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Old 03-01-2004, 08:28 AM   #41
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Like some others, my enthusiasm for LOTR peaked with Fellowship and hasn't fully recovered. Plus I'm sick of all the hype. But I think it's pretty obvious that ROTK was actually recognized as a sum total for the entire trilogy. Yes, I know the previous two won a few technical awards, but it sure seemed that the major hardware was being held back from the previous instalments. So I agree that a few other movies probably got screwed by going up against ROTK, but then I felt the previous two movies (or at least Fellowship) got the shaft from the Academy. I guess in a way it all balances out, except that Beautiful Mind should give its Oscar to Lost in Translation.

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Peter Jackson did a great job of coordinating all the various elements that were necessary to make films of this magnitude, but the actual direction of the movies was not revolutionary.
I agreed with most of what you said, but I think you're really underestimating the importance and difficulty of this task. Thinking of actual direction only as a technical/artistic role is too simplistic. Sure, it's the easiest way to judge the "skill" of a director, but it's anything but the only measure. The scope of the trilogy WAS groundbreaking from a directing perspective, and Jackson does deserve to be acknowledged for it.

Although I hate hypothetical questions, perhaps the best thing to ask of direction is if a film would have suffered much in the hands of another director. Actually, I ask the same thing about actors, who are often rewarded more for good roles and scripts.

As for Lost in Translation, it DID win best original screenplay, didn't it? That's a HUGE honour, and rewards what I consider to be the most integral (and unsung) aspect of any movie. Too bad about the actors, though.
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:53 AM   #42
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Here's in honor of the Lord of the Rings, the supertrailer in high quality about all the three movies

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Old 03-01-2004, 11:34 AM   #43
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I'm probably alone on this on these forums, but I'm kind of disappointed ROTK won that many awards. [snip]
Basically, these Oscar results were a big pile of crap for me.
I read here that ROTK won 11 oscars and I think that's a few too many, I'm with you remixor
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Old 03-01-2004, 12:18 PM   #44
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I agreed with most of what you said, but I think you're really underestimating the importance and difficulty of this task. Thinking of actual direction only as a technical/artistic role is too simplistic. Sure, it's the easiest way to judge the "skill" of a director, but it's anything but the only measure. The scope of the trilogy WAS groundbreaking from a directing perspective, and Jackson does deserve to be acknowledged for it.
I see your point but only partially agree. I still think the main achievement in direction was Jackson's technical coordination of the whole thing above all else. I realize that one should not really take a filmmaker's other works into account when judging a particular film, but in all honesty all of Jackson's prior directing was really nothing special, and it's hard for me to believe that he suddenly blossomed into some sort of genius director when he started working LOTR. I think that there were far too many instrumental people involved in this trilogy all specializing in particular things too give Jackson an award for his direction.
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Old 03-01-2004, 02:26 PM   #45
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I am with Remixor on this one 100%. Very disappointing results..
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Old 03-01-2004, 04:14 PM   #46
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Heh... I'm glad Nemo won, but probably not for the same reasons as everybody else
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Old 03-02-2004, 01:58 AM   #47
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But the best about Oscars was again Billy Crystal's great work as the host.

I loved the jokes he told, and the opening intro was just unbelievable, I was laughing all the time.

I'm putting this torrent link here, if you haven't watched the Oscar 2004 show, then watch this:

http://66.90.75.92/torrents/1300/76t...e.HDTV.torrent

It's unbeliavably good!

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Old 03-02-2004, 05:44 AM   #48
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I'm a bit less critical toward LOTR after actually seeing the third one. It's certainly the best of all 3 and it kind of deserved to won- even though some other movies this year deserved it just the same... or, in some sense, more- as i really think the main achievements of LOTR movies were of technical nature and not really movies as movies... too much of Hollywood summer blockbuster touch.

Btw, Remixor- i got completely psyched up over "The Triplets of Belleville" after seeing the short clips on Oscars... Beautiful, beautiful art direction! So the story is just as good? I have to see it!
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