Alien vs. Predator

SamandMax · 08-15-2004, 09:12 AM

Here's my short review of AVP: It sucks.

Don't pay $10 to see it. It starts off weak, and eventually goes downhill to become unitentionally funny. The characters are about as deep as the characters in an episode of Jackass, and a lot of them only say 2 or 3 lines before they're killed in a tame, PG-13 way. This happens for the first 60 minutes of the movie, and actually, this is the better part of the movie.

The last 20 minutes are unbelievably bad. I'll use spoilers in case you haven't seen it.

Spoiler:
The remaining predator and the remaining human team up to fight the aliens. Not only is it a terrible idea, they do it in the worst way possible. In one scene, we see the remaining girl and the predator running from a huge fire in slow motion. It's one of the most ridiculous things I've seen all year, and also one of the funniest.

Paul Anderson, who also made Resident Evil and Soldier, should be stopped after this. AVP is such a good idea, but he completely butchers it and makes a movie that probably wouldn't even be released direct-to-video if it didn't have the Aliens or Predators in it.

ConcreteRancor · 08-16-2004, 06:45 AM

I wasn't planning on seeing this one, mainly because I have not seen any of the Alien movies nor a single Predator movie in its entirety. (I saw bits of Predator and Predator 2 on cable, but not the whole movie.) Now I know I can take my time because I don't want to see this new one in the theatres. Thanks.

P.S. Come on, man, Resident Evil was a good movie! Mindless zombie-bashing in all its glory! In my personal movie reviews, if a movie has zombies in it, it earns an additional star. So the worst zombie movie possible is still one star.

RLacey · 08-16-2004, 11:56 AM

Oh well. Maybe one day someone with some writing and directing talent will come up with a film that does this idea justice.

Sly Boots · 08-16-2004, 02:41 PM

Well, Alien 2 is my favourite horror movie of all time. I've seen it over 10 times.
Alien vs. Predator though, I won't go see it. I don't think it was a good idea to begin with (Freddy vs Jason anyone) and it gives PC Games a bad name.
Now, Deus Ex and Max Payne, that I'd pay to see.
Unfortunately, seems like Deus Ex : The Movie won't be made after all, even if the script is done. It's a shame that crappy games get movies, but the real innovative ones (and I'm mainly talking about the story) don't.

Intrepid Homoludens · 08-16-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SamandMax

Paul Anderson, who also made Resident Evil and Soldier, should be stopped after this.

Paul Anderson should have his hands cut off, strapped down to a chair, and forced to watch Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds and Ridley Scott's Alien to finally see what he's been missing. And then he should never allowed to direct for the rest of his life.

Skinkie · 08-16-2004, 09:17 PM

A bunch of my friends went to see this, and they had nothing but bad things to say.

Kolzig · 08-16-2004, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly Boots

Well, Alien 2 is my favourite horror movie of all time. I've seen it over 10 times.
Alien vs. Predator though, I won't go see it. I don't think it was a good idea to begin with (Freddy vs Jason anyone) and it gives PC Games a bad name.
Now, Deus Ex and Max Payne, that I'd pay to see.
Unfortunately, seems like Deus Ex : The Movie won't be made after all, even if the script is done. It's a shame that crappy games get movies, but the real innovative ones (and I'm mainly talking about the story) don't.

Alien 2 is more like a action movie than a horror movie, damn that Cameron

Alien vs. Predator sure looks like a crap movie, I've seen all the trailers and other features and it does not look good. Only interesting thing about it is Lance Henriksen.

On the other hand, Deus Ex the movie might get done, if a certain saviour called Uwe Boll would buy the rights for it

ConcreteRancor · 08-17-2004, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolzig

On the other hand, Deus Ex the movie might get done, if a certain saviour called Uwe Boll would buy the rights for it

See, I'd much rather movies for good games NOT get made rather than see them get made and be butchered, like I'm expecting Far Cry to be. Tomb Raider was already a self-parody by the time they made the movies, but Alone in the Dark, and Far Cry... Far Cry man... I mean, why?!? What did it do to deserve this?!?

Kolzig · 08-17-2004, 01:11 PM

I already hate Boll for butchering AitD.

The movie should've been about the first game, set in a Lovecraft themed mansion and the hero should've been a 50 years old Edward Carnby with the god damn trademark mustache.

And Boll should've stayed away from the franchise.

Maquisard · 08-17-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SamandMax

Don't pay $10 to see it.

How about if I pay $5, is that OK with you?

SamandMax · 08-18-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mares

How about if I pay $5, is that OK with you?

I still wouldn't recommend it for that much. I'd say only watch this movie if it's free and there's nothing else to watch.

Intrepid Homoludens · 08-18-2004, 04:49 PM

$5? Hmmmm, that would probably fetch me a sem-decent game from the bargain bin at EB. Or a very decent martini. Decisions, decisions......

Bard09 · 08-21-2004, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

$5? Hmmmm, that would probably fetch me a sem-decent game from the bargain bin at EB.

Better yet, spend it on the AvP II game. Worth every penny, and I bet it's floating around $15 to $20 now.

Intrepid Homoludens · 08-21-2004, 08:55 PM

Oh, I did see it at EB a couple weeks ago. $13, man! Just that it was jewel case only. Didn't feel like spending the money at the time, though. The demo's a lot of fun in the meanwhile (you get to play all three creatures).

samIamsad · 12-13-2007, 09:25 AM

The first five minutes of the sequel are up. Mind you, the only reason I'm vaguely interested in this is that I've been an Alien fan all along. I think this crossover bullshit is a cheap way of cashing in on things that don't deserve to be treated as a cash cow. Liked Monolith's AvP vid game, though!

http://www.canmag.com/nw/9880-aliens...g-five-minutes

It's apparently heavily edited and recycles both from the Resurrection and Predator soundtrack (maybe it'll stay that way though?), but it looks like this film might at least have a little bit of what the first film lacked completely: Tempo and action. Anderson tried to go "go back to the roots™" and thought he had found some kind of cookie cutter formula of what made the first films of each franchise work, like: "A-HAH! It's got to be because they held back on the creatures for so long!" So he tried to paste&copy suspense, build-up (and oh my god: characters), and I've yet so see a movie of his that can do anything else than halfway decent live action sequences galore. AvP didn't have those either, quick cuts are no replacement for decent coreography.

First positive reactions to this and a prior trailer seem to come from the fact that "OMG there's real blood now!". AvP was a PG13.

SamandMax · 12-14-2007, 10:03 PM

Wow, I have no recollection of making this thread. But as much as I hated Alien vs. Predator (which as you can tell was a lot) I'm going to give the second one a chance, there's the smallest sliver of chance that they can actually pull it off and make a decent movie. It'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised by it.

Intrepid Homoludens · 12-14-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SamandMax

Wow, I have no recollection of making this thread.

You were prolly fubar from too much cough syrup.

[toj.cc]Phantom · 12-14-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly Boots

Well, Alien 2 is my favourite horror movie of all time. I've seen it over 10 times.
Alien vs. Predator though, I won't go see it. I don't think it was a good idea to begin with (Freddy vs Jason anyone) and it gives PC Games a bad name.
Now, Deus Ex and Max Payne, that I'd pay to see.
Unfortunately, seems like Deus Ex : The Movie won't be made after all, even if the script is done. It's a shame that crappy games get movies, but the real innovative ones (and I'm mainly talking about the story) don't.

AvP (game and movie) are both based on comics.

samIamsad · 12-26-2007, 02:28 PM

A vile, joyless, moronic, amateurish, numbing, unintentionally hilarious , and thorougly deseased motion picture... a middle-finger to the paying crowd. (Efilmcritic.com)

A perfect example of how studio stupidity and fanboy obsession can ruin cinema. (Filmcritic.com)

Despite what the harsher R-rating recommends, it's not really advisable that anyone OVER the age of 17 see this movie.
(Metromix.com)

We can only hope that the sub-title means that this money making farce is finally over.
(Shocktillyoudrop.com)

Oh the horror!

RLacey · 12-26-2007, 02:38 PM

What a surprise.

08-15-2004, 09:12 AM	#1
SamandMax A Slice of Fried Gold Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,024	Alien vs. Predator Here's my short review of AVP: It sucks. Don't pay $10 to see it. It starts off weak, and eventually goes downhill to become unitentionally funny. The characters are about as deep as the characters in an episode of Jackass, and a lot of them only say 2 or 3 lines before they're killed in a tame, PG-13 way. This happens for the first 60 minutes of the movie, and actually, this is the better part of the movie. The last 20 minutes are unbelievably bad. I'll use spoilers in case you haven't seen it. Spoiler: The remaining predator and the remaining human team up to fight the aliens. Not only is it a terrible idea, they do it in the worst way possible. In one scene, we see the remaining girl and the predator running from a huge fire in slow motion. It's one of the most ridiculous things I've seen all year, and also one of the funniest. Paul Anderson, who also made Resident Evil and Soldier, should be stopped after this. AVP is such a good idea, but he completely butchers it and makes a movie that probably wouldn't even be released direct-to-video if it didn't have the Aliens or Predators in it. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ SamandMax's Recommended Songs Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball They Might Be Giants - Dog Walker The Kinks - Money Talks Gorillaz - DoYaThing

08-16-2004, 06:45 AM	#2
ConcreteRancor No justice. Only me. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hanover, NH Posts: 1,370	I wasn't planning on seeing this one, mainly because I have not seen any of the Alien movies nor a single Predator movie in its entirety. (I saw bits of Predator and Predator 2 on cable, but not the whole movie.) Now I know I can take my time because I don't want to see this new one in the theatres. Thanks. P.S. Come on, man, Resident Evil was a good movie! Mindless zombie-bashing in all its glory! In my personal movie reviews, if a movie has zombies in it, it earns an additional star. So the worst zombie movie possible is still one star. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Fabricati Diem, Pvnc Currently playing: Shadow of the Colossus, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Guitar Hero

08-16-2004, 11:56 AM	#3
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	Oh well. Maybe one day someone with some writing and directing talent will come up with a film that does this idea justice. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

08-16-2004, 02:41 PM	#4
Sly Boots Master of Time and Space Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Romania Posts: 149	Well, Alien 2 is my favourite horror movie of all time. I've seen it over 10 times. Alien vs. Predator though, I won't go see it. I don't think it was a good idea to begin with (Freddy vs Jason anyone) and it gives PC Games a bad name. Now, Deus Ex and Max Payne, that I'd pay to see. Unfortunately, seems like Deus Ex : The Movie won't be made after all, even if the script is done. It's a shame that crappy games get movies, but the real innovative ones (and I'm mainly talking about the story) don't. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Playing: Omikron: The Nomad Soul Next: Sanitarium Replaying: QFG IV: Shadows of Darkness, Grim Fandango, Syberia Waiting for: Max Payne 3, Deus Ex 3, American McGee's OZ, The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Fahrenheit, Anachronox 2 (if they ever make it)

08-16-2004, 09:17 PM	#6
Skinkie Disciplined Breakdown Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 238	A bunch of my friends went to see this, and they had nothing but bad things to say. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ One life, One love, One World, It's Vertigo -Planet Us (Sammy Hagar, Neil Schon, Joe Satriani, Micheal Anthony, Deen Castronovo), Vertigo

08-17-2004, 01:11 PM	#9
Kolzig The Reggienator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vaasa, Finland Posts: 5,519	I already hate Boll for butchering AitD. The movie should've been about the first game, set in a Lovecraft themed mansion and the hero should've been a 50 years old Edward Carnby with the god damn trademark mustache. And Boll should've stayed away from the franchise. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "The old standby, that never got old in the first place. We come back to them weekly, nightly, for hours at a time--and they always deliver. They are pure, timeless, and often taken for granted." - Nick Breckon - Shacknews My gamesale list updated 26.8.2007 Hey, dear people please buy my games, I need money to conquer Europe! Or do something similar.

08-18-2004, 04:49 PM	#12
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	$5? Hmmmm, that would probably fetch me a sem-decent game from the bargain bin at EB. Or a very decent martini. Decisions, decisions...... Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

08-21-2004, 08:55 PM	#14
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	Oh, I did see it at EB a couple weeks ago. $13, man! Just that it was jewel case only. Didn't feel like spending the money at the time, though. The demo's a lot of fun in the meanwhile (you get to play all three creatures). Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

12-13-2007, 09:25 AM	#15
samIamsad capsized. Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,534	The first five minutes of the sequel are up. Mind you, the only reason I'm vaguely interested in this is that I've been an Alien fan all along. I think this crossover bullshit is a cheap way of cashing in on things that don't deserve to be treated as a cash cow. Liked Monolith's AvP vid game, though! http://www.canmag.com/nw/9880-aliens...g-five-minutes It's apparently heavily edited and recycles both from the Resurrection and Predator soundtrack (maybe it'll stay that way though?), but it looks like this film might at least have a little bit of what the first film lacked completely: Tempo and action. Anderson tried to go "go back to the roots™" and thought he had found some kind of cookie cutter formula of what made the first films of each franchise work, like: "A-HAH! It's got to be because they held back on the creatures for so long!" So he tried to paste&copy suspense, build-up (and oh my god: characters), and I've yet so see a movie of his that can do anything else than halfway decent live action sequences galore. AvP didn't have those either, quick cuts are no replacement for decent coreography. First positive reactions to this and a prior trailer seem to come from the fact that "OMG there's real blood now!". AvP was a PG13. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Look, Mr. Bubbles...! Last edited by samIamsad; 12-13-2007 at 09:37 AM.

12-14-2007, 10:03 PM	#16
SamandMax A Slice of Fried Gold Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,024	Wow, I have no recollection of making this thread. But as much as I hated Alien vs. Predator (which as you can tell was a lot) I'm going to give the second one a chance, there's the smallest sliver of chance that they can actually pull it off and make a decent movie. It'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised by it. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ SamandMax's Recommended Songs Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball They Might Be Giants - Dog Walker The Kinks - Money Talks Gorillaz - DoYaThing

12-26-2007, 02:28 PM	#19
samIamsad capsized. Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,534	A vile, joyless, moronic, amateurish, numbing, unintentionally hilarious , and thorougly deseased motion picture... a middle-finger to the paying crowd. (Efilmcritic.com) A perfect example of how studio stupidity and fanboy obsession can ruin cinema. (Filmcritic.com) Despite what the harsher R-rating recommends, it's not really advisable that anyone OVER the age of 17 see this movie. (Metromix.com) We can only hope that the sub-title means that this money making farce is finally over. (Shocktillyoudrop.com) Oh the horror! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Look, Mr. Bubbles...!

12-26-2007, 02:38 PM	#20
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	What a surprise. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

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