[mycroft]

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And the greatest Metal guitarist of all time is...

Mr. Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath.

"He's essentially the guy that created most of the conventions for heavy metal," Tolinski said. Iommi's "shining moment" is the track "Warning" from the band's self-titled 1970 debut album, according to the poll.

I agree. Warning is a killer. I don't know about the shining moment, though. I kinda liked his stuff on Master of Reality a little better. It cannot be disagreed that Black Sabbath has had a tremendous influence on the metal genre. Actually, they invented it. With a little help from Led Zep and Deep Purple, of course. But the gloomy lyrics, the raw, crunchy sound that is the Sabbath trademark, is what others are following today. Iommi in the top spot is OK. But what follows in the list is not.

Here is the complete list...

1. Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
2. Kirk Hammett & James Hetfield (Metallica)
3. Angus & Malcolm Young (AC/DC)
4. Randy Rhoads (Ozzy Osbourne)
5. Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen)
6. Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
7. Dimebag Darrell (Pantera, Damageplan)
8. Zakk Wylde (Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society)
9. Adam Jones (Tool)
10. Kerry King & Jeff Hanneman (Slayer)
11. Dave Murray & Adrian Smith (Iron Maiden)
12. Jimi Hendrix
13. Glen Tipton & K.K. Downing (Judas Priest)
14. Ace Frehley & Paul Stanley (Kiss)
15. Slash (Guns N' Roses)
16. Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple, Rainbow)
17. Yngwie Malmsteen
18. Joe Perry & Brad Whitford (Aerosmith)
19. Dave Mustaine & Marty Friedman (Megadeth)
20. Chuck Schuldiner (Death)
21. Brian May (Queen)
22. Michael Schenker (Msg, Ufo)
23. Nigel Tufnel (Spinal Tap)
24. Jeff Beck
25. Tom Morello (Rage Against The Machine)
26. Head & Munky (Korn)
27. John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
28. Kim Thayil (Soundgarden)
29. Vivian Campbell (Def Leppard)
30. Daron Malakian (System Of A Down)
31. Scott Ian (Anthrax)
32. Tom G. Warrior (Celtic Frost)
33. Chris Degarmo & Michael Wilton (Queensryche)
34. C.C. Deville
35. Marten Hagström & Fredrik Thorndendal (Meshuggah)
36. Alex Lifeson (Rush)
37. Paul Gilbert (Mr. Big, Racer X)
38. Jerry Cantrell (Alice In Chains)
39. Mantas (Venom)
40. Jason Becker (Dave Lee Roth)
41. Phil Collen & Steve Clarke (Def Leppard)
42. Mikael Ã…kerfeldt & Peter Lindgren (Opeth)
43. Fast Eddie Clarke (Motorhead)
44. Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme)
45. Warren Demartini (Ratt)
46. Mick Mars (Motley Crue)
47. George Lynch (Dokken)
48. Ted Nugent
49. Jake E. Lee (Ozzy Osbourne, Badlands)
50. Rudolf Schenker & Uli John Roth (Scorpions)
51. Oystein "Euronymous" Aarseth (Mayhem)
52. Scott Gorham & Brian Robertson (Thin Lizzy)
53. Steve Vai (Dave Lee Roth)
54. Reb Beach (Winger, Dokken)
55. Trey Azagthoth (Morbid Angel)
56. John Sykes (Thin Lizzy, Blue Murder)
57. Hank Shermann & Michael Denner (Mercyful Fate)
58. Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi)
59. Jon Donais & Matt Backhand (Shadows Fall)
60. Stephen Carpenter (Deftones)
61. Alex Skolnick & Eric Peterson (Testament)
62. Brian Tatler (Diamond Head)
63. John Christ (Danzig)
64. Scott "Wino" Weinrich (The Obsessed)
65. Pepper Keenan & Woody Weatherman (C.O.C.)
66. Tommy Victor (Prong)
67. Leslie West (Mountain)
68. Vernon Reid (Living Colour)
69. Glen Buxton & Michael Bruce (Alice Cooper)
70. Bjorn Gelotte & Jesper Stromblad (In Flames)
71. Jim Matheos (Fates Warning)
72. Gary Holt & Rick Hunolt (Exodus)
73. Donald Buck Dharma Roeser (Blue Oyster Cult)
74. Michael Amott (Arch Enemy)
75. Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
76. Andre Olbrich (Blind Guardian)
77. Joe Satriani
78. Frank Hannon & Tommy Skeoch (Tesla)
79. Ty Tabor (King's X)
80. Mark Morton & Will Adler (Lamb Of God)
81. Dino Cazares (Fear Factory)
82. Pete Townshend (The Who)
83. Jon Schaffer (Iced Earth)
84. Timo Tolkki (Stratovarius)
85. Neil Young
86. Abbath Doom Occulta (Immortal)
87. Kai Hansen (Gamma Ray)
88. Uffe Cederlund & Alex Hellid (Entombed)
89. Leigh Stephens (Blue Cheer)
90. Jim Martin (Faith No More)
91. Michael Romeo (Symphony X)
92. Bill Steer (Carcass)
93. Piggy (Voivod)
94. Tony Bourge (Budgie)
95. Sammy Hagar (Van Halen)
96. Alexi Laiho (Children Of Bodom)
97. Akira Takasaki (Loudness)
98. Michael Angelo
99. John Kay & Michael Monarh (Steppenwolf)
100. Nick Bowcott (Grim Reaper)

I can't even begin to iterate what is wrong with this list.
First of all, there are some names here...good guitarists, talented and all, but not what I would call metal. This is a big mistake. I see the obscurity involved in judging whether a Hard-Rock band like Guns 'n Roses should be considered as a metal band...but Queen ???

Hammett and Hetfield at number 2. Hmm...'Twould be wrong to say that they had no influence on the genre. I think they deserve a spot in the top 10. I don't know about No. 2, though.

I've never liked AC/DC...so No. 3 is a bit too high. I don't think people regard them as Metal even.

Nice to see good old (Late) Randy Rhoads recognised after all this time. He deserves the top spot.

Eddie Van Halen at No.5. Hmm...I'm begining to realise the basis of this compilation. Old guitarists who have had an influence on the genre. I disagree with this spot though. He is a nice guitarist and all, but no.

Page at 6. No, he deserves higher. Especially since their music was what coined the term heavy metal.

Dimebag at No.7. Eck...here is where it gets bad.

Zakk Wylde is NOT top 10 material. Sheeeesh. To think of all the names that could've been included instead of his makes my mind boggle.

Kerry and Jeff at 10. Hmm....agreed. They did do some nice stuff. and you can recognise a Slayer riff when you hear it.

Dave and Adrian at number 11 ??!!? Damn you guitar-world !! Damn you to hell. These guys are the very definition of innovative. And as for influential, I have never seen more Tribute bands and Covers of any other musician except possibly the Beatles as I have of Iron Maiden. They've been doing stuff since the late 1970s and have reinvented their music and sound as of the Brave New World album. These guys are musicians, they are composers. They deserve higher. Higher than any Zakk Wylde and Tool Guitarist Dammit.

Bah! I'm too upset to continue my bashing of this list.

However it is nice to see Jason Becker and Paul Gilbert on the list. They are relatively unknown, yet immensely talented. Good to see Mikael Ã…kerfeldt & Peter Lindgren recognised.

WTF ?? Alex Skolnick at 61. That's a real shame.

Sigh.

[remixor]

I don't have much to contribute. Jimmy Page and Brian May are my favorite guitarists on that list, but neither is particularly metal in the conventional definition of the word.

[Kolzig]

That's a bad list.

And guitarists can't be put on a Top 100 list.

It's kind of stupid to say who's better than the other, when there's so much great guitarists in the world.

And come on... Tolkki is higher than Michael Romeo,

Romeo should be in Top 50 at least, if that list would be a real ranking

[Ninja Dodo]

Jimmy Hendrix is excellent.

Anyway, since this, as you say, is more of a general guitar top 100... I vote K's Choice!

[Bastich]

I don't have time at the moment for a point by point of the list, but I have to make some clarifications as to what should be necessary to even be on the list.

a) You have to actually play guitar solos. If you can't do that, you aren't a guitarist.

b) You have to know more scales than pentatonic.

c) You need to know more than one key, and alternate tunings don't count.

That eliminates the majority of the list. Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the show! Move along now!!! Nothing to see here...

[Henke]

I must say, that list wasn't as bad as it could have been. The biggest complaint I have is why "Korn" and "System of a down" have their guitarists on 26 and 30 when they shouldn't even be allowed to be anywhere on that list. Of course Jimmy Page should have been much higher up. But other then that the list is pretty decent. I'm impressed.

[Pappapisshu]

quick glance...

Jimmy Page should've been higher up.
Tom Morello should've been higher up.
Robert Fripp shoud've been much higher up.
Michael Romeo should've been much higher up.

[Ninth]

Also, Ritchie Blackmore should be higher!
Not that I know the others, really...

[syntheticgerbil]

There's no mention of Buckethead...

[mycroft]

Originally Posted by syntheticgerbil

There's no mention of Buckethead...

Buckethead rules...
He's a good guitarist too...

[Ratt2004]

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1. Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
2. Kirk Hammett & James Hetfield (Metallica)
3. Angus & Malcolm Young (AC/DC)
4. Randy Rhoads (Ozzy Osbourne)
5. Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen)
6. Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
7. Dimebag Darrell (Pantera, Damageplan)
8. Zakk Wylde (Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society)
9. Adam Jones (Tool)
10. Kerry King & Jeff Hanneman (Slayer)
11. Dave Murray & Adrian Smith (Iron Maiden)
12. Jimi Hendrix
13. Glen Tipton & K.K. Downing (Judas Priest)
14. Ace Frehley & Paul Stanley (Kiss)
15. Slash (Guns N' Roses)
16. Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple, Rainbow)
17. Yngwie Malmsteen
18. Joe Perry & Brad Whitford (Aerosmith)
19. Dave Mustaine & Marty Friedman (Megadeth)
20. Chuck Schuldiner (Death)
21. Brian May (Queen)
22. Michael Schenker (Msg, Ufo)
23. Nigel Tufnel (Spinal Tap)
24. Jeff Beck
25. Tom Morello (Rage Against The Machine)
26. Head & Munky (Korn)
27. John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
28. Kim Thayil (Soundgarden)
29. Vivian Campbell (Def Leppard)
30. Daron Malakian (System Of A Down)
31. Scott Ian (Anthrax)
32. Tom G. Warrior (Celtic Frost)
33. Chris Degarmo & Michael Wilton (Queensryche)
34. C.C. Deville
35. Marten Hagström & Fredrik Thorndendal (Meshuggah)
36. Alex Lifeson (Rush)
37. Paul Gilbert (Mr. Big, Racer X)
38. Jerry Cantrell (Alice In Chains)
39. Mantas (Venom)
40. Jason Becker (Dave Lee Roth)
41. Phil Collen & Steve Clarke (Def Leppard)
42. Mikael Ã…kerfeldt & Peter Lindgren (Opeth)
43. Fast Eddie Clarke (Motorhead)
44. Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme)
45. Warren Demartini (Ratt)
46. Mick Mars (Motley Crue)
47. George Lynch (Dokken)
48. Ted Nugent
49. Jake E. Lee (Ozzy Osbourne, Badlands)
50. Rudolf Schenker & Uli John Roth (Scorpions)
51. Oystein "Euronymous" Aarseth (Mayhem)
52. Scott Gorham & Brian Robertson (Thin Lizzy)
53. Steve Vai (Dave Lee Roth)
54. Reb Beach (Winger, Dokken)
55. Trey Azagthoth (Morbid Angel)
56. John Sykes (Thin Lizzy, Blue Murder)
57. Hank Shermann & Michael Denner (Mercyful Fate)
58. Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi)
59. Jon Donais & Matt Backhand (Shadows Fall)
60. Stephen Carpenter (Deftones)
61. Alex Skolnick & Eric Peterson (Testament)
62. Brian Tatler (Diamond Head)
63. John Christ (Danzig)
64. Scott "Wino" Weinrich (The Obsessed)
65. Pepper Keenan & Woody Weatherman (C.O.C.)
66. Tommy Victor (Prong)
67. Leslie West (Mountain)
68. Vernon Reid (Living Colour)
69. Glen Buxton & Michael Bruce (Alice Cooper)
70. Bjorn Gelotte & Jesper Stromblad (In Flames)
71. Jim Matheos (Fates Warning)
72. Gary Holt & Rick Hunolt (Exodus)
73. Donald Buck Dharma Roeser (Blue Oyster Cult)
74. Michael Amott (Arch Enemy)
75. Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
76. Andre Olbrich (Blind Guardian)
77. Joe Satriani
78. Frank Hannon & Tommy Skeoch (Tesla)
79. Ty Tabor (King's X)
80. Mark Morton & Will Adler (Lamb Of God)
81. Dino Cazares (Fear Factory)
82. Pete Townshend (The Who)
83. Jon Schaffer (Iced Earth)
84. Timo Tolkki (Stratovarius)
85. Neil Young
86. Abbath Doom Occulta (Immortal)
87. Kai Hansen (Gamma Ray)
88. Uffe Cederlund & Alex Hellid (Entombed)
89. Leigh Stephens (Blue Cheer)
90. Jim Martin (Faith No More)
91. Michael Romeo (Symphony X)
92. Bill Steer (Carcass)
93. Piggy (Voivod)
94. Tony Bourge (Budgie)
95. Sammy Hagar (Van Halen)
96. Alexi Laiho (Children Of Bodom)
97. Akira Takasaki (Loudness)
98. Michael Angelo
99. John Kay & Michael Monarh (Steppenwolf)
100. Nick Bowcott (Grim Reaper)

Grim Reaper was somewhat unknown, so it is good 2 c them on here. NE rap-Metal deserves to be knocked off here.

Hell, Hagar at 95??? BULLSHIT!!!! Try Top 30!!

Lynch deserves to be higher, same with Warren DeMartini.

Yngwie J. Malmsteen needs to be bumped up a few more spots, a near-Top 10 (11-12).

Iommi deserves to be #1.

Akira Takasaki at #97................at least SOMEBODY has heard of Loudness.

They need to add Tracii Guns DAMNIT!!!!

[mycroft]

Loudness is nice. Dream Fantasy is very good.

[flowerthief]

Akira Takasaki at #97................at least SOMEBODY has heard of Loudness.

Not to mention he's the only Japanese metal guitarist on the list! That in itself is just wrong.

[SamandMax]

I think Pete Townshend could be higher up, I don't believe two guys from Korn would be better than him.

[syntheticgerbil]

Hahhaha, I think that Ratt guy is only posting here because he found somewhere to talk about that list.

[Skinkie]

Don't get me wrong, I love Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page is often criticised for just beating his guitar and hoping something that sounded good would happen.

[remixor]

Originally Posted by Skinkie

Don't get me wrong, I love Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page is often criticised for just beating his guitar and hoping something that sounded good would happen.

Fortunately, it usually worked.

[KASHMIR]

John Kay & Michael Monarh (Steppenwolf) with Born To be Wild which opened Metal Era , ranks 99 , i think they can be ranked higher , Pete Townshend of The Who with My Gereration is also in the same case .

Oystein "Euronymous" Aarseth (Mayhem) ranks 51 while talents like Robert Fripp (King Crimson) ,Joe Satriani ,Neil Young ,Pete Townshend ranks after him .....what the hell they're doing ?

[Henke]

Originally Posted by Skinkie

Don't get me wrong, I love Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page is often criticised for just beating his guitar and hoping something that sounded good would happen.

You must be confusing him with Jimi Hendrix.

[Skinkie]

Fortunately, it usually worked.

Indeed.