Sam and Max - Hit the road....dissapointment.
Before you all come and start flaming me, I wanted to tell you that I played Sam and Max for the first time yesterday...and I was uterly dissapointed. I played it for 20 minutes, but that was enough to observe that the game isn't funny (at least for me) and the interface is shite. (have you seen how you have a converstation - you have to press some stupid colored boxes? BOXES!!!). Anyway....I hope that Day of the Tentacle is better.
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Showing the boxes instead of actual dialogue was a very intentional decision. If you actually liked the humor instead of disliked it, the point of the boxes was that you'd know vaguely what Sam was going to ask, but since it only showed a picture of it instead of the actual sentence, you wouldn't have any of the jokes spoiled ahead of time by seeing the first sentence. It made for pretty weak dialogue puzzles though. (aka no dialogue puzzles)
Its okay if the humor just wasn't for you. I can see how the game could be off-putting to some. |
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Personally, I'd rate them equal. |
Yes but I've played all of the monkey island games and I must say that I was falling on the ground laughing at the dialogue and the absurd situation while I didn't chuckly once at Sam and Max altough I tried to in the begining...believe I tried!!!
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I think you're going to thoroughly enjoy DOTT.
I love Hit the Road, but it seems to be a game that isn't for a lot of people. I don't consider DOTT to be any less weird, but its puzzle structure is a little more coherent. |
I agree with the rest of these guys - DOTT is an excellent game, and don't let not liking Sam & Max put you off.
As for S&M, I fall into the category of people who liked the game, but didn't see quite why everyone else seemed to LOVE it. That said, I was still looking forward to the sequel... :( |
Right. Regardless of whether or not your loved Hit the Road (i loved it), it is clear that Freelance Police would have made a huge impact upon the adventure genre in a positive way. LucasArts sucks.
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I liked Sam and Max from the beginning. I played it for the first time when I was 10 years old and my English wasn't that good. A few years later I liked the game even better. That's because my English got better and lots of it's jokes rely on speech. Sam and Max use quite an arsenal of strange words. :D
Also, a lot of jokes are only funny if you know certain American facts. American pop-culture, if you will. It wouldn't surprise me if most people who dislike Sam and Max are from other regions then the US. --Erwin |
I can understand why someone might not like the game's kind of humour, most of it's pretty mean-spirited, and there's a lot of pop culture references. I thought it was a lot funnier than any other game, but that's my opinion.
Sam: Max, where should I put this so it doesn't hurt anyone we know or care about? Max: Out the window, Sam. There's nothing but strangers out there. |
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Out the window,There's nothing but strangers out there." are not funny anymore. I played Secret of monkey Island four years ago when I didn't know English very well but thought (and still think) that the game was hillirious. Now I am playing Escape from Monkey Island and I must say its one of the funniest games ever produced with a lot of pop cultural references... I can't understand how someone can say in thier right mind that Sam and Max is funnier than any of the monkey island games? (or better :D ) |
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Personally, I think Sam and Max is heavily overrated. While it was funny I found the puzzles to be a bit lame. DOTT is the much better game of the 2. In fact, it's the best adventure ever.
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Yeah, don't you hate that Cervantes dude for totally ripping off the novel from Dickens.
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I guess I fall into the minority of people who actually like Sam & Max more than Day of the Tentacle! 8-)
Anyways, I'm sorry that you're not enjoying S&M. I played it when I was very, very young; in fact, I think it was my first LucasArts adventure game. Perhaps that's the reason I look at it so fondly. |
I remember seeing a demo of Sam and Max for the first time. I didn't have a PC at the time, I was purely Amiga back then. Walking the narrow path.
But anyway, I had seen Day of the Tentacle before that, and was anxiously waiting for an Amiga version of that game. Didn't come of course, which I still find strange. It may have ended up on a lot of discs, but the Amiga should have been able to cope with it. But I guess they just gave the Amiga up after Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, which suffered even more than Monkey Island 2 for not having a harddrive. Amigas with a HD wasn't that common back then. But to the point. When I first saw Sam and Max, I thought it was a childs game, what with the cute graphics and such. But what got me the most was the interface, which I really didn't like at the time. I thought, "hell, that looks like a Sierra game!". Although I was a big fan of certain Sierra games, Police Quest and Leisure Suit Larry were among my favourites, I didn't really like it when they switched to the icon-based interface. And when my favourite adventuregame developer went the same way, I was not impressed to say the least. The point is, when I tried that demo so long ago, I wasn't really impressed with the game. I completed the game for the very first time 2 years ago or so, and thought it was among the greatest adventures ever. I also didn't get to play DOTT before 2-3 years ago either, and I thought that was even better. Sam and Max have a genuine feel among the LucasArts games, as much as the others do. Although I think DOTT is a better game, Sam and Max is worth a good chance from anyone. And no, it's not overrated. It's humour isn't bad. It's very good and genuine, but not for everyone. That's up to the individual. |
When did DOTT become more critically acclaimed than Sam And Max? I remember all the magazines raving about Samnmax issue after issue back in the day, hardly saw any info about DOTT. It's probably because time travel is more intresting then searching for a soggy bigfoot, but Samnmax is more entertaining IMO.
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In my opinion, S&M is the better game. It's maybe because I have played it about 7 or 8 times, while DOTT no more than 3. Anyway, I like S&M best, but DOTT is in no way worse. It's just taste.
Let's say it this way. I didn't see Sanitarium in the top 20 from the day before yesterday. However, imo, it's one of the best games ever. Not just adventure games, all kind of games! So, it's a matter of taste, or a matter of putting up with games' flaws, or anything imaginable :) |
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EDIT: For more info look here - http://www.mobygames.com/game/versions/p,2/gameId,719/ |
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Mobygames is wrong a heck of a lot.
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Well, I've been following the Amiga market since 1990/91 (I've been an Amiga-nut since then), and I've never read a review or even preview of DOTT on the Amiga. The game was NEVER released, there's no doubt in my mind. I probably know more about amiga games than I know about PS2 games, as I've tried close to 80-85% of the amiga games ever released.
And no, DOTT was not released on Amiga. You must be confusing it with a different game, like Maniac Mansion or something. And please Do provide us with screenshots, 'cause I'd very much want to be wrong... ;) |
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hmmm... you have this demo still? If not, you don't know of any possible clues which could lead me to this particular demo, like which magazine it was from and so.
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Sam&Max is a difficult game to judge. It has difficult puzzles with very few clues - something quite rare in a Lucasarts adventure - and it has the most brutal and subtle sense of humor alternating during the game. You have the VERY GOOD JOKE of "at least there was no one in that bus", and then subtle parodies, like those clerks which look exactly the same wherever you are, that stupid attraction called "The biggest ball of wool" (or whatever the name, I played it in spanish, sorry), and above it all, that memorable, destructive, almost punkish ending. It's the most nihilistic adventure Lucasarts made, and curiously enough, it reminds me the kind of humor you found in "Mars Attacks", another neglected masterpiece.
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Well, I prefer S&M to DOTT, and consider it to be better in almoust every aspect, from humor to puzzles. And if talking about cliche situations, DOTT is far less original in its humor then S&M as most of it is turned around different cartoonish situations/animations, which are taken from different famouse cartoons. While in S&M it is usually based on the characters and the phrases they said, and american culture (which I'm not a part of, but nevertheless find many jokes very funny).
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i think they are both classic but they are different so theres no point comparing em... i bet if sam and max freelance police was released..and successful we prob woulda got a day of the tentacle sequel 2 :frown:
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I clearly remember Amiga magazines going all :( when news about DOTT being cancelled broke though, and I'm 100% certain that it was not released for the Amiga. |
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The version I played was an unofficial port according to the good people at eab.abime.net. And it's not the SCUMMVM version either.
Here's the thread. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...678#post143678 |
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