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Old 09-13-2006, 01:27 PM   #10861
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I think this calls for the only answer you ever need to pass yourself off as a true historian...

Not my period.
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:45 PM   #10862
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Allow me to remind you, Lacey, that the Luger was considered an antique during WWII. It was the German's official sidearm (along with the Mauser C96) during WWI. The P-38 Walther was the Kraut's official WWII sidearm.

Well, it still appeared a lot of times in "Indiana Jones Desktop Adventures", tucked away in boxes around Nazi or Bandit camps.

It was used by the Germans during both wars, and was only starting to be replaced by the start of World War II.


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True, and the ammunition it used was almost universally used considering, it was the ammo of the Sten, MP-38/40, P-38, to name a few. Regardless, the Luger was considered a souvenier on either side. They were, however, popular with German officers. As a matter of fact, the C96 was also rarely used as well, being even older than the P08 Luger. The reason that it was still in use can be attributed to the fact that German engineering is excellent, even better than Scottish or Swiss. In fact, by WWII even the Mauser K98 was an antique, having entered service in 1898.

Incidentally, the MG-42 was such a good gun that it's still used by the Wehrmacht today.


@Jazhara7: I suppose you're smarting from being part of a people that I just called "krauts"....
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:06 PM   #10864
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I remembered why I find learning about guns so boring.

Let's talk about Renaissance seige weaponry instead.
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@Jazhara7: I suppose you're smarting from being part of a people that I just called "krauts"....

No, I'm smarting from being the kind of person that reads an encyclopedia in her free time.

And if you dare calling me "Kraut", I dare calling you "kaq", which is one of the worse insults in my repertoire (which I rarely have to use, thank the gods).

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I remembered why I find learning about guns so boring.

Let's talk about Renaissance seige weaponry instead.

I agree, that's a much more interesting topic. There's a reason why I always found modern history boring. One war after another, hardly distinguisable from each other. Both had black and white photography, it seems. Ancient to Old history is much more interesting.


Oh, and I would like to talk about Archery!


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Old 09-13-2006, 03:10 PM   #10866
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I see what you did there. "Smart"...ing.

Not bad for a Kraut .

*flees, begging forgiveness*
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I see what you did there. "Smart"...ing.

Not bad for a Kraut .

*flees, begging forgiveness*

Don't worry, I know you don't mean it.

And have you ever tried Sauerkraut? It's really tasty. Especially Champagnerkraut ("Champaigne Kraut")

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MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*ahem*

Yes, you're right. I don't mean it... at all...
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:18 PM   #10869
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MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*ahem*

Yes, you're right. I don't mean it... at all...

That, and you're too good a friend to ever call you a "kaq".

It's really not a nice thing to say.


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Nonsense. I don't have friends .
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I wasn't. Nobody's that generous .
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I want to take up that offer, my role model shall be Wally from Dilbert.
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I want to take up the offer of Thread™-killing...

DIE, THREAD™!
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I thought we were going to chat on medieval siege weaponry. Why not discuss the ancient Bombard "Mons Meg" for a while? It's a fine example of medieval siege weapons. No, wait! Let's discuss Greek Fire. Can't get a better example of medieval siege weaponry than that! Maybe the kraut (excuse me, I meant jerry) even knows about that!
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I actually said "Renaissance". You know, the development of cannons that you could actually aim, the redesign of them from the traditional barrelling style to cast iron, the change in loading and the development of all kinds of hopelessly impractical tools for calculating trajectory...
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Ahh, you mean like Falconets? Or parrot-guns, like breech loaders? No, wait! You mean carronades! Or perhaps even Martini-Henrys!
HAHAHAHAHA! Surrender to my crushing superior knowledge of weaponry!!
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Let me get some sleep, and then I'll dig out my notes from last term.

Either way, probably not a falconet, since they're not breach-loading and don't sit on trunnions. I think.
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No, they usually sat on special frames that would move around for the purpose of aiming, making them horribly immobile.
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