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Old 03-08-2012, 02:23 AM   #1
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Default Your ALL time favorite AG heroes?! .. (an optional Poll)

i was thinking it might be good idea to make a thread where everyone (Not Every Single one for sure) would mention his 15 Fav Adventure heroes and maybe i after a month or so of working on eliminating the less mentioned ones and gather the most and put them in a poll at last?!

would members here (especially old ones) be interested in taking a part into this ,just by only doing one post of their fav heroes ,or will i get those neglecting negative comments "hey what the heck!! we already have the greatest adventure of all time, WHY bother? "

i just see there are some great Heroes of adventures (favorite/well crafted/memorable....your choice!) but not must really appear in such great great games
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would members here (especially old ones)
Hey, how lovely, I qualify!

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just by only doing one post of their fav heroes
Heroes only, or can I sneak a few NPCs into my list?
In no particular order, heroes only:

Zoe (Dreamfall)
Rincewind (Discworld)
Gabriel Knight (Gabriel Knight series )
Edna/Harvey - who are in fact one and the same person (Edna & Harvey: The Breakout)
Tex Murphy (Tex Murphy series )
Ben (Full Throttle)
Manny (Grim Fandango)
Robert Cath (The Last Express)
Lewton (Discworld Noir)
Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones series )

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My favourite heroes:

- Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones series)
- Ben (Full Throttle)
- Boston Low (The Dig)
- Guybrush Threepwood (Monkey Island games)
- Rincewind (Discworld I & II)
- Manny Calavera (Grim Fandango)
- Zoë Castillo (Dreamfall)
- Phoenix Wright (Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney series)
- Miles Edgeworth (Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney series; Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney Investigations)
- Lewton (Discword Noir)
- Azriel Odin (Gemini Rue)

My favourite NPCs:

- Swampy the Swampling (Simon the Sorcerer series)
- Murray, the demonic talking skull (Curse of Monkey Island and later Monkey Island games)
- Glottis (Grim Fandango)
- Salvador Limones (Grim Fandango)
- Wonkers the Watilla (Dreamfall)
- Death (Discworld series)
- Missile (Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective)

Absolute favourite out of both lists is Murray!
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Hey, how lovely, I qualify!



Heroes only, or can I sneak a few NPCs into my list?
its a cool idea , i thought i about that ... but can you imagine the number of of NPCs out there that can be listed!!... i guess if we are going to do this lets stick to the heroes only (as a start) and then we can make another one especially for them (NPCs)

TimovieMan and Fien as you guys would be the 1sts to submit your choices, i wish you would help me to keep this Thread a little bit organized as a reference (your lists) for other members who would also post their list later on (it gonna be a hell of a job to eliminate and gather the most repeated Names on all posted lists) ...

so i would ask to 3 things HERE (please READ) :-

1st write the title of the game (between brackets ) next to the hero's name.
2nd at least post 10 names (heroes) and maximum 15.
3rd make the list (like TimovieMan did), vertically not horizontally.

and one more thing TimovieMan and Fien would it be really bad if i bothered you guys your repost or edit your posts again and will follow you with my list .
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Best crafted is very different from favourite.

As an example I think Brian from Runaway is well crafted, but I don't like him.
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Best crafted is very different from favourite.
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sure its Oscar.. but lets make it easy here if we want to make this POLL and not to get confused or confuse others too ... Best crafted or favorite or memorable all can be phrased YOUR CHOICE!

it that cool with you?
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i ve chanced the thread title too Oscar from The Best crafted Adventure Heroes.. to The Best Adventure Heroes...
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I think the idea to find the most loved character of all times is quite good but I have several problems:

I haven't played that many AGs, so my perspective might be a little bit limited.

Most player characters that spring to mind are either idiots or jerks or just plain old hero archetypes (and I even think there is such a thing as an AG-hero-archetype) which means they cannot really be described as "well crafted" or "original" in my personal view.
(Think Larry, Guybrush, Roger Wilco, Rufus, Indy...).

This is why I would extend this list to NPCs as well (as Fien suggested). I believe it's easier to find truly original, i.e. excitingly different from the norm ones. The ones that are both surprising and more defined in terms of their motivation or - in case they really have a marginal role to play - well to the point and defined through the small amount of lines they have.

But without further ado - in no particular order - here are my (both player and non player) suggestions:

-Marquis de Singe (TOMI)
I was delighted to see such a good representation of an "age of enlightenment/baroque scientist" with all his quirks, his vanity and ruthlessness. Totally convincing French accent, too.

-Manny Calavera (Grim Fandango)
He's sympathetic, somewhat fragile, yet standing up to evil powers. A loving soul who selflessly takes upon him great hassle for the good of others.

-The Rock Bros. Ralph and Yngo (The Whispered World)
I know I'm singing my own praise here (for I translated them into their beautiful southern redneck selves) but I think from what little they have to say it's immediately clear what their respective characters are and what the relationship between them is.

-M. Papierwaite (Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse)
A man whose motivation becomes clearer and clearer throughout the season without him being too much of an all evil villain. Just a man with his own priorities and goals.

-Dr. Norrington/Yogh Soggoth (ibidem)
Very surprising. One wouldn't have expected this kind of dignified gentlemanlike attitude from one of the "Lovecraftian" Ancient Gods.

-The Little Robot (Machinarium (Does he even have a name?)).
Simply a lovable, huggable little bugger. Oh how you wish to help him achieve his goals!

-Sam (Sam & Max)
What can I say? Loyal, upright, a good detective and absolutely necessary to reign in the ruthless nihilistic extremism of his partner. (Although he would work without Max. Unlike vice versa).

(As an aside, for me as a translator it is often more interesting to work on the NPCs than on the heros. The latter tend to get quite tedious with the huge amount of lines and the ever so witty remarks, whereas the former offer the challenge to really make them work, make them consistent, believable with much less lines.
Sometimes I can just sink into some form of trance, get really deep into the character and their motivation and just put the lines down and never look back. I then usually don't even remember any particular lines until I see/hear them in the finished game. This is when I'm usually very satisfied and yes, proud of what I did).

There are several other characters that I encountered last year (where I did quite an astonishing amount of work) that would qualify to be mentioned here but of course it's no use bringing them up when nobody has yet had the opportunity to get to know them (and probably won't be able to do so for another year (or even more)) in some cases.
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sure its Oscar.. but lets make it easy here if we want to make this POLL and not to get confused or confuse others too ... Best crafted or favorite or memorable all can be phrased YOUR CHOICE!

it that cool with you?
What if I choose least favourite? Or most annoying? I mean, don't I need criteria to base my choice upon?
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I would extend this list to NPCs as well (as Fien suggested). I believe it's easier to find truly original,.
Agree!, of course but isnt that a reason that they (NPCs) should have their own poll ?

its up to you , if you want to start with a NPCs poll Only, or a mix between them ,& Heroes ,or as the way i started the thread for Heroes only !!
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My favourite adventure heroes:
( no particular order)

Gabriel Knight (Gabriel Knight games)
Manny Calavera (Grim Fandango)
George Stobbart (Broken Sword games)
April Ryan (The Longest Journey)
Lewton (Discworld Noir)
Joey Mallone (Blackwell games)

Sorry, that the list from me. Not ten names, but I don't want to put in names just to fill the list. These are truly my favourites.
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What if I choose least favourite? Or most annoying? I mean, don't I need criteria to base my choice upon?
Now you are making it impossible Oscar, i say lets discuss how it should be and the way(mechanism) to do it if you want more criteria choices/Options
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What if I choose least favourite? Or most annoying? I mean, don't I need criteria to base my choice upon?
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Best hero is me! (AFGNCAAP)
Also like:
Tex Murphy
Gabriel Knight
Tancrede de Nerac aka As-Sayf (Legend of Prophet and Assassin)
Gage Blackwell (Journey Project trilogy)
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Rincewind (Discworld)
So many Discworld characters qualify. The Beggar's my fave.

Also on my list (whether favourite or most memorable):
Swampy Simon the Sorcerer
Jonathan Hunt Yoomurjak's Ring
Moseley GK3
Erasmus QFG
Burns Flipper TLJ
Professor Samuel Hunt AGON
Grawple Rockdigger Death Gate
Astro-Chicken Space Quest
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Ray McCoy (Blade Runner)
Larry Laffer
(leisure suit larry)
Zoë Castillo
(Dreamfall)
Darren Michaels/Gordon
(Black Mirror)
Guybrush Threepwood
(Monkey Island)
Ben
(Full throttle)
Gabriel Knight
(Gabriel Knight )
Rosella
(king's Quest)
Roger Wilco
(Space Quest)
Bobbin
(Loom)
clayman
(Neverhood)
Peter Wright
(Moment of Silence)
Kate Walker
(Syberia)
Gromit
(Wallace & Gromit)
perry rhodan
(Immortals of Terra: A Perry Rhodan Adventure)
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Advenurere, you're not making it easy for people to participate in this your preliminary process of a poll:

First you set some rules/criteria, then you change said rules/criteria, then you don't want to discuss the criteria, then you suddenly want to discuss the rules...

I don't really know where you're going with this.

Here are some ways how you could pose the polling question:

"What is your all time favorite single AG hero (player character)?"

"Which are your all time favorite heros (player characters)(multiple answers)?"

"Which of the following in your opinion is the single best crafted AG hero (player character) of all times?"

"Which of the following heros are amongst the best crafted heros (player characters) of all time (multiple answers)?"

...

There is *no* such thing as a "Best Adventure Hero". At least not as long as there are *no criteria* but personal taste involved. Of course "well crafted" could narrow choices down a bit, yet it would be a matter of discussion what "well crafted" is.

I'm really sorry but if this is going to be about favorites I'm not interested. The outcome will hardly be surprising (except maybe the ranking of possibly twenty different characters *if* the sample group will exceed 1000 participants but even then - to be honest - I wouldn't give a toss).
It wouldn't have any significance beyond the fact that some people like one particular character more than another.

Well, I guess rankings aren't for me. I'd rather discuss why one or the other character can be considered "better crafted" than others.

So, please don't take this as an offense. It's just the way I see it.

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Guys sorry for inconveniences i ve changed the rules/title many times as Dan Said ...
but now, i will choose only the heroes that mostly would be mentioned at your post to make that (optional) Poll later on
Thanks DAN
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that is how it gonna work:
i will choose the most repetitive Names at end
until now the the repeated choices of AG single Heroes :-

Manny Calavera
x4
Ben x2
Zoë Castillo x2
Gabriel Knight
x2
Guybrush Threepwood
x2
Rincewind
x2
Lewton x2

All will be added to a poll in the end so doesnt matter how many times they have mentioned here as long as i can choose 15 afterall
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My favorites (in no particular order)...

Heroes/Main Characters:

George Stobbart (Broken Sword series)
Guybrush Threepwood (Monkey Island series)
Gabriel Knight (Gabriel Knight series)
Phoenix Wright (Phoenix Wright series)
Lewton (Discworld Noir)
Manuel Calavera (Grim Fandango)
April Ryan (The Longest Journey; Dreamfall: The Longest Journey)
Tex Murphy (Tex Murphy series)
Sam (Sam & Max series)
Rincewind (Discworld; Discworld II)

NPCs:

Baron Von Glower (Gabriel Knight 2: The Beast Within)
Murray the Talking Demonic Skull (Monkey Island series)
Death (Discworld Noir)
Glottis (Grim Fandango)
GLaDOS (Portal; Portal 2)
LeChuck (Monkey Island series)
The Swampling (Simon the Sorcerer; Simon the Sorcerer II)
Max (Sam & Max series)
Mosley (Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers)
Wheatley (Portal 2)
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