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Old 02-23-2006, 10:17 AM   #21
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Actualy I think they really do have that technology, the reason its set in Las Vegas is cause they are supposed to have the best crime Lab...or so I read somewhere
A lot of the stuff they do on those computers completely break the laws of physics. Things like taking blurry security cam footage and somehow making it as sharp as a photograph taken in perfect circumstances. It's all right in Blade Runner and Star Trek, but in CSI I'd rather they actually investigated the crimes instead of using magic to solve the cases.

Nice job with the ad hominem arguments, btw (not you, Karmillo)
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The thing with CSI isn't that it's unrealistic, it's that there are a lot of viewers out there who think it IS realistic.

No fault of the show, of course...
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A lot of the stuff they do on those computers completely break the laws of physics. Things like taking blurry security cam footage and somehow making it as sharp as a photograph taken in perfect circumstances. It's all right in Blade Runner and Star Trek, but in CSI I'd rather they actually investigated the crimes instead of using magic to solve the cases.
As far as i can tell image enhancement does exist, but your right not as much as they can zoom in miles and have it crystal clear
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Whats ad hominem
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Old 02-23-2006, 10:50 AM   #24
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Perhaps in 23rd century Star Trek they could do that, but not now, or in 20 years from now The guy who invents that will be rich (who'd need 1+ megapixel cameras when you can just enlarge and enhance the image to infinity ). Karmillo, an ad hominem argument is directed towards the person rather than being factual or 'rational' or relating to the discussion at hand, or something.
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Yeah, jjacob.

They can enhance images, sort of. You can make images look sharper, but if the original picture is not sharp enough to show that pimple on that guys forehead, no algorithm can get that pimple to show since the original image simply didn't have that information.
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Who done the ad homonem?

and like krid says, if it was too realistic it would be boring, besides the stuf about how the people die is true...right?
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Old 02-23-2006, 12:02 PM   #27
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I like CSI (as opposed to loving it, which I did at the beginning of its run), and I agree with those of you who say that the criticism it gets is mostly undeserved. Yeah, many things that happen there are exaggerated, and some even downright impossible - but name me one other investigation show that actually teaches you some scientific facts on regular basis? Of course the decision to disregard any laws of logics and physics, like many police dramas do, is an easier way to go. But CSI chooses to actually have some serious grounding in facts more often than not - which doesn't mean it promises to be 100% accurate (obviously I don't know how it is advertised in other countries, but here I've never seen it referred to as super-realistic).
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Old 02-23-2006, 01:02 PM   #28
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I think there's only one other show which comes close to CSI and that's NCIS, saw one episode once and it sucked. Just saying that there's not many competition - still it's not my kind of show, perhaps I just dislike the whole crime scene investigation bullcrap (IMO) theme
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NCIS is great. It's not into the science as much as CSI it's mostly the interplay between the vaious characters.

It can be very funny as well as serious.

I like NCIS.
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Wooow, the thread move made my posts an even 12 hundred

Now we can talk about sex...Did you know cathirine was a stripper!?
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And Jim Brass's daughter is a hooker!
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And the actors get naked and play dead!
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Theres been plenty of times where the killer has commited more murders while they were still investigating them, there was even one where the killer knew just as much about forensics as CSI and he got away, they brought him back in a later episode where he had taken a new identity and become a judge
I loved those ones. That "guy" was pretty tricky.
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I loved those ones. That "guy" was pretty tricky.
OHO! sneaky sneaky
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OHO! sneaky sneaky
Can't give away the plot completely you know.
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I love the original CSI, but I don't watch it for the science. I watch it because the mystery of the week is usually interesting and they have a GREAT cast with some hilarious and touching interactions. My favourite is when Liam is freaked out, like with the furries or when Catherine says something particularly racey.

As for the science, a lot of it is bullshit, but there is some use of logic on the show. The most ridiculous thing I think they do (besides the DNA test results in 3 seconds) is the zooming in of security tape or traffic violation photographs.

We have a real CSI show here in Canada, they profile the science behind past investigations. I want to say it's hosted by Graham Greene but I can't remember for sure.
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Hav a real CSI guy that works with them on the show. Its who Grissam is based on.
For some reason I seem to remeber them saying it was a woman csi that works on the show and Cathrines character(excluding the stripper part) was based on that woman, a quick google search details that in fact we're both right.


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Theres been plenty of times where the killer has commited more murders while they were still investigating them, there was even one where the killer knew just as much about forensics as CSI and he got away
Yeah, you reminded me of another reason for admiring this show. There is never a guarantee that the murderer will be caught at the end of the episode, or even identified for that matter. There were even numerous plots, where the "murder" turns out to be an accident or a suicide at the end. How many crime shows did use such endings (more than once or twice) before CSI? How's that for realism?
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For some reason I seem to remeber them saying it was a woman csi that works on the show and Cathrines character(excluding the stripper part) was based on that woman, a quick google search details that in fact we're both right.
Wow I never knew they had 2 working with them, dam little CSI mag didnt tell me that.
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