A poll: Are fangames bad, by definition? - Adventure Forums
You are viewing an archived version of the site which is no longer maintained.
Go to the current live site or the Adventure Gamers forums
Adventure Gamers

Home Adventure Forums Gaming AG Underground - Freeware Adventures A poll: Are fangames bad, by definition?


View Poll Results: Amateur adventure games are bad.
Yes, definitely. 2 3.57%
No, there can also be good fangames. 51 91.07%
-Other- 3 5.36%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-13-2006, 03:36 AM   #1
Doctor Watson
 
Wormsie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The Catacombs
Posts: 4,736
Default A poll: Are fangames bad, by definition?

We all know from which thread this poll spawns... So, do you think it is absolutely impossible for a game to be good if it is released as freeware and made by dedicated enthusiasts?

EDIT: I apologise for the use of the term "fangame" as a term meaning all amateur adventure games. Shouldn't have been so hasty.
__________________
Don't worry, I'm a doctor.
Wormsie is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 03:44 AM   #2
woof
 
Karmillo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NOT REALLY RIGHT HERE
Posts: 4,750
Send a message via AIM to Karmillo Send a message via MSN to Karmillo
Default

I voted other...well when i voted i had a reason but Ive kinda forgot it now...

Ill post when I remember what it is
__________________
"I've got nothing to lose! Except for...well everything."
Karmillo is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 04:00 AM   #3
Irritant F0rum Beasty
 
The Seed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Just lurking...
Posts: 990
Default

I have enjoyed some of the amature adventures based on the authors own ideas (i.e. 5 Days A Stranger, the Apprentice series, Out of Order), but I'm not so much a fan of amature games based on existing adventure game franchises, I think they can come off kind of...tacky.
__________________
Disclaimer

The Seed accepts no responsibility for any damage that my have been caused to your Hard Drive as a result of viewing this post!

Last edited by The Seed; 01-13-2006 at 04:08 AM.
The Seed is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 06:35 AM   #4
woof
 
Karmillo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NOT REALLY RIGHT HERE
Posts: 4,750
Send a message via AIM to Karmillo Send a message via MSN to Karmillo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Seed
I have enjoyed some of the amature adventures based on the authors own ideas (i.e. 5 Days A Stranger, the Apprentice series, Out of Order), but I'm not so much a fan of amature games based on existing adventure game franchises, I think they can come off kind of...tacky.
Most of the time they can be, but when they dont take themselves seriously like MI:2 Lechucks revenge they can be great
__________________
"I've got nothing to lose! Except for...well everything."
Karmillo is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 07:42 AM   #5
Hitch-Hiker
 
Dasilva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Mediterranean Sea
Posts: 4,364
Send a message via MSN to Dasilva
Default

Fan games are the sould of the community.

So does this mean that Fan art is shit? Is fan fiction shit?

Same thing applies to fangames. Art & fiction can be bad, and it can be amazing too, same with fan games.

People dont seem to realize the farmiliarity and throw the name 'fan' around too much.
__________________
Regards,
DaSilva


"If you don't get out of the box you've been raised in, you won't understand how much bigger the world is." - Angelina Jolie

_

<Susan falls through the floor and gets stuck>
<Paco looks at her blankly>
"Whats wrong with you?! Lassy would of had a firetruck here by now!"
- Susan Mayer, Desperate Housewives
Dasilva is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 08:56 AM   #6
kamikaze hummingbirds
 
Hammerite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Over there.
Posts: 7,946
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karmillo
Most of the time they can be, but when they dont take themselves seriously like MI:2 Lechucks revenge they can be great
What are you on about?
MI2 wasnt a fangame!!
__________________
The bin is a place for household rubbish, not beloved pets!
Hammerite is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 08:57 AM   #7
woof
 
Karmillo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NOT REALLY RIGHT HERE
Posts: 4,750
Send a message via AIM to Karmillo Send a message via MSN to Karmillo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerite
What are you on about?
MI2 wasnt a fangame!!
Noooooo not MI2, MI:2
__________________
"I've got nothing to lose! Except for...well everything."
Karmillo is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 09:04 AM   #8
Super Moderator
 
Dale Baldwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Southampton, UK
Posts: 3,139
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karmillo
Noooooo not MI2, MI:2
Noooooo not MI:2, M:I-2.
Dale
__________________
Now Playing: Catherine, Sword and Sworcery:EP
Recently Completed: The Witcher
Dale Baldwin is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 09:21 AM   #9
woof
 
Karmillo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NOT REALLY RIGHT HERE
Posts: 4,750
Send a message via AIM to Karmillo Send a message via MSN to Karmillo
Default

Ugh, silly me...wait M:I doesnt make sense!
__________________
"I've got nothing to lose! Except for...well everything."
Karmillo is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 10:30 AM   #10
El Luchador
 
bigjko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denmark
Posts: 1,629
Send a message via ICQ to bigjko Send a message via MSN to bigjko
Default

Wait, are we talking about Mission Impossible now?
__________________
Use Verb On Noun - Adventure game inspired illustrations
bigjko is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 10:33 AM   #11
Super Moderator
 
Dale Baldwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Southampton, UK
Posts: 3,139
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjko
Wait, are we talking about Mission Impossible now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karmillo's link
The follow-up to "The Devil's Triangle" gives the original "Monkey Island 2" a complete make-over pitting Guybrush against hundreds of bad movie cliches, infinite parodies, and gut-wrenching action based on John Woo's "Mission: Impossible 2" and an assortment of other action films. Features fully animated "neonimation" cut-scenes, 9 alternate endings, optional factoid commentary, and special guest appearances by Raspberrybeard the Pirate.
So.. yes.
__________________
Now Playing: Catherine, Sword and Sworcery:EP
Recently Completed: The Witcher
Dale Baldwin is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 10:48 AM   #12
Unreliable Narrator
 
Squinky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Le Canada
Posts: 9,873
Send a message via AIM to Squinky Send a message via MSN to Squinky
Default

I cannot make a qualified statement on what is "good" and what is "bad". I can only have an opinion as to whether or not amateur adventure games are pleasing to myself and myself alone. That being said, I consider the majority of ALL games to be "bad", and it doesn't matter if they're made by a huge team in a studio or by one person in a basement. However, I do like quite a handful of games of both categories as well.

If we are using the true definition of "fangame", which is a game based on an already-existing franchise rather than one with an original premise and characters, then I can honestly say that I've never played one that I liked. I've never read any fan fiction that I've liked, either.

Fan art, however, is a different story.
Squinky is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 10:59 AM   #13
Citizen of Bizarro World
 
Maquisard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Htrae
Posts: 4,219
Default

I take issue with the name "fangames" as defined by AudioSoldier. It implies games based on extant commercial franchises. Most of those are bad, but even so, they're good for the genre, as I theorized in another thread, because sometimes they can gather a great group of talent, the kind an original project rarely could.

Original amateur titles also have a lot to offer. Nuff said.
__________________
By no rocketís blue shade am no shells dead down there,
Gave no proof all day long that the flag was unwhere!
No say does am spar-strangled shroud hang limply!
Under land of no free! Am us home coward-leeee!

~Excerpt from the Bizarro Anthem
Maquisard is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 11:13 AM   #14
Staff Member
 
stuboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 531
Default

Please, please don't make me say this again; Fan Game ≠ Amateur Game.
stuboy is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 11:17 AM   #15
Citizen of Bizarro World
 
Maquisard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Htrae
Posts: 4,219
Default



[De Niro] Are you talkin' to me? [/De Niro]

'Cause, you know, that's exactly what I said.
__________________
By no rocketís blue shade am no shells dead down there,
Gave no proof all day long that the flag was unwhere!
No say does am spar-strangled shroud hang limply!
Under land of no free! Am us home coward-leeee!

~Excerpt from the Bizarro Anthem
Maquisard is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 11:18 AM   #16
Hitch-Hiker
 
Dasilva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Mediterranean Sea
Posts: 4,364
Send a message via MSN to Dasilva
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stuboy
Please, please don't make me say this again; Fan Game ≠ Amateur Game.
So there arent original Amateur Games?
__________________
Regards,
DaSilva


"If you don't get out of the box you've been raised in, you won't understand how much bigger the world is." - Angelina Jolie

_

<Susan falls through the floor and gets stuck>
<Paco looks at her blankly>
"Whats wrong with you?! Lassy would of had a firetruck here by now!"
- Susan Mayer, Desperate Housewives
Dasilva is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 11:20 AM   #17
Citizen of Bizarro World
 
Maquisard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Htrae
Posts: 4,219
Default

That symbol is does not equal.
__________________
By no rocketís blue shade am no shells dead down there,
Gave no proof all day long that the flag was unwhere!
No say does am spar-strangled shroud hang limply!
Under land of no free! Am us home coward-leeee!

~Excerpt from the Bizarro Anthem
Maquisard is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 01:19 PM   #18
ART_Adventures
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 36
Default

Fan Games, Amateur Games, whatever...

Evil. All Evil. Destroy them at once. Destroy them now. This instant. Yes, Including mine.

No. No. Pull the plug. Switch me off.
ART_Adventures is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 01:30 PM   #19
Hitch-Hiker
 
Dasilva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Mediterranean Sea
Posts: 4,364
Send a message via MSN to Dasilva
Default



__________________
Regards,
DaSilva


"If you don't get out of the box you've been raised in, you won't understand how much bigger the world is." - Angelina Jolie

_

<Susan falls through the floor and gets stuck>
<Paco looks at her blankly>
"Whats wrong with you?! Lassy would of had a firetruck here by now!"
- Susan Mayer, Desperate Housewives
Dasilva is offline  
Old 01-13-2006, 02:11 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
JohnGreenArt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 273
Default

I'd just like to point out that the term "fan game" can be interpretted to mean "game made by a fan of the genre", ie, it can just mean adventure games in general. It doesn't have to mean a specific series or character. Many people have made original adventure games because they are fans of many other adventure games.
__________________
"Games are fun. Making games is funner!"
JohnGreenArt is offline  
 



Thread Tools

 


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.