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Brushguy 01-01-2006 11:44 AM

Sam and Max Are Returning In A New Fangame Series
 
MID-MORNING PRODUCTIONS ANNOUNCES FREE DOWNLOADABLE SAM AND MAX ADVENTURE GAMES
www.flintlocked.com

The independent games developer Mid-Morning Productions announced today the development of three new adventure games based off of the beloved characters of Steve Purcell’s comic series, Sam and Max. The games will have separate release dates and will be available independently, but they will all be part of a single story arc, entitled Sam & Max: Flintlocked. After each game’s release, the new game will be available for download from www.flintlocked.com and/or other available mirrors, to run on most computers running a Windows-based operating system.

Although the games are "fan games" and Mid-Morning Productions does not own the legal rights for a video game based upon the characters, the games have been given the go-ahead by series creator Steve Purcell, and the developers are dedicated towards creating a hilarious pseudo-sequel to the cult 1993 PC hit, "Sam & Max Hit the Road," developed by Lucasarts. The new games are being developed on the highly flexible SLUDGE adventure game development software, developed by Hungry Software.

The demo of the first game should be released some time in 2006, with a closed beta beforehand to test system requirements and general flow of game play. Any further news on the games’ developments will be posted on www.flintlocked.com. Any questions or comments should be directed to the forums located at www.flintlocked.com/forum/. Registering at the site is not required for posting on the forums.

About Mid-Morning Productions
Appearing in its earliest form on the fan site www.samandmax.net’s forums (forums hosted by www.lucasforums.com) in March 2004, the original proposition of the creation of a Sam and Max fan game was received with many offering their services. However, as time went on and hard work began on the project, many team members dropped away, leaving only a skeleton crew of dedicated members to guide the project. These members have been working on the game for over a year and a half now, and it has become a true labor of love.

Dasilva 01-01-2006 11:54 AM

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Q8. Aren't you afraid Lucasarts is going to sue you?
A8. Since Lucasarts no longer owns the rights to do anything with Sam & Max, we're not concerned anymore.
Wow, now Steve Purcell can sue you, what an honour.

Squinky 01-01-2006 12:28 PM

Hey, didn't you read this part?

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Originally Posted by Brushguy
the games have been given the go-ahead by series creator Steve Purcell

If this is actually the case (i.e. Steve has actually given the team permission to develop the game), I highly doubt they'll be sued...

Dasilva 01-01-2006 12:39 PM

I guess I missed that. :P

Well Its amazing that His giving people permission. I guess that means there can be more SnM fan projects around.

Karmillo 01-01-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Squinky
Hey, didn't you read this part?



If this is actually the case (i.e. Steve has actually given the team permission to develop the game), I highly doubt they'll be sued...

well you never know, maybe hell just get bored one day and feel like having a laugh :P

Ledgerat 01-01-2006 02:17 PM

This could be very good news. Though I think if Steve realy has given his OK, I'm sure he is getting updates and willl have to give final approval to the overall game. I know I wouldn't want my stuff looking like crap or taking away from any full length game with the same characters. Would you?

Larrin 01-01-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ledgerat
This could be very good news. Though I think if Steve realy has given his OK, I'm sure he is getting updates and willl have to give final approval to the overall game. I know I wouldn't want my stuff looking like crap or taking away from any full length game with the same characters. Would you?

It was probably more like, "You want to make a game about Sam and Max and release it for free? Er, sure, I guess." I don't much remember what the exact words were.

SMNMX 01-01-2006 05:29 PM

Please, try not to post silly things like "Now you can get sued". We've been working on this for over a year, and have thought everything through. We have contacted Steve Purcell on multiple occasions and he has stated that, although he cannot give us the legal rights, he supports the production of a Sam and Max fangame. I too am a bit too lazy (c'mon, it's new years day) to check what he said exactly, but he's fine with it. And we will of course be updating Steve when the games are getting to a more final point, but he's a busy man and we're not bugging him incessantly.

Check out the site, and remember that we're always looking for dedicated team members, especially artists.

Candle 01-01-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SMNMX
Please, try not to post silly things like "Now you can get sued". We've been working on this for over a year, and have thought everything through. We have contacted Steve Purcell on multiple occasions and he has stated that, although he cannot give us the legal rights, he supports the production of a Sam and Max fangame.

Check out the site, and remember that we're always looking for dedicated team members, especially artists.

Good luck with your project .


Candle

jannar85 01-02-2006 11:05 AM

Hey. Looks cool. Good luck!

Rayvielle 01-02-2006 12:12 PM

It seems you've invested a lot of time and effort into this project, which is very pleasing to see.

I wish you every success with it.

Really makes one wonder why Lucasarts have to put a plug in these efforts, when others are willing to let them continue.

Extra kudos go to Steve Purcell, who created these two wacky and well loved characters in the first place and condoned the project. :)

I can't wait to see the results

Dasilva 01-02-2006 12:52 PM

Yeah, the screenshots look nice.

Karmillo 01-02-2006 03:49 PM

Im not too sure on this but wouldnt it be telltale who you would need to get permission from?

Dasilva 01-02-2006 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Karmillo
Im not too sure on this but wouldnt it be telltale who you would need to get permission from?

They have permission from TellTale Games. Steve Purcell = TellTale Games. :)

RLacey 01-02-2006 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasilva
They have permission from TellTale Games. Steve Purcell = TellTale Games. :)

Um, no. Steve Purcell works for Pixar, and is merely playing an advisory role at Telltale and drawing comics for them ;).

Larrin 01-02-2006 05:52 PM

LucasArts had owned all of the video game rights to Sam and Max. Telltale games have the right to make a game, not to control all use of Sam and Max in video games.

Dasilva 01-02-2006 06:00 PM

Yes. Steve Purcell is meerly lending the rights of the characters to the company to make a game, with him supervising of course.

AudioSoldier 01-02-2006 06:58 PM

It'll never be finished.

Dasilva 01-02-2006 07:03 PM

It will be finished soon.

Karmillo 01-02-2006 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AudioSoldier
It'll never be finished.

what will?

telltales game or the fan game?

Dasilva 01-02-2006 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Karmillo
what will?

telltales game or the fan game?

I think he is refering to the fan game. Can Audio Soldier please not hijack this into a ''I hate fan games'' thread please, thank you.

Squinky 01-02-2006 10:17 PM

Well, I'd quite prefer if he supported his statement with reasonable justification. One's thing for sure on the Internet: there exist way too many people who seemingly have the inability to argue properly.

eriq 01-02-2006 11:15 PM

snore. boring. Use your talents to make an original game instead.... please!

fov 01-02-2006 11:38 PM

The timing makes this interesting, to say the least. :) I hope it works out for everyone, although I have to admit that even though Steve seems to support it, the idea of a fan game being produced from the same license as a commercial game, at the same time, makes me a little nervous. (It shouldn't, since I have no personal stake in either one, but I guess I'm a worrywart that way. :D)

In any case, I wish you guys the best of luck with your project.

HieroHero 01-03-2006 01:35 AM

this "fan game" is kinda redundant now that telltale is making the sam and max sequel..if nothin was happenin with sam n max i woulda supported it.. but now you are just getting in the way of an official game.. why take the risk of getting people confused..and putting out a fangame when a real one is on the way? the idea of the fan game is to do it because no1 else is.. you dont do it when an official game is being made simultaneously..what the hells the point?

AudioSoldier 01-03-2006 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Squinky
Well, I'd quite prefer if he supported his statement with reasonable justification. One's thing for sure on the Internet: there exist way too many people who seemingly have the inability to argue properly.

What with the low percentage of fan games completed and the commercial Sam & Max offering on the horizon, it just seems very unlikely we'll ever be playing this fan game.

Oh, and what with my previous thread nestling on this page with over 200 posts, I assume you're not including me: "One's thing for sure on the Internet: there exist way too many people who seemingly have the inability to argue properly"

AFGNCAAP 01-03-2006 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AudioSoldier
Oh, and what with my previous thread nestling on this page with over 200 posts, I assume you're not including me: "One's thing for sure on the Internet: there exist way too many people who seemingly have the inability to argue properly"

There is a difference between arguing for a long time and arguing properly. Just saying.

And a note to everyone: please don't hijack this thread to continue that discussion, especially so if you intend to make it personal.

Ledgerat 01-03-2006 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AFGNCAAP
There is a difference between arguing for a long time and arguing properly. Just saying.

And a note to everyone: please don't hijack this thread to continue that discussion, especially so if you intend to make it personal.

OK OK...enough of that..though one question: Maybe someone should invent the "non-fan" game. A game specifically to go against the love of the genre.

now...lets get back to the whole Sam and Max issue...cool?

I share the thoughts that since Telltale is making a real game that the fan game may go by the wayside. Of course, some real games never get made either. At best, If its very close to done then maybe this fan game will be like an appetizer for the main course.

Dasilva 01-03-2006 06:32 AM

So if VU made KQ9 you wouldent think KQIX would be any good?

bigjko 01-03-2006 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AudioSoldier
What with the low percentage of fan games completed..

I suppose you also have the percentage of commcercial games actually completed? And the percentage of those completed games that are any good at all?

You seem to have a lot of statistics to back up your opinions.

As for the game at hand, I'd agree that if the commercial game turns out good there won't be anyone shouting "Thank god we have the fan game to play!" (..then again, we have no reason not to try the game, it's free for christ's sake..)

But on the other hand, we don't know that TellTale's Sam & Max will be any good.

Dasilva 01-03-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjko
But on the other hand, we don't know that TellTale's Sam & Max will be any good.

If S.M Return is like Bone you can count on me not to buy it. And he has a point Tell Tale could come up with a massive dissapointment you never know.

AND IT IS FREE. So why do people always nock free things (like fan games) its completely free so stop complainig.

fov 01-03-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AFGNCAAP
And a note to everyone: please don't hijack this thread to continue that discussion, especially so if you intend to make it personal.

*ahem*

Please? :frown:

Larrin 01-04-2006 07:27 AM

I don't see why anyone would be worried about the TellTale game taking away from the fan game. They will be different games. The hope of the developers of the fangame is that people will enjoy it, not to sell copies; it will be a free download after all. The fact that TellTale is making a Sam and Max game does detract from some of the anticipation for such a game, but if the fangame ends up being awesome, who cares? And if I'm the only one who plays it and loves it, then I really don't care if no one else downloads it. Of course, some people that made it might be a little angry...... The bottom line is that Bone: Out from Boneville was about an hour long, so I don't think our want for adventure games is going to be completely satisfied, unless Telltale's Sam and Max is going to be infinitely longer, which I doubt. I love to play well made fangames, and there are extremely few.

AudioSoldier 01-06-2006 04:31 PM

I think Telltale have a better chance of creating a better Sam & Max; one more worthy of your time even if there is a price tag attached.

People are willing to fork out reams of money for movies and so forth, but when it comes to BUYING *shock horror* a game; protests are raised at the price and the process of actually buying a game.

It's our duty as consumers to be buying products.

Dasilva 01-06-2006 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AudioSoldier
I think Telltale have a better chance of creating a better Sam & Max; one more worthy of your time even if there is a price tag attached.

People are willing to fork out reams of money for movies and so forth, but when it comes to BUYING *shock horror* a game; protests are raised at the price and the process of actually buying a game.

It's our duty as consumers to be buying products.

But the fan game does not have a price tag.

Maquisard 01-06-2006 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AudioSoldier
It's our duty as consumers to be buying products.

That's profound. Lemme also add to that statement that it's our duty as clap-monkeys to incessantly clap our cymbals. :D

http://home.austin.rr.com/mackmustgo/clapmonkey.jpg

bigjko 01-06-2006 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AudioSoldier
People are willing to fork out reams of money for movies and so forth, but when it comes to BUYING *shock horror* a game; protests are raised at the price and the process of actually buying a game.

I'm terribly sorry to bring this up..

And you protest when you have to *shock* download a free game. "Oh, jeez. It might not be of optimal quality. I'll have wasted valuable time on it, that could've been spent on buying real games, that are also crap but feel better because I paid for them."

Karmillo 01-06-2006 06:47 PM

So is there any plot figured out for the fangame yet?

woxel1 01-06-2006 11:19 PM

Yep, there's plot.

Karmillo 01-07-2006 12:29 AM

Any hints or a sneek peek?


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