10-25-2005, 06:44 AM | #161 |
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I am not a lawyer either, but I'm fairly confident on this point. As long as there was anything in KQIX that Vivendi could argue was clearly identifiable as taken from the KQ games (even if appearing under a different name), they could stop the game's release.
One thing KQIX has going for it is that many elements of KQ are generic or taken from older stories. Obviously, Vivendi can't stop every game that features a king, for instance. On the other hand, it's not good enough to argue that "these elements have individually appeared outside of the KQ series, so when we are using them we're not ripping off KQ," because the unique combination of them is still copyrighted. Of course, the point at which a combination of generic elements becomes identifiable as something in particular is somewhat subjective. Since it's well known that this game was developed as a King's Quest game, it's not going to get any benefit of doubt: if something appears to be taken from the KQ games, the assumption will be that it is. It is very frustrating that all the work is going to be wasted. The only faint hope I can see would be for the team to work out a deal with Vivendi, where they licensed the right to use KQ. Meanwhile, Just Adventure+ reports: "There's more behind Vivendi's decision than has been revealed and we hope to soon impart more details." An official KQ9? I don't really believe in it. Besides, I don't know that I'd get very excited about a King's Quest game produced by Vivendi anyway.
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I'm not exactly sure why they called this game King Quest 9. I mean, isn't that asking for trouble? It means that it prevents Vivendi from even thinking about making their own KQ9 (even though that's an highly unlikely possibility).
Calling it King Quest 8 1/2, or whatever, could have at least avoided this particular problem.
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I almost believe that the team's apparent passiveness is caused by intensive negotiations with Vivendi and we'll see KQIX after all...
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10-25-2005, 11:24 AM | #164 |
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I just opened a new thread about this, but wanted to reply in here also. Several of us King's Quest fans have organized, and launched a website to try to save the game. Hope you'll pop in and check it out.
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Hi All,
To wanting to know: It seems that VU is in great trouble. Do check following link: http://www.kqix.com/forum/index.php?topic=3003.msg134510#msg134510 Regards |
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That link leads to a list of news items concerning Vivendi from all over the Internet. Any specific news you have in mind? And does it have anything to do with KQIX?
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I'm not entire sure it has something to do with KQIX. However, let's keep our fingers crossed.
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12-09-2005, 02:16 AM | #170 |
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So what do you mean by "It seems that VU is in great trouble."?
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12-09-2005, 02:20 AM | #171 |
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I second the AFGNCAAP's question. The link provided doesn't anywere indicate or otherwise state that Vivendi is in trouble.
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12-09-2005, 02:33 AM | #172 |
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Is he suggesting that VU going bankrupt and hundreds of people losing their jobs would be a good thing and that Kings Quest IX could then go ahead.
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I think it's a well known fact now that Vivendi's been through a lot of finantial problems in the last years and its eventual bankrupcy has been rumoured long enough, so I don't see any news on this.
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BTW, even if Vivendi closed its doors, I think it would still be illegal for the team to release KQIX.
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They would still hold the copyrights as far as I know. Dunno if a company has to be actively trading to hold copyrights. Seems highly unlikely.
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If Vivendi were to go bankrupt (which is unlikely because the games division is linked to all kinds of other companies) then the assets would be sold off to cover some of the company's debts, so the licences would merely pass to the highest bidder. As such, the copyright would still be very much enforcable.
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In case you haven't notice, POS isn't release game under "KQIX" POS receive license in changing game title to: "The Silver Lining" Greater relief is that everything else in game remains the same. |
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12-11-2005, 11:25 PM | #178 |
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I know, I posted that before the news got to me (in fact, before the entire world learned of them).
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I'm going to close this thread now, for obvious reasons!
Feel free to talk about this game's new future in the KQIX Saved thread.
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King's Quest IX thread forced to close!
A website has been started to work towards the reinstatement of the locked King's Quest IX thread. The group hopes to prove to Dale Baldwin, Inc. that the thread should be allowed to continue. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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