Gray matter 2

ycioannidis · 12-17-2011, 12:17 PM

Has anybody heard any rumors about gray matter 2? I haven't heard anything from Jane since the game was released in the US. Did it sell well? Has Jane given any interviews? There is also great silence about King's Quest series from Telltale. Has this project been cancelled?
Thanks,

Yannis

zane · 12-17-2011, 03:06 PM

id say the chances of a gray matter 2 are roughly 0%. I dont believe it sold well, but then it was also marketed pretty poorly. And it took them so long to finish gray matter....
The telltale KQ on the other hand, is most likely on the way.

Stuart · 12-17-2011, 04:35 PM

Jane Jansen is quite elusive and finding post-Gray Matter comments/interviews by her has been very difficult.

I remember it was met with a mixed reaction on here but I personally loved it and felt it was one of the most polished and interesting adventure games in years. I would love a sequel or at least more games like this that aren't so cliched and have unique storylines that keep you interested. But what seems clear is that the game did not sell well at all which seems more down to horrendous marketing by its publishers than the quality of game itself. No real promotion, no appearance on Steam where more and more PC gamers are basing their purchases now, and so on.

Graphically it may be the most beautiful AG ever - in my opinion of course. Some of the locations were amazing even if the character animations weren't. And the soundtrack was sublime and still sticks in my head.

dbringer · 12-19-2011, 10:45 AM

Gray Matter aside, this was announced a while ago:

http://www.postudios.com/cognition/

millenia · 12-21-2011, 02:32 AM

Ooo, is that a full fledged adventure or some kind of hidden object hybrid like the WMC games?

Gabe · 12-22-2011, 12:54 AM

No second Grey Matter why doesnt matter.

MartyMcFly · 12-22-2011, 03:14 AM

"Is Gray Matter a game you would like to create a sequel to in the future?

Yes, I certainly hope so."

The above quote is taken from an interview I conducted with Jane Jensen earlier this year, full interview here:

Jane Jensen Interview (Game Designer, Gabriel Knight Trilogy/Gray Matter) - Alternative Magazine Online

TopCat · 12-22-2011, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zane

id say the chances of a gray matter 2 are roughly 0%. I dont believe it sold well, but then it was also marketed pretty poorly. And it took them so long to finish gray matter....
The telltale KQ on the other hand, is most likely on the way.

Source ?! And don't say VGChartz, because as far as PC sales are concerned , unless it's a massive release, like Skyrim f.e., they suck!

MartyMcFly · 12-22-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dbringer

Gray Matter aside, this was announced a while ago:

http://www.postudios.com/cognition/

Funny you should mention that game, I've also recently interviewed Katie Hallahan and Cesar Bittar from Phoenix Online, who are making Cognition in collaboration with Jane Jensen!

Katie Hallahan and Cesar Bittar (Phoenix Online Studios) Interview - Alternative Magazine Online

TopCat, I agree that VGChartz isn't the most reliable source for smaller game sales. Plus, although Gray Matter is now difficult to buy a physical copy of (at least here in the UK), it is still readily available from a wide range of digital distributors such as GamersGate and Lace Mamba Global.

AnneS · 12-22-2011, 05:00 AM

I actually just finished playing Gray Matter yesterday and I'd love to see a sequel. I've played better adventure games, but none that was quite so on my wavelength.

Ascovel · 12-22-2011, 05:19 AM

During the announcement of Cognition at Phoenix Studios Jane said that she has all the IP rights to Gray Matter and that the key thing now is securing a good deal with a publisher (or something to that effect).

She also subtly hinted that she may be in talks on Gabriel Knight (Telltale?).

TopCat · 12-22-2011, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartyMcFly

TopCat, I agree that VGChartz isn't the most reliable source for smaller game sales. Plus, although Gray Matter is now difficult to buy a physical copy of (at least here in the UK), it is still readily available from a wide range of digital distributors such as GamersGate and Lace Mamba Global.

Gray Matter would have sold a lot more if it was available on Steam.

zane · 12-22-2011, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopCat

Source ?! And don't say VGChartz, because as far as PC sales are concerned , unless it's a massive release, like Skyrim f.e., they suck!

firstly, i dont need a source for saying "i dont believe it sold well", the source is me, i dont believe it

secondly, do you think it sold well? As far as i know the game wasnt on shelves anywhere in the US, you had to buy it online, and it wasnt on steam. While those reporting sites arent accurate, theyr not automatically more accurate for big releases.

SpeedBo · 12-22-2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zane

As far as i know the game wasnt on shelves anywhere in the US, you had to buy it online, and it wasnt on steam.

Actually they did have it in Walmart for a while.

Collector · 12-22-2011, 02:43 PM

Walmart is where I got my copy.

zane · 12-22-2011, 04:09 PM

did you do site-to-store? or were they actually stocking shelves with it???
Because i checked with walmart when it came out and they said they were only doing site-to-store.
edit: in fact, if i could still find a physical copy locally id buy it to have another copy :|

Collector · 12-22-2011, 05:29 PM

It was on the shelf. Did not have to ask for it or anything. There were several copies among all of the other stocked games.

Stuart · 12-22-2011, 07:39 PM

I'd guess the best hope for Gray Matter 2 might come from Germany (publisher)? It seems to be the only country in the world where AGs are in huge demand and still a popular genre among gamers, hence why so many AGs nowadays seem to be coming from there.

rtrooney · 12-23-2011, 07:31 PM

Please! No Grey Matter 2. The first was such a disappointment that a sequel could only make (grey) matters worse.

TopCat · 12-26-2011, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zane

firstly, i dont need a source for saying "i dont believe it sold well", the source is me, i dont believe it

secondly, do you think it sold well? As far as i know the game wasnt on shelves anywhere in the US, you had to buy it online, and it wasnt on steam. While those reporting sites arent accurate, theyr not automatically more accurate for big releases.

The game probably sold well in EUROPE... AG's are not that big in the Americas anymore. That's why most AGs are made by European developers and it usually takes AGES for an adventure game to get localized in English.

12-17-2011, 12:17 PM	#1
ycioannidis Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1	Gray matter 2 Has anybody heard any rumors about gray matter 2? I haven't heard anything from Jane since the game was released in the US. Did it sell well? Has Jane given any interviews? There is also great silence about King's Quest series from Telltale. Has this project been cancelled? Thanks, Yannis Share Share this post on Twitter

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zane Schattenjäger Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 572	id say the chances of a gray matter 2 are roughly 0%. I dont believe it sold well, but then it was also marketed pretty poorly. And it took them so long to finish gray matter.... The telltale KQ on the other hand, is most likely on the way. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Currently focussing on: Book of unwritten tales On deck: lone survivor Recently finished: donna: avenger of blood, machinarium, botanicula, grim fandango, corpse party

12-17-2011, 04:35 PM	#3
Stuart Replicant Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Great Britain Posts: 203	Jane Jansen is quite elusive and finding post-Gray Matter comments/interviews by her has been very difficult. I remember it was met with a mixed reaction on here but I personally loved it and felt it was one of the most polished and interesting adventure games in years. I would love a sequel or at least more games like this that aren't so cliched and have unique storylines that keep you interested. But what seems clear is that the game did not sell well at all which seems more down to horrendous marketing by its publishers than the quality of game itself. No real promotion, no appearance on Steam where more and more PC gamers are basing their purchases now, and so on. Graphically it may be the most beautiful AG ever - in my opinion of course. Some of the locations were amazing even if the character animations weren't. And the soundtrack was sublime and still sticks in my head. Share Share this post on Twitter

12-19-2011, 10:45 AM	#4
dbringer Antti Lehto Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Finland Posts: 2	Gray Matter aside, this was announced a while ago: http://www.postudios.com/cognition/ Share Share this post on Twitter

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MartyMcFly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 240	"Is Gray Matter a game you would like to create a sequel to in the future? Yes, I certainly hope so." The above quote is taken from an interview I conducted with Jane Jensen earlier this year, full interview here: Jane Jensen Interview (Game Designer, Gabriel Knight Trilogy/Gray Matter) - Alternative Magazine Online Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Alternative Magazine Online An online magazine offering alternative views on games, books, films, music and more!

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AnneS Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 42	I actually just finished playing Gray Matter yesterday and I'd love to see a sequel. I've played better adventure games, but none that was quite so on my wavelength. Share Share this post on Twitter

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Ascovel Spoonbeaks say Ahoy! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 1,053	During the announcement of Cognition at Phoenix Studios Jane said that she has all the IP rights to Gray Matter and that the key thing now is securing a good deal with a publisher (or something to that effect). She also subtly hinted that she may be in talks on Gabriel Knight (Telltale?). Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ A Hardy Developer's Journal - The Scientific Society's online magazine devoted to charting indie adventure games and neighboring territories

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Collector Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 775	Walmart is where I got my copy. Share Share this post on Twitter

12-22-2011, 04:09 PM	#16
zane Schattenjäger Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 572	did you do site-to-store? or were they actually stocking shelves with it??? Because i checked with walmart when it came out and they said they were only doing site-to-store. edit: in fact, if i could still find a physical copy locally id buy it to have another copy :\| Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Currently focussing on: Book of unwritten tales On deck: lone survivor Recently finished: donna: avenger of blood, machinarium, botanicula, grim fandango, corpse party Last edited by zane; 12-22-2011 at 04:36 PM.

12-22-2011, 05:29 PM	#17
Collector Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 775	It was on the shelf. Did not have to ask for it or anything. There were several copies among all of the other stocked games. Share Share this post on Twitter

12-22-2011, 07:39 PM	#18
Stuart Replicant Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Great Britain Posts: 203	I'd guess the best hope for Gray Matter 2 might come from Germany (publisher)? It seems to be the only country in the world where AGs are in huge demand and still a popular genre among gamers, hence why so many AGs nowadays seem to be coming from there. Share Share this post on Twitter

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