Why are all indie games so bad looking? - Page 2

Toefur · 04-02-2004, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by doppelganger rex

Maybve you wern't vocal enough.

No? You go have a try, then. I tell you what, I'll give you a $20 Amazon.com voucher if you can find me a suitable background artist. 8-)

Kingzjester · 04-02-2004, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toefur

No? You go have a try, then. I tell you what, I'll give you a $20 Amazon.com voucher if you can find me a suitable background artist. 8-)

How about me?

The funny thing is that you now owe me 1500 and 20 dollars in Amazon vouchers.

Toefur · 04-02-2004, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingzjester

How about me?

The funny thing is that you now owe me 1500 and 20 dollars in Amazon vouchers.

Is that so, is it? 8-) You any good, then?

Kingzjester · 04-03-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Toefur

Is that so, is it? 8-) You any good, then?

Of course I am. Wait a while til I get deeper into the game I am working on right now, I'll post some more screenshots.

Erwin_Br · 04-03-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingzjester

Of course I am. Wait a while til I get deeper into the game I am working on right now, I'll post some more screenshots.

Hey, didn't you work on a game about an udderless cow a long, long time ago? It was supposed to be the showcase game for the ~~legendary~~ vaporware SCRAMM engine.

--Erwin

Kingzjester · 04-03-2004, 07:51 PM

Ugh, how do you remember that? I looked through the art that I did for that recently and I wanted to cry. It was really horrible. I also started working on Backfire Killed The Sly, but I stopped because it was tedious having to whip a team around. This new one I am making alone.

Wormsie · 04-04-2004, 12:28 AM

I find it interesting that Scramm and Glumol, which were supposed to be fully functioning when released, died, whereas Agast, AGS and other engines that were first released as betas and development versions are still alive. Probably has something to do with getting people actually to use the engine and give input and feedback, which in turn will give the engine developers an incentive to keep on working.

Or maybe Scramm only existed on paper. Does anyone have any insight?

Erwin_Br · 04-04-2004, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingzjester

Ugh, how do you remember that? I looked through the art that I did for that recently and I wanted to cry. It was really horrible. I also started working on Backfire Killed The Sly, but I stopped because it was tedious having to whip a team around. This new one I am making alone.

Oh yeah, I remember Backfire too! That game had neat character designs.

--Erwin

Kingzjester · 04-04-2004, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Erwin_Br

Oh yeah, I remember Backfire too! That game had neat character designs.

--Erwin

It's weirding me out cause way back when I didn't even go around as Kingzjester...

Scoville · 04-04-2004, 09:49 AM

I actually think that the art is pretty good in amateur games. Sure, a large number of them have really poor visuals, but those are usually ones that are entirely done by one person. Apprentice and Out of Order in particular look great.

Personally, I think the art is far better than the writing in most cases. It seems like most fan adventures are started up by some fan of the genre who wants to make one themselves, and so decides to write and design it on top of organizing the project. Judging by the quality of the games, you definitely get the impression that the writers have no real experience, and they know very little about game design and structure (of course there are exceptions, don't get offended by this if you've written some yourself). In contrast, you can easily tell that it isn't the artist's first time ever trying to draw something.

Wormsie · 04-04-2004, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingzjester

It's weirding me out cause way back when I didn't even go around as Kingzjester...

I remember you always were either Yorick Kingzjester or just plain and simple Kingzlebub. In any case the most recent Backfire page was definitely connected to your current nick and the Fried Egg design page. And besides, you are easily recognizable - when you aren't doppelganging, that is.

Wormsie · 04-04-2004, 09:59 AM

Every time I open this thread I see that veins-post of mine. It's starting to freak me out. So I'm just going to extend this thread onto page three... (I hope one post is enough).

EDIT: Of course, delete works too.

Kingzjester · 04-04-2004, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by deadworm222

I remember you always were either Yorick Kingzjester or just plain and simple Kingzlebub. In any case the most recent Backfire page was definitely connected to your current nick and the Fried Egg design page. And besides, you are easily recognizable - when you aren't doppelganging, that is.

The old incarnation of the Backfire Killed The Sly site had be in the credits as both myself and Kingzjester. After that I decided it was too bothersome to be two identical people so I Yorick-Kingzjesterified myself. It may be time to start phasing out Kingzjester for something that is closer to my real name. Well, here we go: call me Panama Steve from now on.

Wormsie · 04-04-2004, 10:10 AM

Panama. Check.

Maquisard · 04-04-2004, 10:36 AM

Kako se ti stvarno zoves, na Srpskom?

Kingzjester · 04-04-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mares

Kako se ti stvarno zoves, na Srpskom?

...

Wormsie · 04-05-2004, 12:03 AM

~~Four~~ Five consonants rifght after each other. Impressive.

Erkki · 04-05-2004, 03:19 AM

Five.

Jäääär

remixor · 04-05-2004, 03:27 AM

Those are totally vowels

Erkki · 04-05-2004, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by remixor

Those are totally vowels

OMG! You're a genious

04-03-2004, 07:51 PM	#26
Kingzjester Tactlessly understated Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Niceshire Posts: 2,045	Ugh, how do you remember that? I looked through the art that I did for that recently and I wanted to cry. It was really horrible. I also started working on Backfire Killed The Sly, but I stopped because it was tedious having to whip a team around. This new one I am making alone. Share Share this post on Twitter

04-04-2004, 12:28 AM	#27
Wormsie Doctor Watson Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 4,736	I find it interesting that Scramm and Glumol, which were supposed to be fully functioning when released, died, whereas Agast, AGS and other engines that were first released as betas and development versions are still alive. Probably has something to do with getting people actually to use the engine and give input and feedback, which in turn will give the engine developers an incentive to keep on working. Or maybe Scramm only existed on paper. Does anyone have any insight? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Don't worry, I'm a doctor.

04-04-2004, 09:49 AM	#30
Scoville Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 324	I actually think that the art is pretty good in amateur games. Sure, a large number of them have really poor visuals, but those are usually ones that are entirely done by one person. Apprentice and Out of Order in particular look great. Personally, I think the art is far better than the writing in most cases. It seems like most fan adventures are started up by some fan of the genre who wants to make one themselves, and so decides to write and design it on top of organizing the project. Judging by the quality of the games, you definitely get the impression that the writers have no real experience, and they know very little about game design and structure (of course there are exceptions, don't get offended by this if you've written some yourself). In contrast, you can easily tell that it isn't the artist's first time ever trying to draw something. Share Share this post on Twitter

04-04-2004, 09:59 AM	#32
Wormsie Doctor Watson Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 4,736	Every time I open this thread I see that veins-post of mine. It's starting to freak me out. So I'm just going to extend this thread onto page three... (I hope one post is enough). EDIT: Of course, delete works too. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Don't worry, I'm a doctor.

04-04-2004, 10:10 AM	#34
Wormsie Doctor Watson Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 4,736	Panama. Check. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Don't worry, I'm a doctor.

04-04-2004, 10:36 AM	#35
Maquisard Citizen of Bizarro World Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Htrae Posts: 4,219	Kako se ti stvarno zoves, na Srpskom? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ By no rocket’s blue shade am no shells dead down there, Gave no proof all day long that the flag was unwhere! No say does am spar-strangled shroud hang limply! Under land of no free! Am us home coward-leeee! ~Excerpt from the Bizarro Anthem

04-05-2004, 12:03 AM	#37
Wormsie Doctor Watson Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 4,736	~~Four~~ Five consonants rifght after each other. Impressive. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Don't worry, I'm a doctor. Last edited by deadworm222; 04-06-2004 at 12:16 AM.

04-05-2004, 03:19 AM	#38
Erkki Umbilicus Mundi Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Stonia Posts: 1,266	Five. Jäääär Share Share this post on Twitter __________________

04-05-2004, 03:27 AM	#39
remixor A search for a crazy man! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 3,987	Those are totally vowels Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Chris "News Editor" Remo Some sort of Writer or Editor or Something, Idle Thumbs "Some comparisons are a little less obvious. I always think of Grim Fandango as Casablanca on acid." - Will Wright

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