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Lucien21 10-25-2005 09:40 AM

Calvin & Hobbes Ressurrected ?
 
Snaffled this from JA+ (Thanks Petter)

Has Bill Watterson come out of retirement and started drawing under a pseudonym or is it just a homage.

The lead character of the Frazz looks like a grown up Calvin, the drawing is pretty similar as is the humour.

Check it out

http://www.comics.com/comics/frazz/a...5101104656.jpg

http://www.comics.com/comics/frazz/index.html

squarejawhero 10-25-2005 09:55 AM

No, it's not Watterson.

Lucien21 10-25-2005 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squarejawhero
No, it's not Watterson.

Any reason Why not

squarejawhero 10-25-2005 10:03 AM

It's simply not his line. Artists draw their cartoons to what they're comfortable with. Looking over the history of Calvin and Hobbes and how his art style changed to suit his shorthand, it'd be hard to believe he'd produce another regular strip in a seperate style with a sloppier approach to line and composition. Watterson is if anything a perfectionist. All the little things about this cartoon signal to me the work of another artist - it's simply not as professional as you'd expect from someone with his experience. The large snowy panel being a good indicator.

squarejawhero 10-25-2005 10:05 AM

Plus - http://www.comics.com/comics/frazz/h...k_signing.html

Lucien21 10-25-2005 10:05 AM

Fair enough.

To the untrained eye it looked kinda similar.

Ah well just someone influenced by Calvin then.

Shame:frown:

Maquisard 10-25-2005 11:49 AM

That's pretty cool. :)

stepurhan 10-25-2005 02:04 PM

Maybe not Calvin and Hobbes resurrected but I liked the sample enough to add it to my daily comics e-mail subscription. Thanks for the heads up Lucien21 (Still love the boogying Hobbes avatar by the way :D )

lumi 10-25-2005 06:24 PM

Calving and Hobbes are no longer.

http://students.washington.edu/mtwall/calvin6ra.jpg

Maquisard 10-25-2005 11:08 PM

That's a sad one. :frown:

Ninth 10-26-2005 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider Crusoe
Calving and Hobbes are no longer.

http://students.washington.edu/mtwall/calvin6ra.jpg

ARG!

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stepurhan 10-26-2005 05:10 AM

That is just so wrong! :frown: I'm going to have to go and read my collection again now to cheer myself up.

seebaruk 10-28-2005 02:52 PM

I don't even have my collection anymore, it's buried in my family's attic ;(

I feel an impulse buy coming on.

RLacey 10-28-2005 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider Crusoe
Calving and Hobbes are no longer.

http://students.washington.edu/mtwall/calvin6ra.jpg

That is, quite simply, beautiful.

Avinash_Tyagi 10-31-2005 07:08 PM

An interesting comic, but inherently flawed.

Even Watterson stated the existence of Hobbes was something even he couldn't answer, he did that on purpose, as he wanted to leave it open for self interpretation.

So having Hobbes turn into a stuffed animal at the end is totally contradictory to the tone of the series, and the person who cobbled this pic together should have realized that if they're a real fan of the series.

Also if anyone would be trying to get out of work it would be Calvin, Hobbes is the one who often tried to get Calvin to actually do his school work.

Also on a side note, for those who haven't obtained the entire series yet, or who are interested in this for their collection:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/074...books&v=glance

Yes ladies and gentlemen, its the complete Calvin and Hobbes series.

Maquisard 10-31-2005 07:30 PM

I was under the impression that that one was the real deal. How Hobbes turns into a stuffed animal at the end reflects a death of childhood of sorts, as brought on by ADD medication. I'd be interested to find out whether Watterson made this or not. Anyone knows for sure?

Melanie68 10-31-2005 07:54 PM

This was apparently the final Calvin and Hobbes published on Dec. 31, 1995:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...lastcalvin.gif

Here's an article on CNN.com on Oct. 24, 2005. :)

lumi 10-31-2005 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi
An interesting comic, but inherently flawed.

Even Watterson stated the existence of Hobbes was something even he couldn't answer, he did that on purpose, as he wanted to leave it open for self interpretation.

I think you're reading too much into a joke.

lumi 10-31-2005 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mares
I'd be interested to find out whether Watterson made this or not. Anyone knows for sure?

He didn't. Even if you didn't read every Calvin and Hobbes strip, you know it's a fake because of the poorly manipulated drawings and the joke itself.

Sage 10-31-2005 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi
An interesting comic, but inherently flawed.

Even Watterson stated the existence of Hobbes was something even he couldn't answer, he did that on purpose, as he wanted to leave it open for self interpretation.

So having Hobbes turn into a stuffed animal at the end is totally contradictory to the tone of the series, and the person who cobbled this pic together should have realized that if they're a real fan of the series.

Also if anyone would be trying to get out of work it would be Calvin, Hobbes is the one who often tried to get Calvin to actually do his school work.

On the contrary, it was established fairly early on that Hobbes was a stuffed tiger, but he was real to Calvin.
Examples:
During the period when Hobbes is lost and found by Susie Derkins, he appears as a stuffed animal to Susie, yet he's still real to Calvin;
When the baby raccoon Calvin finds in the woods dies, Calvin's mother is seen mourning the raccoon's passing with Hobbes (in stuffed animal form), then commenting on how broken up she must be to do so;
At least once reference is made to Hobbes having to go through the washer and dryer occasionally, and to the effect that this has on Hobbes;
And finally, in one strip Hobbes gets a rip from Calvin's rough-housing which has to be sewn up by Calvin's mother.

ScottMate

Lucien21 10-31-2005 10:57 PM

Watterson has commented a couple of times on Hobbes.

He said

"When Hobbes is a stuffed toy in one panel and alive in the next, I'm juxtaposing the "grown-up" version of reality with Calvin's version, and inviting the reader to decide which is truer."

""Hobbes is more about the subjective nature of reality than dolls coming to life": thus there is no concrete definition of Hobbes' reality. Watterson explained: "Calvin sees Hobbes one way, and everyone else sees Hobbes another way." Hobbes' reality is in the eye of the beholder."

Avinash_Tyagi 11-02-2005 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrift Store Scott
On the contrary, it was established fairly early on that Hobbes was a stuffed tiger, but he was real to Calvin.
Examples:
During the period when Hobbes is lost and found by Susie Derkins, he appears as a stuffed animal to Susie, yet he's still real to Calvin;
When the baby raccoon Calvin finds in the woods dies, Calvin's mother is seen mourning the raccoon's passing with Hobbes (in stuffed animal form), then commenting on how broken up she must be to do so;
At least once reference is made to Hobbes having to go through the washer and dryer occasionally, and to the effect that this has on Hobbes;
And finally, in one strip Hobbes gets a rip from Calvin's rough-housing which has to be sewn up by Calvin's mother.

ScottMate

That only establishes that everyone else views him as a stuffed animal, not that he is a stuffed animal.

Remember reality is what we percieve it to be.

stepurhan 11-03-2005 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi
That only establishes that everyone else views him as a stuffed animal, not that he is a stuffed animal.

Remember reality is what we percieve it to be.

I've always preferred Philip K Dick's definition

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip K Dick
Reality is that which, when yuu stop believing in it, doesn't go away


Maquisard 11-03-2005 03:06 PM

Funny thing to say for a man who believed that a demon has had the world stuck into a Matrix-like VR loop for the past 2000 years. :P

Melanie68 11-10-2005 03:17 PM

There is a Calvin and Hobbes article at Slate.com. Be sure to click the link of the slide show essay at the end. :)


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ngTogether.jpg

stepurhan 05-07-2006 11:53 AM

To reopen this long-dead dehate.

All last week the subject of Frazz was a game called Bedlamball.

It had no discernible rules?

Sound familiar

Melanie68 05-07-2006 04:38 PM

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...mballrules.gif

:D

Spiwak 05-07-2006 06:29 PM

Wow,.....are you guys sure that's not Watterson?

lumi 05-07-2006 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiwak
Wow,.....are you guys sure that's not Watterson?

Yeah. Why would he make subpar clone? The art is worse also.

Spiwak 05-07-2006 07:02 PM

Yea, looking at the color one on the comics.com, I see what you're saying. That uncolored one mel posted was too similar.

Is this guy just trying to gain notoriety by raising a debate about its similarities to Calvin & Hobbes? I mean, his characters look similar in style and now it looks like he's even directly referencing Calvinball. It seems like a cheap way to get public attention, if that is what he's doing. (Unless he is Watterson in disguise, of course, which I'll assume he isn't).

stepurhan 05-08-2006 04:45 AM

It could just be a publicity stunt.

On the other hand I find Frazz very funny more often than not so there isn't really a need to go for cheap publicity.

Maybe its just an inspired "what if" homage.

Or maybe its just an astoundingly spooky coincedence due to the random nature of the universe. :D

Spiwak 05-08-2006 12:53 PM

Yea Frazz isn't a bad strip from what I've seen.

Melanie68 05-24-2006 07:28 AM

Today's strip was cute. :D

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...4885460524.gif


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