[Hamham Chan]

After watching John Woo´s latest crapfest Paycheck i decided to read the imdb.com page for this particular film, and look what i found:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338337/movieconnections
A reference to Monkey Island 2?!
Weird, i must have missed that.
Does anyone know what the reference is?

[WRMW]

Maybe the poor people at imdb got confused and associated the M:I-2 on the poster with Monkey Island and not Mission Impossible
Never saw the movie, though, so who knows?

[Hamham Chan]

Yeah, they probably mean Mission Impossible 2.
Dunno how they got it mixed up with Monkey Island 2, though.

[Jake]

Alternatively, what often happens is that a fan of Monkey Island and also of Paycheck will see something similar between the two, but not notice they're both actually referencing something else that they don't know about.

Here's an exaggerated made up unlikely example: Like, someone claiming the end of Waynes World 2 in the church is a reference to the end of Monkey Island 1, when both are actually references to The Graduate.

[Hamham Chan]

Imdb has updated their page for Paycheck, where they explain the reference to Monkey Island 2:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338337/movieconnections

Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge (1991) (VG)
- The manilla envelope containing everything he needs to solve the mystery if he only figures out how...

Really? That seems a tad bit far fetched.
Do you really think John Woo is a Monkey Island fan?

[Thello]

That reference isn't a reference at all.

[Sotaria]

Well, I don't know about Monkey Island 2, but when my brother and I saw the film, my brother turned to me and said, "it is like an adventure game." He is right. A bunch of obscure objects he carries around for no reason all come in handy to solve a piece of the puzzle and save the day! Maybe it is an adventure game movie.

[LeisureSuitedLooney]

Originally Posted by Sotaria

Well, I don't know about Monkey Island 2, but when my brother and I saw the film, my brother turned to me and said, "it is like an adventure game." He is right. A bunch of obscure objects he carries around for no reason all come in handy to solve a piece of the puzzle and save the day! Maybe it is an adventure game movie.

I thought the same. The structure of it was just like an adventure game, loved that aspect of Paycheck. Probably would've been a fun game.

[Dasilva]

Paycheck is very underrated I think, It did very poorly in the cinema for some reason, but I thought it was superb when I saw it.

[jacog]

Could be an interesting game premise... you have a machine that lets you look into the future, you see something horrible happen to someone and you decide to save him by leaving a bunch of obscure objects in an envelope. As you add things to the collection, the view of the future changes... for better or worse.

[stepurhan]

Originally Posted by Hamham Chan

Really? That seems a tad bit far fetched.
Do you really think John Woo is a Monkey Island fan?

That manilla envelope connection is astonishingly far-fetched. Mainly because the whole envelope thing is from the short story by Philip K Dick whcih predates Monkey Island 2.

Originally Posted by Dasilva

Paycheck is very underrated I think, It did very poorly in the cinema for some reason, but I thought it was superb when I saw it.

I thought it was a reasonable enough action movie but I still hated it for the way it treated the original source material. Once again an interesting concept from a Philip K Dick short story (how knowing the future can make apparently random objects useful) gets the Hollywood "let's make the lead a noble hero and put in lots of action scenes" makeover. Yet another adaptation where they miss the point.

There is a long list of these for Dick stories. Total Recall (story : We can Remember it for you wholesale) Blade Runner (Do androids dream of electric sheep?) Screamers (Second Variety) Minority Report (The Minority Report. Wow, that time they almost kept the title) It bugs me when film-makers throw away thoughtful plotlines in favour of flash and bang stuff.

[Davies]

The "stuff in the envelope" idea reminded me of adventure games, too, but it's a bit farfetched to claim it's like any one game in particular.

Claiming that the inclusion of "tangible 3-D computer screens" is a deliberate reference to Minority Report is equally farfetched.

[Hamham Chan]

Do you think i should watch Paycheck again? I thought it was really bad the first i saw it.

[Wormsie]

And besides, the manilla envelope in MI2 doesn't actually solve everything...

[Davies]

Originally Posted by Hamham Chan

Do you think i should watch Paycheck again? I thought it was really bad the first i saw it.

Let's put it this way... Colin and I watched it "for free" on Sky Movies one night when there was nothing else on. It passed the evening, but I can't really remember anything about it.

("For free" meaning that the Sky Movies subscription is paid whether we watch anything or not, so any particular movie is more or less free.)

I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it again. Certainly wouldn't pay anything to see it.

[Hamham Chan]

Ok. I much prefer John Woos earlier films, like A Better Tomorrow, The Killer and Hardboiled. Paycheck kinda sucked.