AG Burnout 2003

*Jake* · 12-06-2003, 10:26 PM

I'm so tired of adventure games. After numerous months of not playing a new adventure game but instead playing quite a few other current games, and then finally breaking out the Broken Sword series this week for the first time, I became sad. Why am I using a dart to jimmy the lock of a cabinet? And really, BS3 was a huge hype machine for months and months, and now after playing it for a bit and reflecting on it... retro-warmth it generated aside, it is a frustrating game that does very little new, and in all honesty makes pretty poor use of the technology it's built on. It's a bit of a letdown, and has sort of put things in perspective for me in terms of the world of the adventure game. Maybe in a few months I'll care, or maybe I'll be doing what most people around here seem to have figured out months or years ago and just leave or hang out more than I should in Chit Chat. I am so burned out on these games. It's frustrating, and kind of sad.

Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? Hopefully this post is not a waste of everyones time

(I know this post is about adventure games, but since you're all tricked and it's not actually about adventure games but instead about sorrow, it seemed more chit-chattey)

remixor · 12-06-2003, 10:27 PM

Well, you already know how I feel about it, but suffice to say in general I must agree.

Starflux · 12-06-2003, 10:32 PM

Now that you mention it... well, I still like ags ^__^ but I don't think this feeling is true for everyone, as soon as they've ventured into other genres. It just depends on what your expectations were. It's not as if the genre itself is a "lower genre" that has surpassed it's lifespan... or is it?

remixor · 12-06-2003, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Flux

It's not as if the genre itself is a "lower genre" that has surpassed it's lifespan... or is it?

I hope not, but I do feel that it's passed its prime.

Erwin_Br · 12-06-2003, 10:53 PM

Isn't it weird to be burned out on adventure games in a time we don't see much of those? I mean, you probably played a lot more adventure games between 1990 and 1998.

I don't think you're burned out, just disappointed and tired of getting your hopes up. But then again, I'm not Dr. Phil.

--Erwin

*Jake* · 12-06-2003, 11:07 PM

You're probably correct, Erwin. All I'd like to see is a modern adventure game done right, but after BS3 I've sort of decided that that won't happen, at least in the forseeable future, so it's probably time to stop caring

Curt · 12-06-2003, 11:40 PM

Maybe if we let our guard down and stop caring so much something will come along that completely surprises. I refuse to give up hope - I truly believe that a future classic will come along when we least expect it.

I've now waited 22 years for Aston Villa to win the English League. Prior to that fans had to wait 71 years following a 20 year spell when they pretty much dominated English football - but many fans still kept following, supporting, hoping, despite all the low points - and eventually it happened. Birmingham City fans on the other hand.............

Er, anyway, that's the only analogy I could come up with. The adventure genre isn't the Birmingham City of computer gaming, we just wish it was more the Manchester United than the Aston Villa.

OK, I've lost you all now..........

But just keep following, supporting and hoping and then one day maybe..... Just don't raise your hopes too high.

And my most humble apologies for this post.

Tamara · 12-07-2003, 12:24 AM

I'm disillusioned with them and have been for some time. But then you know that. In any case, I'm not really playing any games of any kind any more. Having a (gasp!) real life, plus studies, kind of put paid to that.

nordic_guy · 12-07-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tamara

I'm disillusioned with them and have been for some time. But then you know that. In any case, I'm not really playing any games of any kind any more. Having a (gasp!) real life, plus studies, kind of put paid to that.

That's a bit sad. I hope you find the time in the near future to sit down with a really good game and enjoy it! You can play games and have a life, you know.

Intrepid Homoludens · 12-07-2003, 02:16 AM

Jake, that's ironic that you wish to move away from adventures, because I'm rediscovering them in a new way. My move right now is away from violent games - FPSs, action/adventures with guns and platforming, etc. Because of my recent illness I found that playing adventure games helps me re-focus my mind and sharpen my concentration. I actually started using Uru as a kind of digital meditative space! I just load it up and take a stroll around my Relto or one of the available Ages, with the gorgeous views and the sounds 'all around' me. Of course, I plan on physically going on more meditative strolls soon, once I have enough strength.

Tamara · 12-07-2003, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nordic_guy

That's a bit sad. I hope you find the time in the near future to sit down with a really good game and enjoy it! You can play games and have a life, you know.

yeah, but not really play games and have a life and have a serious boyfriend and do well in your serious study ...

ragnar · 12-07-2003, 04:01 AM

Well, scrap your life and boyfriend, then.

Mattsius · 12-09-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Curt

OK, I've lost you all now..........

And my most humble apologies for this post.

No, actually you haven't lost all of us. I totally get what you're saying and it's as good an analogy as any. And no apology needed.

I totally understand why you might feel the way you do, Jake, and thankfully I haven't got to that stage yet and hopefully it won't happen at all.
I haven't played BS3 yet, but I'm still hoping for the best.

I'm still trying to have faith and hope for a new AG messiah to come along and I'm pretty sure that one will.........someday.

mycroft · 12-09-2003, 10:31 PM

I always try to avoid saturating myself on adventure games by diversifying into other genres.

I find that shooters like Quake3 which load pretty quick and provide 5-10 minutes of pure adrenalin rush work as a good antidote.

I have always tried to avoid the situation you describe Jake,by playing adventure games judiciously.I don't buy every adventure game that comes out.
I like to savour my adventure games,rather than finish them over the weekend.

I spent 2 months with Grim Fandango.The best two months of my life.

Garyos · 12-09-2003, 10:32 PM

Well, I've never been the biggest supporter of AGs anyway. I just watch it on TV occasionally, and hope in some vague way that they'll win. But I occasionally go to Season Finals and stuff like that, because I'd feel stupid if I didn't, and they're often fun to watch.

(In case youre not phsycic, I borrowed Curts football analogy. And don't worry, it still doesn't make much sense)

12-06-2003, 10:26 PM	#1
Jake The Dartmaster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Rafael, California Posts: 3,084	AG Burnout 2003 I'm so tired of adventure games. After numerous months of not playing a new adventure game but instead playing quite a few other current games, and then finally breaking out the Broken Sword series this week for the first time, I became sad. Why am I using a dart to jimmy the lock of a cabinet? And really, BS3 was a huge hype machine for months and months, and now after playing it for a bit and reflecting on it... retro-warmth it generated aside, it is a frustrating game that does very little new, and in all honesty makes pretty poor use of the technology it's built on. It's a bit of a letdown, and has sort of put things in perspective for me in terms of the world of the adventure game. Maybe in a few months I'll care, or maybe I'll be doing what most people around here seem to have figured out months or years ago and just leave or hang out more than I should in Chit Chat. I am so burned out on these games. It's frustrating, and kind of sad. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? Hopefully this post is not a waste of everyones time (I know this post is about adventure games, but since you're all tricked and it's not actually about adventure games but instead about sorrow, it seemed more chit-chattey) Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ When on the Internet, visit Idle Thumbs \| Mixnmojo \| Sam & Max.net \| Telltale Games "I was one of the original lovers." - Evan Dickens

12-06-2003, 10:27 PM	#2
remixor A search for a crazy man! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 3,987	Well, you already know how I feel about it, but suffice to say in general I must agree. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Chris "News Editor" Remo Some sort of Writer or Editor or Something, Idle Thumbs "Some comparisons are a little less obvious. I always think of Grim Fandango as Casablanca on acid." - Will Wright

12-06-2003, 10:32 PM	#3
Starflux A Servicable Villain Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the ocean spire Posts: 1,730	Now that you mention it... well, I still like ags ^__^ but I don't think this feeling is true for everyone, as soon as they've ventured into other genres. It just depends on what your expectations were. It's not as if the genre itself is a "lower genre" that has surpassed it's lifespan... or is it? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Visit my webcomic Captain August!

12-06-2003, 10:53 PM	#5
Erwin_Br Under pressure. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands Posts: 3,773	Isn't it weird to be burned out on adventure games in a time we don't see much of those? I mean, you probably played a lot more adventure games between 1990 and 1998. I don't think you're burned out, just disappointed and tired of getting your hopes up. But then again, I'm not Dr. Phil. --Erwin Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ > Learn more about my forthcoming point & click adventure: Bad Timing! > Or... Visit Adventure Developers: Everything about developing adventure games.

12-06-2003, 11:07 PM	#6
Jake The Dartmaster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Rafael, California Posts: 3,084	You're probably correct, Erwin. All I'd like to see is a modern adventure game done right, but after BS3 I've sort of decided that that won't happen, at least in the forseeable future, so it's probably time to stop caring Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ When on the Internet, visit Idle Thumbs \| Mixnmojo \| Sam & Max.net \| Telltale Games "I was one of the original lovers." - Evan Dickens

12-06-2003, 11:40 PM	#7
Curt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Englander in Munich Posts: 1,025	Maybe if we let our guard down and stop caring so much something will come along that completely surprises. I refuse to give up hope - I truly believe that a future classic will come along when we least expect it. I've now waited 22 years for Aston Villa to win the English League. Prior to that fans had to wait 71 years following a 20 year spell when they pretty much dominated English football - but many fans still kept following, supporting, hoping, despite all the low points - and eventually it happened. Birmingham City fans on the other hand............. Er, anyway, that's the only analogy I could come up with. The adventure genre isn't the Birmingham City of computer gaming, we just wish it was more the Manchester United than the Aston Villa. OK, I've lost you all now.......... But just keep following, supporting and hoping and then one day maybe..... Just don't raise your hopes too high. And my most humble apologies for this post. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "Of please! Looking at how sexy, beautiful, and womanly meg is, why the hell would anyone need Viagra?" - Intrepid Homosapiens sapiens (made her Valentines Day btw - you big romantic, Trep.)

12-07-2003, 12:24 AM	#8
Tamara Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 914	I'm disillusioned with them and have been for some time. But then you know that. In any case, I'm not really playing any games of any kind any more. Having a (gasp!) real life, plus studies, kind of put paid to that. Share Share this post on Twitter

12-07-2003, 02:16 AM	#10
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	Jake, that's ironic that you wish to move away from adventures, because I'm rediscovering them in a new way. My move right now is away from violent games - FPSs, action/adventures with guns and platforming, etc. Because of my recent illness I found that playing adventure games helps me re-focus my mind and sharpen my concentration. I actually started using Uru as a kind of digital meditative space! I just load it up and take a stroll around my Relto or one of the available Ages, with the gorgeous views and the sounds 'all around' me. Of course, I plan on physically going on more meditative strolls soon, once I have enough strength. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

12-07-2003, 04:01 AM	#12
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12-09-2003, 10:31 PM	#14
mycroft Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 693	I always try to avoid saturating myself on adventure games by diversifying into other genres. I find that shooters like Quake3 which load pretty quick and provide 5-10 minutes of pure adrenalin rush work as a good antidote. I have always tried to avoid the situation you describe Jake,by playing adventure games judiciously.I don't buy every adventure game that comes out. I like to savour my adventure games,rather than finish them over the weekend. I spent 2 months with Grim Fandango.The best two months of my life. Share Share this post on Twitter

12-09-2003, 10:32 PM	#15
Garyos AKA Morte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sigil Posts: 1,101	Well, I've never been the biggest supporter of AGs anyway. I just watch it on TV occasionally, and hope in some vague way that they'll win. But I occasionally go to Season Finals and stuff like that, because I'd feel stupid if I didn't, and they're often fun to watch. (In case youre not phsycic, I borrowed Curts football analogy. And don't worry, it still doesn't make much sense) Share Share this post on Twitter

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