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Old 07-06-2009, 10:48 AM   #21
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I'm really not sure what's the target audience for this release. Obviously new gamers would not be excited about playing old games, and most old-timers already have these games and can play them perfectly well on ScummVM. I'm actually pretty sure the sales on steam are going to be pretty bad, which would just re-assure Lucasarts that there is no market for adventure games.
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I'm really not sure what's the target audience for this release. Obviously new gamers would not be excited about playing old games, and most old-timers already have these games and can play them perfectly well on ScummVM. I'm actually pretty sure the sales on steam are going to be pretty bad, which would just re-assure Lucasarts that there is no market for adventure games.
I agree...this is a lousy idea. This will only hurt more than help i believe.
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This is Loomed for failure.

I am excited that the *new* LucasArts wants to focus on getting new fans with their existing IP, and I think the MI:SE is definitely the right way to go, but this I don't think is going to be much of a success.

Now, this is the first batch of games, so we'll see. But so far, I don't see people reading this and saying "Ooh, I can't wait to play those same old adventures again!" I see them saying "Ooh, maybe the next batch will have X-Wing, or Tie Fighter, or Super Star Wars, or Indy's Greatest Adventures..." which makes sense because they are games that don't run in ScummVM, don't play ideally in DosBox, or only work in an emulator that pretty much requires illegal acquisition of a ROM. Not to mention, none of those are adventure games.

Where was the "AWESOME NEWS" for the old fans? This is barely worthy of a sidebar that should've been run alongside the MI:SE announcement.
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This is Loomed for failure.

I am excited that the *new* LucasArts wants to focus on getting new fans with their existing IP, and I think the MI:SE is definitely the right way to go, but this I don't think is going to be much of a success.

Now, this is the first batch of games, so we'll see. But so far, I don't see people reading this and saying "Ooh, I can't wait to play those same old adventures again!" I see them saying "Ooh, maybe the next batch will have X-Wing, or Tie Fighter, or Super Star Wars, or Indy's Greatest Adventures..." which makes sense because they are games that don't run in ScummVM, don't play ideally in DosBox, or only work in an emulator that pretty much requires illegal acquisition of a ROM. Not to mention, none of those are adventure games.

Where was the "AWESOME NEWS" for the old fans? This is barely worthy of a sidebar that should've been run alongside the MI:SE announcement.
And that just shows to me that the managers on Lucas Arts havenīt changed that much. They believe that any crap that they feed us we will enjoy.
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Meh. Is the Last Crusade anything like the Fate of Atlantis (definitely one of the best adventures)? I'll consider getting The Dig and maybe that if and only if they're under $10.
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The Last Crusade is not very good. But if you haven't played the Dig you should get it for any price. Same goes for Loom, by the way.
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Wow, so everyone will spend years complaining that Lucas doesn't release their old games in the US anymore, then when they announce they're going to release their old games, everyone complains it's not exciting enough news. Awesome.
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How can this at all be considered a bad idea? LucasArts has been sitting on an amazing back catalog for decades, and now that they release them people are somehow unhappy about it? Amazing.

If the offerings don't interest you, ignore them. The Steam re-releases aren't killing babies or clubbing seals or something, they're simply passively existing, available for anyone to purchase. Again, how is this bad?


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Not exactly the news I was hoping for. I already have these games and can play them any time I want. It's good for those who no longer own them or never played them though. What I'm hoping for is for LucasArts to make a new adventure game.
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Wow, so everyone will spend years complaining that Lucas doesn't release their old games in the US anymore, then when they announce they're going to release their old games, everyone complains it's not exciting enough news. Awesome.
I never ever complaind about them not releasing their old games, so do I have your premmision to complain now?
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How can this at all be considered a bad idea? LucasArts has been sitting on an amazing back catalog for decades, and now that they release them people are somehow unhappy about it? Amazing.

If the offerings don't interest you, ignore them. The Steam re-releases aren't killing babies or clubbing seals or something, they're simply passively existing, available for anyone to purchase. Again, how is this bad?


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It's not so much that it's a bad idea, but that they hyped it saying it was going to be "something new and awesome for old fans."

This is awesome for people who haven't played the games. People who have not played the games cannot be "old fans."

Sure, it's awesome for old fans who haven't played the games in awhile or no longer have them, and now they can buy them again, but just because there's a way to acquire them other than hunting them down on eBay or where have you, that doesn't exactly make it "new."

Sure, the next list of games might be awesomer, but I was really expecting some sort of new content here. Maybe not as "new" as the MI:SE, but... something!

Again, I see the misstep here on there part mostly be in how they hyped it. This is the Star Wars films being sold in a new collector's tin boxed set. Yeah, it's great if you don't have them, but if you do, what do you get? A tin box.

We're not even getting a tin box!
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It's not so much that it's a bad idea, but that they hyped it saying it was going to be "something new and awesome for old fans."
if that is what was said word for word. Then this is only the beginning of the announcement. This isn't new, nor is it really aimed at old fans.
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Not every adventure fan currently owns or has played these games so this is their opportunity.

This is great news and I don't understand the negativity.

Now these old classics will be more widely available and cost effective rather than trying to get them on ebay.

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LOOM was released in both a 16-color EGA floppy disk version, as well as a 256-color CD-ROM version with full voiceover (so-called "talkie" support); Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis was released on both floppy disk and then CD-ROM a year later; and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure was released on both floppy and CD as well ...

... but the Steam version of The Last Crusade isn't the CD-ROM version that was released in 1992! LucasArts tells us that the version of The Last Crusade that will be put on Steam is a "previously unreleased version" with "even more bugfixes" than the original CD-ROM re-release, along with a "Tandy 1000 sound engine." As for LOOM and Atlantis, you'll be seeing the CD-ROM "talkie" versions for both on Steam.

The Dig was CD-ROM only, and the other six titles being released on Wednesday only had one version. The Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition is a special case – the remastered version is obviously new, but you can switch back and forth between the "Special Edition" and the original. That "original" release is in fact the CD-ROM version of the game, not the floppy disk version, in case you were wondering.

Also of note: the copy protection system for both LOOM and The Last Crusade was to include an add-in – the "Book of Patterns" and "Grail Diary" respectively – that would have to be referenced while playing the game (take that, pirates!). LucasArts tells us they'll have PDF versions of both
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This is the Star Wars films being sold in a new collector's tin boxed set.

In a new tin box???? I am so there.
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Well, I am excited that I'll finally be able to get my hands on Loom! (I've been wanting to play that game for a long time, and piracy is not an option for me.)

I'm not disappointed at all. (But then I wasn't expecting too much in the first place either.)
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All you Naysayers make me feel Nauseous. For years ppl have been blabbering on about how good all these old games are and so finally LucasArts have decided to give us access to them again in an official capacity.

I dont think they'll care either way whether the sales are good or bad, this will all be a pre-planned marketing idea (with a touch of love) that will see its way to fruition no matter how well it does on the way. The seven steps to heaven. First step. Announce a monkey island remake, second step: announce a 5th monkey island from Telltale, 3rd step: rerelease a whole batch of golden oldies so everyone gets a little bit of excitement and starts bantering about what might happen next.

so .... whats step 4 gonna be?


Lets just be happy whilst all this is going on and enjoy some great LucasARts classics. Lets keep all the negative hype to a minimum and just have some fun. These are the games we've been raving about for years and years....finally someone listened.
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Maybe if instead of LucasArts hyping this by teasing "something new for old fans" they said "something old for new fans" I wouldn't feel like I've been lead on as much.
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Maybe if instead of LucasArts hyping this by teasing "something new for old fans" they said "something old for new fans" I wouldn't feel like I've been lead on as much.
Well, feel free to not buy it, I guess, but the rest of us are pretty excited. I'll happily pick up LOOM and FOA on Steam, plus maybe some others.
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How can this at all be considered a bad idea? LucasArts has been sitting on an amazing back catalog for decades, and now that they release them people are somehow unhappy about it? Amazing.

If the offerings don't interest you, ignore them. The Steam re-releases aren't killing babies or clubbing seals or something, they're simply passively existing, available for anyone to purchase. Again, how is this bad?
I didn't say this idea hurts anyone, just that I do not understand this decision marketing-wise. My prediction is that this would prove to be a bad idea as these games will not sell, but I would love to be found wrong.

Of course I am generally happy to see Lucasarts showing some love to its classic titles. It's just that I feel like this love is going to the wrong channels. In any case this news does not relate in any way directly to me, as I already have all the original games.

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Well, feel free to not buy it, I guess, but the rest of us are pretty excited. I'll happily pick up LOOM and FOA on Steam, plus maybe some others.
Actually, they said the released Loom version would be the CD-ROM one. If you haven't played the floppy-disk version yet, then I strongly recommend that you play it first - I really didn't like the new graphic style of the CD version, plus they removed some of the dialogs and puzzles.
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All of this is just as stupid as the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott. Jesus people, move on!
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