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The fact that there are those who tend to believe that Global Warming is a huge Liberal, tree-hugging illusion with hidden agendas is actually good because it makes the Scientists look even deeper at the facts and come up with the results that can help benefit us all and future generations (I'm neither liberal or a tree-hugger btw, tried it once and it's nothing to bark about). Imagine if, when Pythagoras had claimed the Earth was a sphere 26 centuries ago, nobody had questioned his theories - future Scientists may never have looked with more depth into it. Even with the wealth of information available today, flat earth societies still exist believe it or not, regardless of all the evidence to the contrary compiled over those 26 centuries. Scientists have always been given a hard time by politicians and religious leaders to prove their theories - and so they should be. And one Scientist will always need the agreement of the vast majority of fellow Scientists on his theory before his theory can be taken as plausible. Scientists have to battle Politicians, Religious leaders, Corporations (all 3 of which have questionable agendas, little experience in the field and the potential to influence mass thought), as well as their fellows, to get their evidence eventually accepted. I'd rather believe the vast majority of Scientists any day than the other 3 groups. Science Fiction has the ability to decieve and nobody will care, Science Fact has to be able to stand the test of time by being proven or being discredited and forgotten. No Scientists wants to be discredited. Some Scientists, unfortunately, don't want to be forgotten and will go to any deceptive lengths to try to be famous, but always get found out eventually. This isn't about scare-mongering. Flyboy started this thread I believe with the intention of giving us all something to think about - something that if the Science fully backs it up, which much of it does, could have major negative effects on our children and grandchildren. I'm aware of it, I've read many of the facts and tried to sort out the junk from what appears valid - but I don't think about it enough. I'm sure many of us don't. As individuals we can't make the world a better place for all life and the planet. Maybe as a group we can't because nobody can say what the future holds (unless you believe Nostradamus). But better to try and fail than not to try at all. @undeaf - looks can be deceiving.
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Pun intended?
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Naturally.
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Some funny comic strips from the latest issue of Private Eye:
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The reason new orleans was wiped off the map was that it didn't belong on it in the first place. You don't normally see black dots in the light blue regions.
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So ... what you're saying is ... that subterran geologists aren't really scientists ... right? Cars for the rich only, now there's an idea. There would be all sorts of ways of doing that, gas taxes, huge insurance requirements for endangering motorcycle drivers, free public transit, tax breaks for motorcycles and bikes, etc. |
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At the very least, we should be taking environmantal protection steps that have significant general side benefits. Like doing something about throwaway electronics, making better insulated houses, avoiding TVs that run so hot they need loud fans, doing something about power hungry devices that would be counteracting air conditioners, and of course, more fuel efficient vehicles. If people refuse to do that, they're not just careless and lazy, they're also stupid.
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Global warming is just laughable, imo. This planet (and every planet) has been either warming or cooling from inception. Cyclical change is what shapes the environment. The environment then adapts and new and wonderful species are born, and some go extinct. Humans need to get over it. They are a cycle of time.
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Hey, I think I've been censored! I could be wrong, but I seem to remember calling this thread "That's it, we've gone and fucked it ..." not "screwed it up." There's swearing all over these forums, why change this?
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Hardly. Regardless, there is a difference between occasional rude word to emphasize your point or emotional state, and putting one in the title of the thread.
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I apologize if I upset people by swearing, but I try to write the way I speak and I tend to be around people who couldn't care less. In fact I've never really known anyone who is offended by the occasional "rude word", unless of course it's directed at them (which is another story altogether). Depending on the context, "fuck" and "shit" can be two words just like any other. |
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I'd love to see Erwin assembling flat-pack furniture.
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Fanboy > fuck > bitch/faggot > asshole/crackhead/horseshit > shit/goddamn > damn/bastard. At least that's how I understand swearing unacceptedness roughly ranks.
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The Sacramento delta region is at a very high risk of the same thing. Many old levees in danger of breaking and the all of the new building in the area near levees means a lot of people at risk should a levee break happen. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11427817/ Levee breaks have happened already: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGP3EFPAJ1.DTL In response to rlpw's statement that scientists need to completely prove their work - yes they do but it's a constant process. As you hypothesize, set up experiments to prove or disprove said hypothesis, more questions typically get raised and new information is always learned. If you wait for that definitive paper and definitive proof, nothing will ever happen. You have to act with the information you have. There's the chance that things may change. But I think it's important to look at the information that is out there now and work with that. |
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So there's one other place that's in a situation sort of as bad as new orleans, so what? Even if it repeats itself, it's not a natural disaster in the first place, it's an engineering disaster. |
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