[WontonGoodsoup]

So I've been playing BS3 and I got to the castle part. And I can officially say that the whole "stealth" aspect of this part of the game is the most stupid thing I've ever seen. If I wanted stealth action I would play Splinter Crap.
Does this annoy anyone else? What are your thoughts on these action oriented parts in AGs?

[Naveed]

I found zillions of crate puzzles more annoying!

[Ninja Dodo]

I think it would've worked better if they'd made that part of the game more logical and dynamic.

For example, often you could walk in plain sight as long as you were far enough away from the guards and weren't running.

In the case of the castle, it should've also been possible to sneak past the guards and go straight into the garden. This should've worked logically speaking, but the game just shoots you down whenever you try it. Pity.

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Originally Posted by WontonGoodsoup

So I've been playing BS3 and I got to the castle part. And I can officially say that the whole "stealth" aspect of this part of the game is the most stupid thing I've ever seen. If I wanted stealth action I would play Splinter Crap.
Does this annoy anyone else? What are your thoughts on these action oriented parts in AGs?

Well, simply put, they did a lousy job with it. I could go on and on about how it should have been done, but it's pretty obvious so I won't. I finally got to play the Thief: Deadly Shadows demo, and I had played the Hitman demos to death, and I've done Splinter Cell, etc. Stealth is one of my favourite styles, and I can say that Rev did not do their homework and studied those games for BS3. Hopefull the next BS will do a better job.

[ConcreteRancor]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

Well, simply put, they did a lousy job with it. I could go on and on about how it should have been done, but it's pretty obvious so I won't. I finally got to play the Thief: Deadly Shadows demo, and I had played the Hitman demos to death, and I've done Splinter Cell, etc. Stealth is one of my favourite styles, and I can say that Rev did not do their homework and studied those games for BS3. Hopefull the next BS will do a better job.

I haven't played BS3, and judging from what I've heard, I don't really plan on it. A poorly-managed stealth portion of a game can pretty much ruin the entire game for me, since I'm also such a huge fan of those games. Probably my favorite of the genre would be No One Lives Forever 2, because you didn't HAVE to be stealthy, but if you wanted too, the game let you, and let you do it well. Sure, you can't do the tricks you can do in Splinter Cell, but for a FPS, the tricks you CAN pull are quite enough.

[bysmitty]

I think the next BS game would "do a better job" to not incorperate these aspects into the game at all. I personally do not think that the stealth sequences or the plethora of crate pushing furthered either the game or the genre. I think rev's descision to expand the adventure genre only wound up alienating me and many other adventure gamers. Maybe that's why the game didn't sell very well. How can people say that there is no market for adventure games when no one is making any true adventures anymore to find out if they'd sell or not. Sorry, I'm off topic and am rambling so I'll exit my high horse now. ...bysmitty

[Royal Fool]

The only reason that I can justify the crate puzzles with is that Revolution was trying to extend the length of the game. Nothing else makes sense to me, as the crate puzzles were the dullest moments in the game. That and the stealth sequences.

[Bobyboy]

Originally Posted by Royal Fool

The only reason that I can justify the crate puzzles with is that Revolution was trying to extend the length of the game. Nothing else makes sense to me, as the crate puzzles were the dullest moments in the game. That and the stealth sequences.

besides , the next broken sword is in 2d anyway

[ragnar]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

Well, simply put, they did a lousy job with it. I could go on and on about how it should have been done, but it's pretty obvious so I won't. I finally got to play the Thief: Deadly Shadows demo, and I had played the Hitman demos to death, and I've done Splinter Cell, etc. Stealth is one of my favourite styles, and I can say that Rev did not do their homework and studied those games for BS3. Hopefull the next BS will do a better job.

On the other hand, Thief 3, did a rather lousy job with the story, something which is very good with BS3. Why is it that you have to choose between good game play and good story?

[RLacey]

While I wasn't a fan of the stealth sections, they were perfectly playable, and were considerably better than those of In Cold Blood - so kudos to Revolution for getting better between the games .

[jjacob]

I enjoyed most parts of the game, telling you which parts suck is somewhat of a spoiler in my book so I won't go there. I don't remember there being that much stealth, but then again, amazingly, I got through that part in one go, so people who would've retried it might have experienced it in a different, lengthier and more agonising way. I seriously don't understand why the Inventory never covered this game out of prejudice. It is, by all definitions, an adventure game.

[Intrepid Homoludens]

The Inventory is a very, very conservative publication, jjacob. As such, they seem extreme in what they choose to cover. My wager is that they deemed BS3 unworthy of coverage because it tried to be progressive and did things other adventure developers hadn't.

[Sky Warrior Bob]

I think stealth could have been improved a bit. Even if they did nothing more than copy & paste everything good from Metal Gear Solid 2, it still would have been a better deal.

As far as the boxes, they were innovative to a degree, but they ended up being overused.

Sky Warrior Bob

[crabapple]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

The Inventory is a very, very conservative publication, jjacob. As such, they seem extreme in what they choose to cover. My wager is that they deemed BS3 unworthy of coverage because it tried to be progressive and did things other adventure developers hadn't.

The creator of The Inventory considered it too action-oriented to be covered in his publication. One person's idea of "progressive" is another's idea of "different genre."

It's really up to The Inventory what they choose to review or not. There were plenty of mainstream websites and magazines where you could read about BS3. It certainly didn't lack for hype. A review in The Inventory would have been redundant at best, and [understatement] I doubt it would have gotten a good rating there[/understatement]. Don't you think it's better that The Inventory not rate it at all?

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Originally Posted by crabapple

Don't you think it's better that The Inventory not rate it at all?

I think it's better, because they would have torn it to bits, and for that publication it definitely would be redundant. And bigoted. I'll end it here, 'cause I will not feed the flame war over such pathetic trivialities.

[WontonGoodsoup]

I'm dinging in again because i just recently finished the game. And I have to say that the last part of the game annoys me even more than the stealth garbage.

Spoiler:

The part when you slash the dragon was pure action in my opinon.

I'm really dissapointed in this game.