[squarejawhero]

Discuss... and be honest.

Personally, I'm not into porn. Doesn't do anything for me. I can't see the harm in it though, although towards the edges of the industry and into the black market I'm sure there's stuff going on I don't wanna hear about. Stuff like water-sports... I mean, that's damaged... but its still within the border.

So, porn. Good, bad or both? Is it even healthy, or does it only add to an already damaged mind?

Notes - Let's not get into the whole degredation of women thing, as we could be talking about the pornography created for women too. This is possibly more about morality, but lets not force our ideologies on others... and find out what people think.

[pinkgothic]

I share your opinion, mostly. I find literotica and sexy drawings a lot more appealing that videos or photos of real people. Note with sexy drawings I don't mean they have to neccessarily be nude, and the writing does not neccessarily have to involve intercourse or anything, I class the oddest things into literotica... sometimes completely nonsexual things... as a bad example because it's a movie, there's a scene in Schindler's List which is very, very electric. Those who've seen it might know what I mean. Anyway, I like the leeway of being able to imagine missing bits, so to speak.

But if people want to watch porn, let them. I see no harm in it. I just don't care for it myself.

[gillyruless]

I have seen my share of porn but it's to me nothing more than a masturbatory aid. I don't think I have ever seen porn just for the sake of watching it. I do feel a bit guilty about the part about women getting exploited at times after watching porn though.

Interestingly, there are two separate schools of thoughts on porn/adult entertainment industry from the feminist perspective. The majority thought of course is that women are being turned into nothing more than sexual objects and being demeaned. But some feminists belive that porn industry can be actually empowering in some cases. At first, I thought this was bull but after watching documentary about a stripper, I'm not as sure as I used to be about the issue.

The documentary featured a beautiful stripper. She was very attractive and she said that her income is easily in the six figure range. Even though she has a psychology degree from a fairly reputable college, she said that she will not be able to make not even one third of the income she gets from stripping. Stripping actually provides her with an opportunity to earn income that would be impossible for her to earn otherwise. Besides, she said that while on stage watching men who's completely enraptured by her gives her the sense of possession of control over men that she would probably never have outside of stripping. Those two things, economical opportunities and control over men, made her feel that stripping is actually empowering not demeaning. It might sound like nonsense when I say it with my writing here but she was quite intelligent and articulate and she almost sold me on the idea.

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[Gknight]

Originally Posted by gillyruless

I have seen my share of porn but it's to me nothing more than a masturbatory aid. I don't think I have ever seen porn just for the sake of watching it. I do feel a bit guilty about the part about women getting exploited at times after watching porn though.

Interestingly, there are two separate schools of thoughts on porn/adult entertainment industry from the feminist perspective. The majority thought of course is that women are being turned into nothing more than sexual objects and being demeaned. But some feminists belive that porn industry can be actually empowering in some cases. At first, I thought this was bull but after watching documentary about a stripper, I'm not as sure as I used to be about the issue.

The documentary featured a beautiful stripper. She was very attractive and she said that her income is easily in the six figure range. Even though she has a psychology degree from a fairly reputable college, she said that she will not be able to make not even one third of the income she gets from stripping. Stripping actually provides her with an opportunity to earn income that would be impossible for her to earn otherwise. Besides, she said that while on stage watching men who's completely enraptured by her gives her the sense of possession of control over men that she would probably never have outside of stripping. Those two things, economical opportunities and control over men, made her feel that stripping is actually empowering not demeaning. It might sound like nonsense when I say it with my writing here but she was quite intelligent and articulate and she almost sold me on the idea.

Stripping in itself is not wrong as long as they don't get involved in drugs or prostitution. I also believe women who pose for Playboy or other adult magazines are just doing it as a way to show off their bodies and nothing more.

[Dasilva]

Originally Posted by Gknight

Stripping in itself is not wrong as long as they don't get involved in drugs or prostitution. I also believe women who pose for Playboy or other adult magazines are just doing it as a way to show off their bodies and nothing more.

I have the same thoughts about playboy. Playboy is meerly skimpy dressed woman not porn.

Porn eh? We'll I think that porn opened doors to other wrong things such as child pornography, some parents force their children to do sexual acts so they record it and put it on the net, some people are that sick, I've read many stories about it.

I'm guessing that porn is really to help you get horny if you masturbate, I mean there are hotlines or something like that for people to talk to you to get horny, its almost the same as porn. I just grow tired of sying all those ads in magazines.

So porn? Good or bad? As long as you don't force porn on others, or show it to people unwillingly, and meerly use it on your own time by yourself, thats okay. But it depends on the porn to be honest.

[Dasilva]

Just to add to that, what are you're views on people having sex with animals? (a.k.a Animal porn?)

[seebaruk]

Not all porn is aimed at masturbation, there's some good porn out there for couples too, like the DVDs you can get from Ann Summers. They can give some good ideas for role play, positions, etc.

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Just to add to that, what are you're views on people having sex with animals? (a.k.a Animal porn?)

As far as bestiality porn goes, I think that's the other end of the scale, pure exploitation.

[saucyminx]

IMHO porn is really bad when it features things that shouldn't be the norm - like child pornography, for instance. And to answer Spitfire, personally I think it's unholy when someone has sex with animals. It's just wrong.

I don't have much comment, since I don't watch porn. And I've never really seen porn (except this weird spoof of Chinese kung fu movies in porn form - hilarious) and an accidental glance at a friend's Paris Hilton home-made porn (which is so ew since Paris reminds me of an ironing board). That being said, I couldn't care less about porn, since I'm already jaded with the naked human body. But honestly, I think it's normal for guys to watch porn. I mean, I for one would wonder if a guy claims he's never seen porn (unless if he is totally super religious, because I know a couple of guys like that). I guess I'm one of those girls who will not complain if her boyfriend is watching porn. But like Spitfire said, it all depends on what type of porn.

Both. I think porn is okay, but to me, it has to have some degree of class. I think Playboy does this best. Whereas something like a lot of those PPV pornos, or sometimes Hustler, are just sleazy.

[Dasilva]

I don't know if Mira would agree with me, but I would think that girls wouldent mind their boy friends looking at playboy type stuff, but they would object if they knew their boyfriend watched rape porn (girls being raped) or any hardcore porn, or animal porn. But thats the impression I get from girls.

And dont girls watch porn at all? Or do they have more control over their sexual urges.

[RLacey]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Just to add to that, what are you're views on people having sex with animals? (a.k.a Animal porn?)

Call me old-fashioned, but I just can't accept bestiality as anything other than wrong. And disgusting.

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[samIamsad]

All of the sudden an image of good ol' Bukowski is popping up in my head.



Ssssssh!

Can you hear it, too?




There!

Fump. Fump. Fump. Fump.



Mh.....what is bad, anyway?

[Dasilva]

Bad is a concept used to describe undesirable circumstances or events.

Though bad often is used to imply moral turpitude of a person, the term more specifically refers to an unfortunate circumstance. While bad is often used as a synonym for evil, bad can also refer to something flawed or unusable. The philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche made much of a distinction he drew in German between the böse, ("evil"), which he was prepared to admire, and the schlecht ("bad"), which he disdained; in Nietzsche's thought, evil was powerful, menacing, and dangerous; bad was weak and ineffective. In African-American vernacular English, and varieties of American English that have been influenced by it, bad or badass are frequently used as compliments, an example of rhetorical irony. "Badass" can also be used to describe a person prone to physical altercations.

Amusingly for English speakers, in Germany Bad (German for "bath") is a prefix for town names signifying a spa town, as in Bad Wörishofen or Bad Kissingen.

[seebaruk]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

And dont girls watch porn at all? Or do they have more control over their sexual urges.

I wouldn't say they have more control over their sexual urges, at least not in the UK!

I think that in general porn just turns women on less than men. Men are more turned on by sight, women turned on more by fantasy/imagination. That's just in general though of course.

[SakSquash]

[seebaruk]

You and me both bro!

[saucyminx]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Bad is a concept used to describe undesirable circumstances or events.

Though bad often is used to imply moral turpitude of a person, the term more specifically refers to an unfortunate circumstance. While bad is often used as a synonym for evil, bad can also refer to something flawed or unusable. The philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche made much of a distinction he drew in German between the böse, ("evil"), which he was prepared to admire, and the schlecht ("bad"), which he disdained; in Nietzsche's thought, evil was powerful, menacing, and dangerous; bad was weak and ineffective. In African-American vernacular English, and varieties of American English that have been influenced by it, bad or badass are frequently used as compliments, an example of rhetorical irony. "Badass" can also be used to describe a person prone to physical altercations.

Amusingly for English speakers, in Germany Bad (German for "bath") is a prefix for town names signifying a spa town, as in Bad Wörishofen or Bad Kissingen.

I have a headache!




Seebaruk has a point there. Generally, guys do get turned on by visual accounts and women are more susceptible to thoughts and imaginations and words. Why do you think that porns are made available to guys in video forms while most women read horny novels such as Harleyquinn romance? I remember my guy friend exclaiming this exact phrase when my girl friend showed him a passage from a romance book: "Hell, it's PORN!!!"

[pinkgothic]

Originally Posted by SamNMax

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