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Your mom is a preferable alternative to communism.
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The death of this Thread™ is a preferable alternative to anything.
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Even the Megadeth of the Thread™?
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Whatever.
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#33086 |
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The opposite of communism is libertarianism, not democracy.
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Well, no. Libertarianism is simply the belief in less intrusion by government; it isn't a full-fledged system of government like communism and democracy. If anything, democracy is a libertarian school of thought.
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what We're looking for is
Anarchy!!!! I personally am for a democratically elected republic. as opposed to to all these pseudo-elected one party systems that are just fronts for totalitarian governments and the "Do as I say or else!" oligarchies calling themselves "Peoples Republics". Last edited by rlpw; 01-06-2009 at 04:54 PM. |
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Yeah, but communism is more an ideology than a system of government.
Anyway, question. Do you see your own government as a perfect democracy? If so, how? If not, what is your idea of a perfect democracy?
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The US is not a Democracy. It is the aforementioned "democratically elected republic" I was talking about.
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I beg to differ. The United States is a constitutional republic.
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So unfortunately, for a perfect democracy/nation/society to work it would have to be comprised entirely of perfect, intelligent, benevolent, and reasonable people, who had no vestiges of greed, selfishness, ignorance, or corruption. A honey bee hive comprised of humans, really. Which is why I suspect we haven't seen a perfect government yet, or ever will. ![]() Strangely, I can't make any argument about a perfect government of any kind without citing the root of all problem as the fallablility of humans. Hmm. Last edited by Giligan; 01-06-2009 at 06:31 PM. |
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Couldn't you say pretty much the exact same thing about a perfect system of government based on communism, then?
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Hmmmmm. Can you show me a communist country that allows free and open dissent?
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Yes, you could. I guess the bottom line is that humans can't carry out any good idea without screwing it up.
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The whole 'free and open dissent' thing, though, is open to question. Surely meaningful opposition requires an equal footing, and dissenting voices in America are totally marginalized in the press. Only where they cannot be controlled are they available. Yes, you can say things in the the States that you could not say in Soviet Poland, but only when it doesn't matter.
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Not having to listen to another's ideology is a freedom unto itself. Most ideologies that are marginalized are not listened to for a reason. I for one do not think that I should be forced to listen to listen to a Supremacist group of any kind. I defend their right to there ideology but it doesn't mean I have to listen or that the press has a moral obligation to give "Equal Time". (Hmmmm. death by political discussion.) |
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Does not.
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Heh.
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