Superman Returns in theaters now! - Page 3

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-30-2006, 02:17 PM

Really? He used to be evil? F*** that's hot!

Kolzig · 07-01-2006, 06:18 AM

http://video.google.com/supermanreturns.html

Google gives us magic.

MoriartyL · 07-01-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Muzzy

Would he be more interesting if I told you he was created by Jewish guys as a positive spin on Nietzsche's Ubermensch idea?

Not really... Actually, not at all. Which part of this brief history lesson makes the character the slightest bit interesting?

Maquisard · 07-01-2006, 01:29 PM

Maybe not the character, but I thought his origin was interesting.

MoriartyL · 07-01-2006, 01:45 PM

Eah, I'm not into history. [shrugs] What matters to me is that the character is a total bore, and that'd still be the case even if the first Superman comic book had descended from the planet Krypton.

Toefur · 07-02-2006, 02:42 AM

Superman has human emotions, and goes through similar emotive turmoils, that most people should be able to relate to.

MoriartyL · 07-02-2006, 05:19 AM

If you say so.

Kolzig · 07-02-2006, 11:54 AM

Superman Returns Earns $84.3M in Five Days
Source: Box Office Mojo

ComingSoon.net reports that Superman Returns has reached $84.3 million domestically in its first five days:

After grossing over $32 million on Wednesday and Thursday, Warner Bros' Superman Returns was able to top the weekend with approximately $52.1 million in over 4,000 theatres, an average of $12,829 per theatres. Its total of $84.3 million in five days exceeded that of Batman Begins and Peter Jackson's King Kong in their first five days, but it's pretty disappointing compared to the $200 million plus price tag it cost to tell the Man of Steel's latest adventure. It wil hope to build on any word-of-mouth in the next few days before Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest takes over next weekend.

The movie is making some good money.

One thing that I will never understand is this moaning that the movie is a failure in the box office, wth?

It will make 2x the money worldwide compared to what it makes only in USA. And that 84.3 million is only after the first five days, the movie will be in circulation for several weeks so it will still make huge amounts of money for WB...

MoriartyL · 07-02-2006, 12:16 PM

This is Hollywood we're talking about here- the difference between $90 million dollars and $92.5 million dollars is the sort of thing that keeps executives up at night.

Once A Villain · 07-02-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolzig

Superman Returns Earns $84.3M in Five Days
Source: Box Office Mojo

ComingSoon.net reports that Superman Returns has reached $84.3 million domestically in its first five days:

After grossing over $32 million on Wednesday and Thursday, Warner Bros' Superman Returns was able to top the weekend with approximately $52.1 million in over 4,000 theatres, an average of $12,829 per theatres. Its total of $84.3 million in five days exceeded that of Batman Begins and Peter Jackson's King Kong in their first five days, but it's pretty disappointing compared to the $200 million plus price tag it cost to tell the Man of Steel's latest adventure. It wil hope to build on any word-of-mouth in the next few days before Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest takes over next weekend.

The movie is making some good money.

One thing that I will never understand is this moaning that the movie is a failure in the box office, wth?

It will make 2x the money worldwide compared to what it makes only in USA. And that 84.3 million is only after the first five days, the movie will be in circulation for several weeks so it will still make huge amounts of money for WB...

Personally, I can understand the disappointment. The movie has been estimated to cost around $250 million to make, and then you've got to toss in a $75-$100 million advertising budget. Worst case scenario (which isn't too far from WB's best case scenario) the film has to recoup $350 million before it can start making any sort of profit. Given the fact that opening weekend for big blockbusters like this represent close to 30% of the total box office (Superman made $52 million), AND that Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest is coming out this next weekend...Superman could very likely come to a halt around $200-$220 million in the U.S.

About four years ago when Men in Black II came out on this same weekend, it did surprisingly similar business to Superman. $52.1 million for the Friday-Sunday period, and $87.2 million for the Wednesday-Sunday period. Superman had a $52.2 million Friday-Sunday, and a $84.2 million Wednesday-Sunday. And guess what Men in Black II ended its box office run at? $190 million.

Also, the movie has already been released in many overseas markets and has only made $19 million so far. Now sure, when the worldwide totals are in, WB will probably make back their money and may even make a profit. But not much of one at all... Superman Returns will probably never be considered "a hit" and will most likely be considered a box office disappointment. Studios want to make money, they don't want to just break even.

Kolzig · 07-02-2006, 01:35 PM

But then there are always the dvd sales?

Dasilva · 07-02-2006, 01:49 PM

People say that theres nothing we haven't seen before in past Superman movies, so its basicly Superman crying with the same moves?

MoriartyL · 07-02-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolzig

But then there are always the dvd sales?

No one seriously believes it won't make its money back. But it's not about just making money- it's about making as much money as they promised their investors.

Spiwak · 07-02-2006, 02:55 PM

I guess Superman just isn't a superhero for the masses anymore. I'm sure that picking a relative nobody as Superman didn't help either.

Kingzjester · 07-02-2006, 03:41 PM

When Moneky Island comes to the theatres next week it will pwn Superman's plastic ass.

*Melanie68* · 07-02-2006, 03:44 PM

ahhh, Johnny!

Jatsie · 07-02-2006, 03:57 PM

Gotta love that eyeliner.

They should really write a scene where he makes out with Orlando Bloom, screw Keira Knightley. I know she looks like a boy, but it's just not the same.

Maquisard · 07-02-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiwak

I'm sure that picking a relative nobody as Superman didn't help either.

Christopher Reeve was a nobody before Superman. I think it's vital to have a face which, when people see, they say: "Look, it's Superman!", as opposed to "Look, it's Nicolas Cage!", or whatever. I think Brandon Routh was a good choice. The movie itself, on the other hand, was underwhelming, even as an IMAX 3d experience.

Spiwak · 07-02-2006, 04:38 PM

I never said it hurt the movie. It didn't help either. Sometimes relative nobodies are fine enough (see, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in the first X-Men) but generally speaking it's to the studio's best interests to have an actor that actually attracts audiences. Especially when you're talking about a movie that need to gross over $200 million.

Sage · 07-02-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jat316sob

Gotta love that eyeliner.

They should really write a scene where he makes out with Orlando Bloom, screw Keira Knightley. I know she looks like a boy, but it's just not the same.

When you're right, you're right. A make-out scene between Superman and Lex Luthor would certainly add depth and interest to Superman's character.

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07-01-2006, 06:18 AM	#42
Kolzig The Reggienator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vaasa, Finland Posts: 5,519	http://video.google.com/supermanreturns.html Google gives us magic. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "The old standby, that never got old in the first place. We come back to them weekly, nightly, for hours at a time--and they always deliver. They are pure, timeless, and often taken for granted." - Nick Breckon - Shacknews My gamesale list updated 26.8.2007 Hey, dear people please buy my games, I need money to conquer Europe! Or do something similar.

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07-01-2006, 01:45 PM	#45
MoriartyL Not like them! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 2,570	Eah, I'm not into history. [shrugs] What matters to me is that the character is a total bore, and that'd still be the case even if the first Superman comic book had descended from the planet Krypton. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ -Mory My first game My second game My third game

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07-02-2006, 11:54 AM	#48
Kolzig The Reggienator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vaasa, Finland Posts: 5,519	Superman Returns Earns $84.3M in Five Days Source: Box Office Mojo ComingSoon.net reports that Superman Returns has reached $84.3 million domestically in its first five days: After grossing over $32 million on Wednesday and Thursday, Warner Bros' Superman Returns was able to top the weekend with approximately $52.1 million in over 4,000 theatres, an average of $12,829 per theatres. Its total of $84.3 million in five days exceeded that of Batman Begins and Peter Jackson's King Kong in their first five days, but it's pretty disappointing compared to the $200 million plus price tag it cost to tell the Man of Steel's latest adventure. It wil hope to build on any word-of-mouth in the next few days before Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest takes over next weekend. The movie is making some good money. One thing that I will never understand is this moaning that the movie is a failure in the box office, wth? It will make 2x the money worldwide compared to what it makes only in USA. And that 84.3 million is only after the first five days, the movie will be in circulation for several weeks so it will still make huge amounts of money for WB... Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "The old standby, that never got old in the first place. We come back to them weekly, nightly, for hours at a time--and they always deliver. They are pure, timeless, and often taken for granted." - Nick Breckon - Shacknews My gamesale list updated 26.8.2007 Hey, dear people please buy my games, I need money to conquer Europe! Or do something similar.

07-02-2006, 12:16 PM	#49
MoriartyL Not like them! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 2,570	This is Hollywood we're talking about here- the difference between $90 million dollars and $92.5 million dollars is the sort of thing that keeps executives up at night. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ -Mory My first game My second game My third game

07-02-2006, 01:35 PM	#51
Kolzig The Reggienator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vaasa, Finland Posts: 5,519	But then there are always the dvd sales? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "The old standby, that never got old in the first place. We come back to them weekly, nightly, for hours at a time--and they always deliver. They are pure, timeless, and often taken for granted." - Nick Breckon - Shacknews My gamesale list updated 26.8.2007 Hey, dear people please buy my games, I need money to conquer Europe! Or do something similar.

07-02-2006, 01:49 PM	#52
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07-02-2006, 02:55 PM	#54
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07-02-2006, 04:38 PM	#59
Spiwak is not wierd Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,148	I never said it hurt the movie. It didn't help either. Sometimes relative nobodies are fine enough (see, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in the first X-Men) but generally speaking it's to the studio's best interests to have an actor that actually attracts audiences. Especially when you're talking about a movie that need to gross over $200 million. Share Share this post on Twitter

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