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Old 07-22-2009, 10:01 AM   #37521
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Anyways, back to the riddle: it was a really long labor
I knew someone would say that.

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Or, between the children there was a switching of a calendar, so while the other brother was in fact older in the other calendar, they went back a few days before the birth of the second son and so he was actually according to the official time born two days earlier.
There was no changing of calendar reckoning in the above scenario (as in Julian to Gregorian). Neither twin's official birthdate has changed, and both twin's birthdays are always on the same respective dates every year.

However, a changing of dates is involved in the given scenario. (Hint hint. )
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OK, fellow smart people , see if you can figure this one out:

One day Bart celebrated his birthday. Two days later his older identical twin brother Art, celebrated his birthday. How come?
Art simply forgot and it was a belated celebration?

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Oh I don't know...
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The celebration part is actually irrelevant, the fact that Art is the older twin is important, though.
Are you sure you haven't got confused which one is older here?

If Bart was born on the 28 February and Art on the 1 March (labour occurring around midnight) then their birthdays would be two days apart in a leap year. Wrong way round according your assertion of which brother is older though.
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Are you sure you haven't got confused which one is older here?

If Bart was born on the 28 February and Art on the 1 March (labour occurring around midnight) then their birthdays would be two days apart in a leap year. Wrong way round according your assertion of which brother is older though.
You're really close to figuring this one out, step! Nope, there's no confusion... Art is indeed the older twin.
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You are correct, Art's birthday is 1 March and Bart's is 28 February. There is one more important factor that makes the given scenario possible (see above hint).
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Ah!
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International Date Line. Crossing it heading west would put you back a day if I recall correctly. I can't remember exactly where it is but I'm guessing some sort of cruise ship or the like would be involved.


That is enormously contrived though, don't you think?

For a different approach to riddles. Try this.
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I knew it had something to do with
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, I just didn't think of the
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Those aren't supposed to make sense, are they?

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Here's another thing that I so far haven't been able to figure out: Petals Around the Rose.
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Those aren't supposed to make sense, are they?
No. What it does is combine a random lateral thinking puzzle question with a random lateral thinking puzzle answer.

I don't know if it is set to never make a match or not.
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Ah!
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International Date Line. Crossing it heading west would put you back a day if I recall correctly. I can't remember exactly where it is but I'm guessing some sort of cruise ship or the like would be involved.

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You got it, step! It's actually the opposite direction, heading east across the Date Line puts you back a day.

Art was born on 1 March during a non-leap year. Art and Bart's mother was travelling eastwards across the Pacific Ocean (presumably by ship) when she was in labour. Bart was then born on 28 February, after their mom had crossed the International Date Line. So in a non-leap year, the twins' birthdays are only one day apart. However, during a leap year, 29 February is added. Therefore, in the given scenario (a leap year, of course), the younger Bart would celebrate his birthday two days before his older twin Art!

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That is enormously contrived though, don't you think?
Yep, I did say the solution was logical but contrived several posts ago.

Maybe we can start a puzzle and brain teasers thread here in Chit Chat?
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