Sierra Vs. LucasArts - Page 5

AFGNCAAP · 07-25-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TacoBob

LucasArts all the way. When they started putting out their games on CDs with voiceactors, they got pros. Sierra hired friends and co-workers..

Like Tim Curry, Mark Hamill and John Rhys-Davies.

Mr Roboto · 07-26-2006, 02:07 AM

LucasArts even though I voted on Sierra by mistake. Main reason is SCUMM.

Mojo · 07-26-2006, 03:25 AM

No reason to compare them anymore to my mind. Both companies made great adventure games. ( Lucas games were better to mind, more polished, more funny, more 'adult' - sorry I couldn't resist

- ).
Anyway, a better thing would be to compare nowadays adventure games to Sierras/Lucas ones. Have you seen DreamFall and Broken sword, which seem to be the reference today? Do you even want to play those games? I mean, I'm a big fan of adventure games, but seeing those realistic awful 3D backgrounds ( compared to wonderful painted 15 years old Sierras/Lucas games ), I'm really disapointed.

Josho · 07-26-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tramboi

As a software developer ( a professional game developer ), I can ensure you that better software *is* better technology.

Hey, no fair throwing your experience in my face. Maybe if I'd spent some time developing games professionally, I might know more about the subject.

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Originally Posted by Tramboi

Throwing hardware at a problem is one thing, but using it in the best way is another.

I'm confused here. When you said "I don't see Sierra pushing technology, though" in your original post, was that addressing my earlier post about how Sierra fomented advances in hardware?

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Originally Posted by Tramboi

Adventure gamers are story and puzzle lovers, ain't they?
When Sierra wasn't even starting developing King's Quest 1, this charming treasure hunt, Infocom was releasing Deadline, a game whose plot can compare to Colonel Bequest, going out in 1990.

I loved Infocom, too. What's your point, and what does Infocom have to do with pushing technology?

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Originally Posted by Tramboi

I don't really think Sierra forced many players into transitionning hardware, going from AGI to SCI0 then SCI1.

I'm not sure what your definition of "many" is, but judging from the bales of letters we got, I'd most certainly say many people did -- and weren't all that happy about it. OTOH, many people ALSO transitioned from having no sound card to having an Ad-lib or MT-32 as a direct result of Sierra games, and just about everyone was overjoyed that they did.

--Josh

Tramboi · 07-26-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Josho

Hey, no fair throwing your experience in my face. Maybe if I'd spent some time developing games professionally, I might know more about the subject.

But you weren't a programmer, hence my point about technology also relating to software quality and innovation

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Originally Posted by Josho

I'm confused here. When you said "I don't see Sierra pushing technology, though" in your original post, was that addressing my earlier post about how Sierra fomented advances in hardware?

It wasn't in fact.
I was just saying that Sierra was not really setting technological milestones.
LucasFilm neither, when you think about it

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Originally Posted by Josho

I loved Infocom, too. What's your point, and what does Infocom have to do with pushing technology?

My point is that Infocom software technology was mighty impressive, putting all those games on some tiny platforms (Planetfall on a TRS80 for instance)

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Originally Posted by Josho

I'm not sure what your definition of "many" is, but judging from the bales of letters we got, I'd most certainly say many people did -- and weren't all that happy about it. OTOH, many people ALSO transitioned from having no sound card to having an Ad-lib or MT-32 as a direct result of Sierra games, and just about everyone was overjoyed that they did.

Sierra really supported a large panel of hardware, especially sound harware.
It was a powerful experience going to a friend's place and plugging Space Quest 3 on an expander!
I'd say that it was a great feat, very respectful for the gamers, to support legacy hardware for such a long time (EGA, speaker, and so on...).

Lee in Limbo · 07-26-2006, 06:55 PM

I played some LucasArts games, but I've always preferred the Sierra games, despite the dying. something about the immersion and the maturity always felt more engrossing to me.

Kingzjester · 07-26-2006, 07:23 PM

You're all insane. Sierra maturity? Lack of soul does not maturity make.

Flyboy · 07-26-2006, 07:30 PM

Sierra, but only because I've played so bloody many of them over such a long period of time. I can't say that they're necessarily better games, just more nostalgic for me personally. I love the classic LucasArts games to death, I just have more fond memories playing games like Conquest of Camelot and Colonel's Bequest.

GombeTo · 07-26-2006, 09:35 PM

Love 'em both

Junkface · 07-26-2006, 09:57 PM

My (likely bullshit) interpretation of the two companies' general philosophies is that Lucasarts would generally take a very specific, tried and true sort of approach (after the initial creation of SCUMM, of course) then polish and refine it to perfection, whereas Sierra would often just try alot of things that seemed like they'd be cool. This resulted in Lucasarts being a lot more dependable, but when Sierra got something right it could be very special and outdo most of the Lucasarts games. My general view is that Lucasarts made a lot of good to great games, one or two masterpieces and the ocassional mediocre one, while Sierra made a lot of mediocre games, some good and a decent amount of flawed masterpieces.

Lee in Limbo · 07-27-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingzjester

You're all insane. Sierra maturity? Lack of soul does not maturity make.

You may be right. But I still enjoyed Shivers more than most of the LucasArts games I've played. Call it a matter of poor taste?

guybrushgurl · 07-28-2006, 08:59 AM

Lucasarts is way better than Sierra! They've got better quality games, more replayability, super funny, and have much more memorable characters.

guybrushgurl · 07-28-2006, 09:01 AM

I like Sierra too but there aren't that many games of there's that I'd ever play again. The only ones worth replaying in my eyes is the King's Quest series.

Dasilva · 07-28-2006, 03:25 PM

*cough* QFG *cough*

Solid Snake · 07-29-2006, 06:54 AM

Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers is better than all of the LucasArts games

The Seed · 07-29-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers is better than all of the LucasArts games

And Monkey Island 2 is better than any Sierra game, whats your point?

*Melanie68* · 07-29-2006, 12:30 PM

This entire arguement is purely subjective no matter how scientific anyone tries to make it sound. If you love Sierra or Lucas Arts, I really don't think anyone will get you to change your mind. Man this is worse than religion.

Solid Snake · 07-29-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Seed

And Monkey Island 2 is better than any Sierra game, whats your point?

My point is you're wrong .

*Melanie68* · 07-29-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

My point is you're wrong .

View Poll Results: Sierra Vs. LucasArts
Sierra	48	25.53%
LucasArts	100	53.19%
I'm a huge fan of them both.	38	20.21%
I don't like either of them.	2	1.06%
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07-26-2006, 02:07 AM	#82
Mr Roboto Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11	LucasArts even though I voted on Sierra by mistake. Main reason is SCUMM. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-26-2006, 03:25 AM	#83
Mojo Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4	No reason to compare them anymore to my mind. Both companies made great adventure games. ( Lucas games were better to mind, more polished, more funny, more 'adult' - sorry I couldn't resist - ). Anyway, a better thing would be to compare nowadays adventure games to Sierras/Lucas ones. Have you seen DreamFall and Broken sword, which seem to be the reference today? Do you even want to play those games? I mean, I'm a big fan of adventure games, but seeing those realistic awful 3D backgrounds ( compared to wonderful painted 15 years old Sierras/Lucas games ), I'm really disapointed. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-26-2006, 06:55 PM	#86
Lee in Limbo It's Hard To Be Humble Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,557	I played some LucasArts games, but I've always preferred the Sierra games, despite the dying. something about the immersion and the maturity always felt more engrossing to me. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-26-2006, 07:23 PM	#87
Kingzjester Tactlessly understated Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Niceshire Posts: 2,045	You're all insane. Sierra maturity? Lack of soul does not maturity make. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-26-2006, 07:30 PM	#88
Flyboy Live Slow Die Old Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mount Real Posts: 563	Sierra, but only because I've played so bloody many of them over such a long period of time. I can't say that they're necessarily better games, just more nostalgic for me personally. I love the classic LucasArts games to death, I just have more fond memories playing games like Conquest of Camelot and Colonel's Bequest. Share Share this post on Twitter

07-26-2006, 09:35 PM	#89
GombeTo Gombeto Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 101	Love 'em both Share Share this post on Twitter

07-26-2006, 09:57 PM	#90
Junkface Grah! Grah! Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 509	My (likely bullshit) interpretation of the two companies' general philosophies is that Lucasarts would generally take a very specific, tried and true sort of approach (after the initial creation of SCUMM, of course) then polish and refine it to perfection, whereas Sierra would often just try alot of things that seemed like they'd be cool. This resulted in Lucasarts being a lot more dependable, but when Sierra got something right it could be very special and outdo most of the Lucasarts games. My general view is that Lucasarts made a lot of good to great games, one or two masterpieces and the ocassional mediocre one, while Sierra made a lot of mediocre games, some good and a decent amount of flawed masterpieces. Share Share this post on Twitter Last edited by Junkface; 07-27-2006 at 02:05 AM.

07-28-2006, 08:59 AM	#92
guybrushgurl MI Expert Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere cold and dark and covered in spiders Posts: 34	Lucasarts is way better than Sierra! They've got better quality games, more replayability, super funny, and have much more memorable characters. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ You can't match my witty repartee!

07-28-2006, 09:01 AM	#93
guybrushgurl MI Expert Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere cold and dark and covered in spiders Posts: 34	I like Sierra too but there aren't that many games of there's that I'd ever play again. The only ones worth replaying in my eyes is the King's Quest series. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ You can't match my witty repartee!

07-28-2006, 03:25 PM	#94
Dasilva Hitch-Hiker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Mediterranean Sea Posts: 4,364	cough QFG cough Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Regards, DaSilva "If you don't get out of the box you've been raised in, you won't understand how much bigger the world is." - Angelina Jolie _ <Susan falls through the floor and gets stuck> <Paco looks at her blankly> "Whats wrong with you?! Lassy would of had a firetruck here by now!" - Susan Mayer, Desperate Housewives

07-29-2006, 06:54 AM	#95
Solid Snake Slim Shady Join Date: May 2006 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 727	Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers is better than all of the LucasArts games Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ I’m gonna make you hate me cause you ain’t me.

07-29-2006, 12:30 PM	#97
Melanie68 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,907	This entire arguement is purely subjective no matter how scientific anyone tries to make it sound. If you love Sierra or Lucas Arts, I really don't think anyone will get you to change your mind. Man this is worse than religion. Share Share this post on Twitter

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