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chrissie 04-30-2012 10:43 AM

Gog
 
I'm sorry if a similar thread has been posted before! I didn't start playing AGs on PC until 2000+ (a few on Playstation before that - no internet!) I have mainly since then just bought & played games as they were produced but there are so many older games I missed that are constantly on players favourite lists.

I've seen some on GOG - DRM Free - great! So curious I have so far got Under a Killing Moon, Zork Grand Inquisitor, The 7th guest & Journeyman Project 3 yet to play.

Were they good choices & what do you think of them?

Also I'd really like to see Callahans Crosstime Saloon turning up on GOG - I've played through some of the You Tube walkthrough & it just seems interesting? What older games would you like to see turning up that can be played on a newer system? :)

TimovieMan 04-30-2012 10:50 AM

Apart from GOG, some old games can be played for free on ScummVM (Lure of the Temptress, Beneath a Steel Sky, Flight of the Amazon Queen, for instance).
Especially BaSS and FotAQ are considered classics.

As for GOG itself, it'd be interesting if they had the entire AG Top 100 available (as well as all games that nearly made it). Especially the old pre-Steam games can be hard to find these days, so if they're somewhat centralized, we'd all benefit, imo...

Arial Type 04-30-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chrissie (Post 609930)
So curious I have so far got Under a Killing Moon, Zork Grand Inquisitor, The 7th guest & Journeyman Project 3 yet to play.

Were they good choices & what do you think of them?

Great choices, if you ask me. Zork Grand Inquisitor is one of my all time favourites. The atmosphere and humour are really top-notch. I played Legacy of Time about 15 years ago, but I have very good memories about it. There was also a hilarious sidekick somewhat similar to the one in Zork. And all three Tex Murphy games are ageless classics, although Pandora Directive is better in terms of story and characters. Haven't played The 7th Guest yet :shifty:

TimovieMan 04-30-2012 11:20 AM

7th Guest was revolutionary in 1993 in terms of graphics, but as a game it's not all that good, imo. Don't get me wrong, in 1993 it was fantastic, but the graphics were more or less all it had going for it, and time destroyed that...

inm8#2 04-30-2012 12:24 PM

GOG is amazing. I hope they'll continue to expand their classic adventure catalog. They already offer many classic Sierra titles.

DRM-free, downloadable bonus content. They do it right.

jhetfield21 04-30-2012 12:41 PM

BaSS and FotAQ are also free in the repositories of ubuntu.....as is SCUMMVM,for anyone who prefers linux.

I also agree with Tim for a centralized place for AGs.Even though I prefer hard copies some of the old ones would be difficult to find in hard copies and especially CD/DVD since i don't have any of the old consoles/amiga/commodore and the like and digital distribution is easier to finance.

chrissie 05-01-2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TimovieMan (Post 609932)
Apart from GOG, some old games can be played for free on ScummVM (Lure of the Temptress, Beneath a Steel Sky, Flight of the Amazon Queen, for instance).
Especially BaSS and FotAQ are considered classics.

As for GOG itself, it'd be interesting if they had the entire AG Top 100 available (as well as all games that nearly made it). Especially the old pre-Steam games can be hard to find these days, so if they're somewhat centralized, we'd all benefit, imo...

I haven't yet tried ScummVM TimovieMan - I think I've got a couple of the games you mentioned on disc (from Ebay) but have never been able to play!

I'm hoping that GOG will gradually add a lot more older games that I missed the first time round & agree that we'd all benefit from them being centralised! :)

Thanks for the comments on the other games I mentioned! :)

harald 05-02-2012 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TimovieMan (Post 609943)
7th Guest was revolutionary in 1993 in terms of graphics, but as a game it's not all that good, imo. Don't get me wrong, in 1993 it was fantastic, but the graphics were more or less all it had going for it, and time destroyed that...

And the music. The soundtrack is awesome. Not ruined by time. It's almost worth playing for its soundtrack alone... :P

Agustin 05-02-2012 04:47 AM

The chances of seeing any Legend titles being re-released are slim. Most of them would have to be relicensed (remember they're based on already existing IPs) and that's both expensive and complicated, meaning the payoff is probably not worth the effort.

A shame indeed.

Ascovel 05-02-2012 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Agustin (Post 610148)
The chances of seeing any Legend titles being re-released are slim. Most of them would have to be relicensed (remember they're based on already existing IPs)

Is that because they were out of print for so long, or simply because Legend ceased to exist?

I was convinced Epic absorbed all of Legend's properties, so they should have some power to release the games again.

Agustin 05-02-2012 05:11 AM

According to Bob Bates, many assets were sold to GT Interactive, now owned by Atari. I'd say their interests in reselling those games are near zero. So whoever wants to tackle this must first get the rights from them.

The second part is worse: all the original licenses have expired (Gateway, Shannara, Death Gate, Callahan's, etc) so the interested party should reacquire those as well. And original IPs from Legend were never sound hits, perhaps with the exception of Spellcasting.

This comes from an exchange I had with Bates. He's tried to get them alright but it's too much of a hassle.

Arial Type 05-02-2012 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Agustin (Post 610150)
This comes from an exchange I had with Bates. He's tried to get them alright but it's too much of a hassle.

What about Eric the Unready? I thought it was one of the better known Legend titles, and the IP shouldn't belong to anyone, so he might even come up with a sequel...

Agustin 05-02-2012 08:52 AM

I couldn't tell... It's one of the best Legend titles for sure but probably not one of the better known. I think securing the license for just one game is out of the question.

Perhaps the whole Spellcasting series, Eric and Time Quest would be more enticing. But remember: those were by no means the most successful ones.

Arial Type 05-02-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Agustin (Post 610193)
I couldn't tell... It's one of the best Legend titles for sure but probably not one of the better known. I think securing the license for just one game is out of the question.

Perhaps the whole Spellcasting series, Eric and Time Quest would be more enticing. But remember: those were by no means the most successful ones.

Agreed. I doubt adding Spellcasting and TimeQuest to the pack will help the sales much. All of them are too dated. I'm not even sure if any of the GOG releases or Kickstarter sequels will work if Bob decides to resurrect Legend - well, maybe with the exception of Blackstone Chronicles that still looks good and that was supposed to be a series of games anyway. That's a trap.

Ah, I really wish to see Bates, Dahlgren and Verdu back to adventure business :frown:

dave_minall 05-03-2012 05:24 AM

I'm addicted to GOG also. I have all 3 tex games, GK1 & 2, The Feeble Files, Broken sword 1 (DC) and I will soon purchase Little Big Adventure 2 and the Gobliiins pack.

It does however really need 3 Skulls of The Toltecs.

Schneckchen ^.^ 05-03-2012 05:51 AM

Chrissie - not sure if that was the original question but if you haven't played these yet, the best adventure games you can get on GoG right now are the Gabriel Knight games.

also check out:

The Tex Murphy games
Broken Sword 1 & 2
Simon the Sorcerer 1 & 2
Syberia
The Last Express
Phantasmagoria
Normality - if you don't mind 1st person... but I loved that game.

CoyoteAG 05-03-2012 09:25 AM

It's funny that I just saw this thread. Last weekend I went over to GOG and just went on a shopping spree of old adventure games. I seriously went beserk.

I hadn't played Phantasmagoria I or II in so many years so I bought those and played them over the weekend. Such fun!

I also bought all of the "Quest" games, literally. All of the Space Quests, Kings Quests, and Police Quests. I also bought Normality, Simon the Sorcerer 1 & 2, Little Big Adventure 1 & 2. I couldn't stop myself. Some I've played a long time ago and some I've never played.

I have months of nostalgia ahead and I'm super excited!

chrissie 05-03-2012 09:29 AM

Thanks Schneckchen for the recommendations!

I have played all of the GK games in the past & agree they are the best adventures & recently got GK 1 again from GOG to be able to play on Win 7.

I downloaded The Last Express from Bigfish games which I would have been better off getting from GOG as it is DRM free - I'm almost at the end - I've just got a bit of a timed bit to do which I'm not so good at but was planning on replaying it as I think I missed quite a lot!

I've played the Broken Sword games a few times & also Syberia which I've only got a consol version for - is the GOG version point & click?

I've got Simon the Sorceror 1 & 2 on disc which I've never been able to install! :frusty:

I'll be definitely be taking advantage of the Tex Murphy games & Phantasmagoria on GOG. I hadn't thought about Normality - I have a slight preference for 3rd person but a few of my favourite games have been in
1st so I don't mind!

I looked on ebay to try & get 3 Skulls of the Toltecs dave_minall -there was one available at the time but it was just a ridiculously high price!

There are so many older games that I've either missed out on or have disc versions that just won't install so it would be great if GOG could get a lot more of them!

Panthera 05-03-2012 11:38 AM

Syberia 1 and 2 are pure point-and-click adventure games. Absolutely worth getting, don't know how the console version is, but they play beautifully on the pc.

chrissie 05-03-2012 11:55 AM

Thanks Panthera, the consol versions of the Syberia games are controlled by gamepad so it would be a joy to play them again using point & click!

ozzie 05-03-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arial Type (Post 610196)
Ah, I really wish to see Bates, Dahlgren and Verdu back to adventure business :frown:

I couldn't agree more! I'm still kinda sad that we didn't get to see The Wheels of Time like it originally was intended. Though the concept sounded impossibly ambitious anyway, and it wasn't necessarily wholly an adventure game either, but certainly something else than the first person shooter we got...

Anyway, Mission Critical wasn't a licensed IP either. Dunno how successful it was. I would love to see it on GOG, DotEmu or similar.

millenia 05-03-2012 01:17 PM

Gabriel Knight games have very nice patches available, I recently played all three from my old cd-rom versions and they worked perfectly. So GoG purchase is not needed, though the games are so cheap that just go ahead, GoG is a good place to show your support :).

I have bought Tex and Broken Sword series (even though I had the 1st game as remastered Steam version and second as old cd version) and then some random adventures on sale. Have a long wishlist there and grabbing some of the titles on every sale.

I really hope they would get all the rare and currently badly working adventure titles.

Kolorabi 05-04-2012 01:02 AM

I would love to see the Legend games on GOG as well, even if licensing issues prevent some of the best ones from showing up there. Unfortunately GOG seems more and more focused on releasing new games these days... they even stopped calling themselves "Good Old Games" :pan:

CoyoteAG 05-04-2012 09:43 AM

I can't get the GOG version of Pandora Directive to work on my PC. ;(

Schneckchen ^.^ 05-04-2012 01:43 PM

Did you check here?

http://www.gog.com/en/forum/tex_murp...es/#1335680993

Post whatever problem you're having on that forum if it's not already been asked. Maybe someone will help you out!

CoyoteAG 05-04-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schneckchen ^.^ (Post 610551)
Did you check here?

http://www.gog.com/en/forum/tex_murp...es/#1335680993

Post whatever problem you're having on that forum if it's not already been asked. Maybe someone will help you out!

Thanks...I have already checked that out and a bunch of other sites and no one seems to know how to fix it. The problem is actually with Overseer and not Pandora's Directive like I originally said.

seebaruk 05-05-2012 03:39 PM

I love how they've got lots of the old horror adventures that're bloody hard to find/run - 7th Guest, Dark Fall, Sanitarium etc. If they ever got Blackstone Chronicles, I Have No Mouth... and Amber: Journeys Beyond I'd probably mess my pants. Haven't had a PC that'll run them in years.

inm8#2 05-05-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by seebaruk (Post 610730)
I love how they've got lots of the old horror adventures that're bloody hard to find/run - 7th Guest, Dark Fall, Sanitarium etc. If they ever got Blackstone Chronicles, I Have No Mouth... and Amber: Journeys Beyond I'd probably mess my pants. Haven't had a PC that'll run them in years.

I ran Blackstone Chronicles on an XP system no problem a couple years ago. Not sure about I Have No Mouth....

For Amber: Journeys Beyond, use Squirt the Cat's installer.

This worked well for me in XP except for one part near the end of the game where you have to type something. I simply couldn't pass that part, but someone posted a save file allowing people to have the password entered and finish the game.

http://www.squirtthecat.com/forum/vi....php?f=12&t=26

seebaruk 05-05-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by inm8#2 (Post 610731)
I ran Blackstone Chronicles on an XP system no problem a couple years ago. Not sure about I Have No Mouth....

For Amber: Journeys Beyond, use Squirt the Cat's installer.

This worked well for me in XP except for one part near the end of the game where you have to type something. I simply couldn't pass that part, but someone posted a save file allowing people to have the password entered and finish the game.

http://www.squirtthecat.com/forum/vi....php?f=12&t=26

Sweet, thanks for the Amber tips mate, I'll be trying those tomorrow! I had Blackstone working on my old XP but when I upgraded it kept crashing out on the intro. I only get to enjoy the fantastically cheesy voiceover for a few mins now...better than nowt, I guess :D

Arial Type 05-05-2012 04:21 PM

Actually, I Have No Mouth... is compatible with ScummVM.

Collector 05-06-2012 12:49 AM

Many of the GOG releases make use of DOSBox and ScummVM to make them run on modern systems. Its the Windows only games can be more involved to get running properly. GOG is great if you do not already own the game, but there are often third party solutions if you do.

jhetfield21 05-06-2012 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seebaruk (Post 610730)
I love how they've got lots of the old horror adventures that're bloody hard to find/run - 7th Guest, Dark Fall, Sanitarium etc. If they ever got Blackstone Chronicles, I Have No Mouth... and Amber: Journeys Beyond I'd probably mess my pants. Haven't had a PC that'll run them in years.

I have Dark Fall but never had any problem running it in Win7.Did you try the usual administrator rights/compatibility mode(windows sth) ??

seebaruk 05-06-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jhetfield21 (Post 610774)
I have Dark Fall but never had any problem running it in Win7.Did you try the usual administrator rights/compatibility mode(windows sth) ??

Yeah, sadly kept glitching out on my laptop - and my patience isn't what it used to be. Back in the day I'd spend hours trying to get old games to work, these days I give up after 10 mins :P

Cheers for the tips on ScummVM etc guys, I'll give that one a bash too. I really should've just kept my old laptop instead of throwing it out, was a dumbass move :frusty:

Adventurere No.1 05-06-2012 07:40 AM

Help, if possible ... I replay now all GOG's Space Quests Releases i am at the 5th part .
1st the color was horrible i fixed it in the compatibility mode and checked the 256 color appearance and i alright passed this problem,... now the game take a lot of time loading from screen to another even when i save or load my progresses ...
did anyone had the same issue with GOG SQ's or with any other games of GOG?

JuntMonkey 05-06-2012 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Adventurere No.1 (Post 610821)
Help, if possible ... I replay now all GOG's Space Quests Releases i am at the 5th part .
1st the color was horrible i fixed it in the compatibility mode and checked the 256 color appearance and i alright passed this problem,... now the game take a lot of time loading from screen to another even when i save or load my progresses ...
did anyone had the same issue with GOG SQ's or with any other games of GOG?

Does GOG use ScummVM with those games? If not you might be better off just using that and forgetting about whatever GOG uses.

Adventurere No.1 05-06-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JuntMonkey (Post 610824)
Does GOG use ScummVM with those games? If not you might be better off just using that and forgetting about whatever GOG uses.

no.. i purchased them with Dosbox player, but maybe i can write them about using them with ScummVM since i have no idea how to add them to myself to my ScummVM

Kazmajik 05-10-2012 05:55 AM

I wish GOG would get the Quest for Glory games....

Hey, my wish is granted!
http://www.gog.com/en/news/release_quest_for_glory_i_v

Siddhi 05-10-2012 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazmajik (Post 611231)
I wish GOG would get the Quest for Glory games....

Hey, my wish is granted!

This is awesome!

Gonchi 05-10-2012 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazmajik (Post 611231)
I wish GOG would get the Quest for Glory games....

Hey, my wish is granted!
http://www.gog.com/en/news/release_quest_for_glory_i_v

:\ <- tears of joy.

Hopefully now more people will be able to play this glorious series.

Kurufinwe 05-10-2012 07:05 AM

Finally! I never understood why it was the only Sierra series that hadn't been re-released digitally. Now people have no excuse not to have played these fantastic games.


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