break.

[insane_cobra]

Less caffeine, guys.

[Ninth]

Originally Posted by syntheticgerbil

Oh don't give me that. If you browse through a comic book, or any book for that matter, you are sampling what's going on. If you did in fact browse through it and didn't like it, that's your decision. Don't assume you know me.

The real problem is that I didn't name any of those movies to talk about how good they were and obviously the art movie comment was a throw away. I do like some art movies. And the fact that disgusting pornographic scenes in a movie would be considered a work of art brings up a point on how far is too far.

You're not kidding me, you just have some sort of personal disgust towards anything I post. And don't say that I didn't add anything to the thread, because obviously if I brought up those awful scenes in the movies, it says something about how a grace taken with realistic pornography in a film can be taken too far. You even derived from my example in a post after the one you thought you would make your snide comment in, hypocrite.

So just shut up with your arrogance, because I don't need comments from you like, "I can't believe I actually agree with you." I don't care that you happen to grace me with your higher intellectual presence where you don upon me the same value as your hallowed opinion because you say its so. (And on the internet no doubt. Come on.)

Give me a break.

I'm not expecting you, or anybody, to like movies with shocking sex scenes, and it's your right not to watch them. But if you don't, then you're not exactly in position to say that they are crap. My main beef with your post was against the blind categorization that you ended with. I did raise some other points, but not explicitly, and they were hidden behind the crap thing.
Anyway, I don't have a personal disgust against you or your post, I happen to disagree with a lot that I've seen you post, and my "I can't believe I actually agree with you" came from that. Believe or not, it was not supposed to be aggressive, or demeaning, because there's no particular reason why my opinion should be more valuable than yours, especially when it comes to adventure games. I haven't replied to any of your posts previously because I didn't see the need to start something like what's going on here, but since you took my comment about agreeing so badly, and since you then hated me already, I thought there was no reason not to answer your original post in this thread, which annoyed me.
You have a very aggressive style, as I'm sure you're aware of, and when it's used against things that I like, it's particulary annoying to me. Which is why I answer abruptly. You can't not expect this kind of answers, right?
Also, there's no need to be theatrical. Your last sentence has a lot of pretty words, but it's above my grasp of the english language, and calling me arrogant or hypocrite doesn't make no sense. Don't assume you know me, as you said.

[Sage]

Sheesh!
I was thinking of drawing a parallel between certain "art films" and the work of Robert Mapplethorpe, but maybe I'd better put that off for now.

ScottMate

[syntheticgerbil]

Originally Posted by Ninth

Your last sentence has a lot of pretty words, but it's above my grasp of the english language, and calling me arrogant or hypocrite doesn't make no sense. Don't assume you know me, as you said.

I'm not going to pretend like I'm very good at grammar and have an awful run on sentence problem, but here goes...

It was in reply to what you initially said in another thread, which is why it's the same paragraph. "Arrogant" coming from the context of the Bone thread in which you gratefully bestow your agreement upon me and "hypocrite" because you take note of my movie examples in your own argument in this thread even though you would rather make me look stupid for it.

I've already explained why I think it's okay for me to criticise those movies even though I haven't seen them all the way through, so I'm not going to repeat myself.

Anyways, if you have any more personal problems with me, I'd rather you just private message me first.

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Ninth and synthenticgerbil, if you want to carry on this discussion between you please get a room, okay?

We are talking about Sex and Film and we will continue doing it, so please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

[samIamsad]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

We are talking about Sex and Film and we will continue doing it, so please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

I thought sex and violence could come along well?

[Intrepid Homoludens]

That would be this thread.

Thankyouhaveaniceday.

[Sage]

Originally Posted by samIamsad

I thought sex and violence could come along well?

Ah, yes...there's nothing quite like showing up for work on Monday morning with a black eye and huge hickey. The earmarks of a weekend savored to the fullest.

ScottMate

[Kolzig]

Originally Posted by samIamsad

Oh my. There are more of these Lederhosen movies than I thought there were.

http://www.imdb.com/find?q=lederhosen;s=all
This is funny, though:
Certification: Finland: (Banned) (1973) / Sweden:15

Banned? ROFL.

They used to ban all kinds of movies here in the 70's, also up to the 80's foreign movies were cut very badly when they were imported to here.

[samIamsad]

Originally Posted by Thrift Store Scott

Ah, yes...there's nothing quite like showing up for work on Monday morning with a black eye and huge hickey. The earmarks of a weekend savored to the fullest.

Eye patches are sexy!



Whoops.



Ah.



Did they really ban all kind of movies, Kolzig? Or did it have to do with, ahem, explicit nudity?

[Kolzig]

I'm pretty sure they banned all kinds of movies, but these days many of those movies are not banned in here anymore. I think the movies got banned not just because of nudity but because of some extreme things happening in the movies.

One example movie that comes to my mind is Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma (1976) by Pier Paulo Pasolini. I actually went and saw that movie when it was unbanned here few years ago... what a sick movie...

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Originally Posted by Kolzig

One example movie that comes to my mind is Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma (1976) by Pier Paulo Pasolini. I actually went and saw that movie when it was unbanned here few years ago... what a sick movie...

I saw that years ago with a couple of friends, when I was in art school. I remember leaving the theatre and Wanda and Ben were laughing about it. I was quiet, my mouth open. I couldn't get those images out of my head for weeks.

[Ninth]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

I saw that years ago with a couple of friends, when I was in art school. I remember leaving the theatre and Wanda and Ben were laughing about it. I was quiet, my mouth open. I couldn't get those images out of my head for weeks.

I didn't find it funny, but the images didn't impress me much. I guess it went too far in the horror for me to really feel emotional about it... Which in turn taught me a lesson about the human nature : if you explore the realms of inhumanity deep enough, there's one point after which you're able to convince yourself that what you're seeing/doing is not true. It's quite horrific.

[Manhunter71]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

Spoiler:

A male orgasm.

More specifically

Spoiler:

a cumshot