Final Fantasy: Advent Children

squarejawhero · 02-08-2006, 07:15 AM

Can someone explain to me why this film is good?

I watched about 3/4 of it, and aside from the visual invention and some natty action direction, it was frigging boring. I've even played the game it's a sequel too, and I didn't know what the hell was going on.

Waste. Of. Money.

Still, as part of my animation collection, it's got some nice stuff in it. To be fair.

Ninth · 02-08-2006, 08:45 AM

It's pretty and I had fun watching it.

I would say that such amazing visuals should have been used to serve a more interesting story, though.
Now, it could have been much much better, and as it is gets nowhere near great, or groundbreaking, but I would still call it pretty good, if only because I liked seeing FF7 characters again.

Starflux · 02-08-2006, 09:59 AM

I thought it was nice, nothing more. As some may know, my loathing of the Final Fantasy horde of Acolytes extends deep, but I managed to like the film nonetheless. I didn't care much for the fighting scenes, but the dialogues were nice and weird. Because if anything, I do like vague eco-babbling about prophecies and destiny.

Always liked that.

Karmillo · 02-08-2006, 11:13 AM

Has the translated DVD been released in the US yet?

Dasilva · 02-08-2006, 11:19 AM

Advent Children just recently got released on DVD in the UK. Though I've seen clips. I've seen the older movie, that was fab.

SakSquash · 02-08-2006, 11:22 AM

I half enjoyed FFVII, got right up to the end and didn't finish it. Haven't played a FF since. Though, connecting players reguardless of platform is pretty exciting.

Karmillo · 02-08-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dasilva

Advent Children just recently got released on DVD in the UK. Though I've seen clips. I've seen the older movie, that was fab.

Its out here?

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Originally Posted by temporaryscars

I half enjoyed FFVII, got right up to the end and didn't finish it. Haven't played a FF since. Though, connecting players reguardless of platform is pretty exciting.

I was the exact same with 9

Dasilva · 02-08-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Karmillo

Its out here?

I was the exact same with 9

I lie. Its Due for release on 24/04/2006.

squarejawhero · 02-08-2006, 04:26 PM

I'm not saying the action scenes weren't fun... Tifa's victory music coming from the baddies mobile even made my cousin, who didn't play it, chuckle, but this movie really confused the crap out of me with bad storytelling and horrid direction. It seemed more an excuse for pretty images than a movie. Which is fair enough, but I like my pretty images to have reason... for me, it didn't even do what it was meant to do (just follow on from the toons) because it was so incoherent.

jjacob · 02-08-2006, 05:19 PM

Let me start off by saying I have never played a FF game, so it follows the "storyline" made no sense to me. Still, I got the impression that even a casual FF player wouldn't know what to make of this film's story. It had some nice visuals but nothing spectacular. I don't know why I even downloaded this movie (yes I did, I admit it, for shame. Hey, it's legal over here!

Had it been a good movie, I would've bought it on DVD)

squarejawhero · 02-08-2006, 05:39 PM

I guess I just don't like movies without any emotional resonance, otherwise it becomes an excuse for visuals. May as well be a bad pop movie... be damned those who say the music is good! Half the time it was deliberately, and poorly, out of synch with what was actually going on.

I played the game it was based on, and it made little sense to me too.

Ninth · 02-09-2006, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by squarejawhero

I played the game it was based on, and it made little sense to me too.

That's what I was about to say. Final Fantasy all always a tad obscure, so it's not a surprise that Advent Children seems a bit incoherent... But perhaps that's just us being stupid (or just not japanese enough

).

lostwolfe · 02-09-2006, 08:45 AM

take the "final fantasy seven:advent children" dvd, rip it to your hard drive. then go here and get the subtitles. now find something that'll allow windows media player [or your choice of player] to actually play the subtitles provided.

this is probably the only way "final fantasy seven:advent children" was remotely watchable for me. i tried with the original subtitles...this actually does the movie some justice.

02-09-2006, 02:45 PM

Do you know what's funny?

Spoiler:
Cloud dies.

You're probably going to highlight that without a second thought.

avatar_58 · 02-09-2006, 11:09 PM

I'm still waiting for this damn thing to come out here in Canada. I like animation like this and am a big fan of Final Fantasy (1-9 anyway...) so I'd like to see it. I'm not up for downloading bootlegs or dubbed versions....so I still have some wait ahead of me.

lostwolfe · 02-10-2006, 03:59 AM

avatar_58:
this is an "unofficial" set of subtitles.

if you've ever watched [and enjoyed] "mystery science theatre, three thousand" then - to stretch a bit - this is like that. it's worth watching like this for two reasons:

one:it's very funny.
two:if you'd never played "final fantasy" then this version at least doesn't make you feel as if you don't understand what's going on.

LeChimp · 02-10-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by squarejawhero

I'm not saying the action scenes weren't fun... Tifa's victory music coming from the baddies mobile even made my cousin, who didn't play it, chuckle, but this movie really confused the crap out of me with bad storytelling and horrid direction. It seemed more an excuse for pretty images than a movie. Which is fair enough, but I like my pretty images to have reason... for me, it didn't even do what it was meant to do (just follow on from the toons) because it was so incoherent.

That sorta sounds like it describes every FF game. The story in all of the games has been shit yet there's thousands of 14 year olds who claim that they have the most beautiful story ever and go on and on about how they cried when Aeris died, even though she wasn't even a major character.

Tobbe · 02-15-2006, 06:10 AM

So, what is the plot in FF:AC, I´ve played FF7, and replaying at the moment, does the movie continue where the game ended?

Tanukitsune · 02-15-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by squarejawhero

Can someone explain to me why this film is good?

I watched about 3/4 of it, and aside from the visual invention and some natty action direction, it was frigging boring. I've even played the game it's a sequel too, and I didn't know what the hell was going on.

Waste. Of. Money.

Still, as part of my animation collection, it's got some nice stuff in it. To be fair.

So it's just like their games, empty eye candy?

squarejawhero · 02-15-2006, 12:28 PM

The movie kind of randomly picks up a point, has some "pretty scenes" set up with bad scripting and acting, throws in some really random music and excuses to fight with meetings out of the blue, leaves you guessing for ages as to what the hell's going on (you can't even tell if some black cat beasts are conjured or just there at one point) and who's who, then chucks all the characters back from the game for no apparent reason... and everyone uses cellphones... it's terrible.

02-08-2006, 07:15 AM	#1
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	Final Fantasy: Advent Children Can someone explain to me why this film is good? I watched about 3/4 of it, and aside from the visual invention and some natty action direction, it was frigging boring. I've even played the game it's a sequel too, and I didn't know what the hell was going on. Waste. Of. Money. Still, as part of my animation collection, it's got some nice stuff in it. To be fair. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

02-08-2006, 08:45 AM	#2
Ninth Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Paris, France Posts: 6,409	It's pretty and I had fun watching it. I would say that such amazing visuals should have been used to serve a more interesting story, though. Now, it could have been much much better, and as it is gets nowhere near great, or groundbreaking, but I would still call it pretty good, if only because I liked seeing FF7 characters again. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ ...It's down there somewhere. Let me have another look.

02-08-2006, 09:59 AM	#3
Starflux A Servicable Villain Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the ocean spire Posts: 1,730	I thought it was nice, nothing more. As some may know, my loathing of the Final Fantasy horde of Acolytes extends deep, but I managed to like the film nonetheless. I didn't care much for the fighting scenes, but the dialogues were nice and weird. Because if anything, I do like vague eco-babbling about prophecies and destiny. Always liked that. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Visit my webcomic Captain August!

02-08-2006, 11:13 AM	#4
Karmillo woof Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NOT REALLY RIGHT HERE Posts: 4,750	Has the translated DVD been released in the US yet? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "I've got nothing to lose! Except for...well everything."

02-08-2006, 11:19 AM	#5
Dasilva Hitch-Hiker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Mediterranean Sea Posts: 4,364	Advent Children just recently got released on DVD in the UK. Though I've seen clips. I've seen the older movie, that was fab. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Regards, DaSilva "If you don't get out of the box you've been raised in, you won't understand how much bigger the world is." - Angelina Jolie _ <Susan falls through the floor and gets stuck> <Paco looks at her blankly> "Whats wrong with you?! Lassy would of had a firetruck here by now!" - Susan Mayer, Desperate Housewives

02-08-2006, 11:22 AM	#6
SakSquash Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Paltz...for now... Posts: 6,177	I half enjoyed FFVII, got right up to the end and didn't finish it. Haven't played a FF since. Though, connecting players reguardless of platform is pretty exciting. Share Share this post on Twitter

02-08-2006, 04:26 PM	#9
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	I'm not saying the action scenes weren't fun... Tifa's victory music coming from the baddies mobile even made my cousin, who didn't play it, chuckle, but this movie really confused the crap out of me with bad storytelling and horrid direction. It seemed more an excuse for pretty images than a movie. Which is fair enough, but I like my pretty images to have reason... for me, it didn't even do what it was meant to do (just follow on from the toons) because it was so incoherent. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

02-08-2006, 05:19 PM	#10
jjacob Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,771	Let me start off by saying I have never played a FF game, so it follows the "storyline" made no sense to me. Still, I got the impression that even a casual FF player wouldn't know what to make of this film's story. It had some nice visuals but nothing spectacular. I don't know why I even downloaded this movie (yes I did, I admit it, for shame. Hey, it's legal over here! Had it been a good movie, I would've bought it on DVD) Share Share this post on Twitter

02-08-2006, 05:39 PM	#11
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	I guess I just don't like movies without any emotional resonance, otherwise it becomes an excuse for visuals. May as well be a bad pop movie... be damned those who say the music is good! Half the time it was deliberately, and poorly, out of synch with what was actually going on. I played the game it was based on, and it made little sense to me too. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

02-09-2006, 08:45 AM	#13
lostwolfe the short, bearded guy Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: cape town, south africa Posts: 170	advent children:alternate subtitles. take the "final fantasy seven:advent children" dvd, rip it to your hard drive. then go here and get the subtitles. now find something that'll allow windows media player [or your choice of player] to actually play the subtitles provided. this is probably the only way "final fantasy seven:advent children" was remotely watchable for me. i tried with the original subtitles...this actually does the movie some justice. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ [i hate myself for what i've become \| halo 5:6]

02-09-2006, 02:45 PM	#14
SamNMax Guest Posts: n/a	Do you know what's funny? Spoiler: Cloud dies. You're probably going to highlight that without a second thought. Share Share this post on Twitter

02-09-2006, 11:09 PM	#15
avatar_58 Sierra Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 797	I'm still waiting for this damn thing to come out here in Canada. I like animation like this and am a big fan of Final Fantasy (1-9 anyway...) so I'd like to see it. I'm not up for downloading bootlegs or dubbed versions....so I still have some wait ahead of me. Share Share this post on Twitter

02-10-2006, 03:59 AM	#16
lostwolfe the short, bearded guy Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: cape town, south africa Posts: 170	avatar_58: this is an "unofficial" set of subtitles. if you've ever watched [and enjoyed] "mystery science theatre, three thousand" then - to stretch a bit - this is like that. it's worth watching like this for two reasons: one:it's very funny. two:if you'd never played "final fantasy" then this version at least doesn't make you feel as if you don't understand what's going on. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ [i hate myself for what i've become \| halo 5:6]

02-15-2006, 06:10 AM	#18
Tobbe Living with my love Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 1,453	So, what is the plot in FF:AC, I´ve played FF7, and replaying at the moment, does the movie continue where the game ended? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ ''My names George. It means... Well, its just a name'' George Stobbart-Broken Sword

02-15-2006, 12:28 PM	#20
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	The movie kind of randomly picks up a point, has some "pretty scenes" set up with bad scripting and acting, throws in some really random music and excuses to fight with meetings out of the blue, leaves you guessing for ages as to what the hell's going on (you can't even tell if some black cat beasts are conjured or just there at one point) and who's who, then chucks all the characters back from the game for no apparent reason... and everyone uses cellphones... it's terrible. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

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