02-24-2010, 01:08 PM | #61 |
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Me too! (Though having buggered around with my CD-Rom & DVD Drives, I may have to play through day 1 again. Still, I'll survive ;-)).
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02-24-2010, 01:57 PM | #62 |
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I'm ready too.
It has only been a year since I last played GK2, so I kinda sped through the first chapter. As in GK1, the first chapter is nice, but doesn't really pull me in yet. It is still to...how to put it...realistic? In the here and now? It will not be until the next day that the story will deepen, get its flavour. As for the Spoiler: As for the old/new Gabriel. I think I like both. I like the explanation about him being less sarcastic because he has lost Malia. Never though about that, but it so makes sense! I also think this Gabriel fits in with the atmosphere of the story, a bit dark... Anyways, I'm ready for chapter 2: let the story begin!
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02-24-2010, 04:15 PM | #63 |
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I'm ready too! Although I don't know if I would be able to play until the weekend, but I should be ok, providing that I remember must of the puzzles...
@DaveyB and Fien: Thanks for the translations, I figured it wouldn't be anything special or that we couldn't deduce it by what is happening and body language and such... still is great to get to understand everything, makes me feel more immersed |
02-25-2010, 02:20 AM | #64 |
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I am ready as well
BTW Andrea, could you post a screenshot with the bible & other books at the Huber farm? There is no such bookcase in my version of the game. Last edited by KasiaD; 02-25-2010 at 03:30 AM. |
02-25-2010, 03:52 AM | #65 |
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Ready and willing!
Incidentally, for anyone following the playthrough but not playing along, or anyone who might have missed it first time, check here for video evidence of some funky 90's womens clothing courtesy of Ubergrau's secretary (first 25 seconds should suffice!). Also check out the infamous sausages at about 6 minutes 20! Video is entirely composed of action on day one so should be completely spoiler free for anyone who has finished it, but as an uber-hyper-conscientious-over-the-top safety measure don't watch beyond 7 minutes if you are concerned you may not have seen every last detail of Marienplatz on day one (no spoilers for story or puzzles in any event). |
02-25-2010, 04:32 AM | #66 |
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Later today I will post Chapter Two.
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I haven't played Day 1 yet but I will play Day 1 and 2 by over the weekend to catch up. I just replayed the game within the last year so I remember a lot. This is such a fantastic game. I can't wait to get to some of the later chapters. Spoiler: When I first played GK2, I had only played GK1 without the speech pack so I never associated Gabe with Tim Curry. I was still a bit disappointed with Gabe at first mostly because I thought he lacked so much of the humor from GK1. However, I grew to love this Gabe by the end of the game. From the get go I thought Grace was fantastic. Exactly what I pictured the "real life" Grace to be during GK1. Spoiler: Day 1 isn't the most riveting day but it sets a tone. |
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02-26-2010, 04:23 AM | #68 |
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CHAPTER TWO
This is not the first time Rittersberg has seen the work of a werewolf...
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02-26-2010, 12:47 PM | #69 |
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One minor flaw with GK2 is the English voices/accents of the German characters. Almost all characters speak English with perfect grammar, excellent range and appropriacy of vocabulary and expression...yet most speak with a cliched German accent like something out of a bad WWII movie. As a teacher of English to adults, I can vouch that (virtually) no German speaks like this. They might say "I wisited (instead of visited) my mother at the weekend" , but certainly not "Vat shall I do viz zat?". Maybe the worst perpetrator is Michael who (apart from being wonderfully camp as mentioned ) has a dreadful fake German accent. Shame Jane Jensen didn't get that bit sorted out better.
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This was the first GK game I played, so I thought of Dean Erickson as THE Gabriel Knight. When I first played GK3 I found the Tim Curry version kind of rude and annoying. I like his personality better in GK1 than GK3, I think. Now, having played them all and with the perspective of many years, I see that GK2's Gabe isn't as clever with his jokes as he could be. But the character still works for me.
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02-26-2010, 08:32 PM | #71 |
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Are we allowed to start talking about Chapter 2 now?
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Since Andrea has already posted it, I think we're allowed. Aren't we, Andrea?
Well, I've finished day two. I think it was easy. Except for the part that Spoiler: A few surprises in this day. Like Spoiler:
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A lot of background gathering in this chapter. I think the next chapters are where the game really takes off. I love playing as Grace. The interactions between Gerde and Grace are great. Grace can be a witch() when she thinks someone is trying to take something that she believes is hers.
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02-27-2010, 06:36 PM | #76 |
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I really like this chapter. I love the atmosphere of Rittersberg and the whole research and background stories. I know it may not be the most exiting, but if there's something I love in adventure games and specially GK is all the realism and historical background that we get to learn. I loved playing as Grace, it gives the whole Shattenjager universe a new perspective and it complements perfectly with Gabe's side.
I think my favorite thing in this chapter, other than the fascinating research on the werewolves cases of course, is the tension between Grace and Gerde. It gives so much to the story and characters, I just love how Spoiler: I also love Spoiler: I just get so fascinated with seeing how the history of the Shattenjagers start to unfold before us. Whereas in GK 1 Gabe just starts to learn about this, now we become more acquainted with the history behind the shattenjagers and things that had happened to them, even if just for this particular case. Doesn't makes you want to dig that library to look what they have had to deal with over the centuries? Wow fov I was wondering about that too! Spoiler: |
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First of all, sorry! I'm a little late this time, but this week-end has been really busy and I'm still recovering from all the 'run here', 'do that', 'go there' and so on. Yesterday I was so tired - I can't remember the last time I walked so much - that I couldn't even muster the force to play Mass Effect 2. Anyway, here's my comment on Chapter Two.
Schloss Ritter: from VGA to FMV Schloss Ritter, which we got a change to see at the end of Sins of the Fathers has been completely overhauled for The Beast Within, a thing in-game cleverly masked by the actual renovation the castle underwent, thanks to the money Gabriel snatched from the Voodoo Hounfour. The schloss' general appearance has become less stark and wintry, and more cozy and homely, with warm wooden tones, rich carpets and dainty decorations substituting the grimy and bare stone walls seen in the first adventure. On the other hand, the main bedroom has remained pretty much the same, and only the mantelpiece has ostensibly changed from Sins of the Fathers, along with the four-poster bed (now a simpler one) and some general furniture (gone is the mirror, and we've gained a wardrobe). The Schattenjager library, like the hall, has been revamped in more a drastic way and it is the only location that really bears little to no resemblance with what we've seen in the first game: there is a large window in the room now, allowing more light to flow in, and the bleak stone has given way to warm plaster covering the walls, while the bookcases have been rearranged in a more tidy way. We've also gained many adornments, like a Madonna statue and some Medieval weapons on the walls. The intent of these renovations - beside being obviously motivated by budgetary reasons - is to make Schloos Ritter a less foreboding, alien place and more an operational base for the Schattenjager and his assistants, like we can see in Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned's opening graphic novel, where Gabriel and Grace both work as a team in the library. However, there is even a more subtle reason: aside from the opening sequence, Schloss Ritter is Grace's main location and the ambiance of the castle - again: cozy, homely, warm - serves two purposes: in Chapter Two (and part of Chapter Four), this atmosphere is in clear contrast with Grace's hostility toward Gerde, to the point that the homely atmosphere itself fuels Grace's suspicions toward Gabriel's relationship with the housekeeper ('the love-nest in the Alps'). In the latter half of Chapter Four and in Chapter Six, on the other hand, the atmosphere will mirror... Spoiler: Occult Lore: On Werewolves - Part 2 Not without reason did the werewolf in past centuries appear as one of the most terrible and depraved of all bond-slaves of Satan. He was even whilst in human form a creature within whom the beast - and not without prevailing - struggled with the man. Masqued and clad in the shape of the most dreaded and fiercest denizen of the forest the witch came forth under cover of darkness, prowling in lonely places, to seek his prey. By the force of his diabolic pact he was enabled, owing to a ritual of horrid ointments and impious spells, to assume so cunningly the swift shaggy brute that save by his demoniac ferocity and superhuman strength none could distinguish him from the natural wolf. [...] what other end, what other reward could he look for than the stake, where they burned him quick, and scattered his ashes to the wind, to be swept away to nothingness and oblivion on the keen wings of the tramontane and the nightly storm. Montague Summers, The Werewolf in Lore and Legend, Dover 2003, pp. 123-124 (originally published in 1933 as The Werewolf) Real-life Locations: Marienplatz Unfortunately, Rittersberg doesn't exist, but Ipkiss - who goes under the name of GKFAN4LIFE on this forum - has surprisingly found its real counterpart! I'm going to link to his videos, but, if this is your first time through the game, it's perhaps safer to delay them until Chapter Six, because they might contain spoilers. I'll try my best to signal which videos are safe to watch for everybody. Real-Life Tour to Rittersberg Castle (exterior) (Spoilers from Ch. 1 and Ch. 2) Real-Life Tour to Rittersberg Castle (interior) (No spoilers) Real-Life Tour of Rittersberg Square (very mild spoilers from Ch. 1, Ch. 2 and a two-second clip from Ch. 3) Real-Life Tour of Rittersberg Post Office (Spoilers from Ch. 4) Chapter Two in the Novel Christian Von Ritter's journal was easily found by the dates written on the spine: 1838-1864. Curiously, as with the journal of Gunter Ritter that Wolfgang* had sent to New Orleans, the handwritten entries were in English. Could the family have originated in the Green Isles? Their patron saint, St. George, was England's own. Such a history was undoubtedly in these journals somewhere, but she'd have to take one mystery at a time. Jane Jensen, Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within, Roc 1998, pp. 67 * Actually, Jane Jensen mistakingly refers to 'Werner' here. I corrected the name in Wolfgang to support the in-game canon. I hope that this paragraph - coupled with the notion that Gabriel Knight 4 was to be set in England - will answer the question about the diaries' language I believe I've read somewhere in this thread or in our past playthrough.
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Chapter two is really entertaining and fun -all the research and exploration
However I was really dissapointed by Grace here... She morphed into some kind of jealous-obsessed shrew with high pitched voice and manners of a bulldozer - just pathetic. From previous game we know she is a buddhist and practises tai chi - obviously not hard enough. How to explain that Gerde, a hausfrau from a village shows more dignity than our Harvard-educated (it was Harvard, wasn't it?) Grace is beyond me. GK4 set in England - that would be a dream come true.. But seeing the direction the game market drifts towards, I would not be surprised it turned out to be a casual |