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UPtimist 09-22-2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rayvio (Post 559988)
I think this will come down to whether or not they design it for one and port to the other or design for both. -- usually just comes down to a bad port
I don't think that's the case with Grey Matter though, but I have to admit I've not been following the console side of the development news

There isn't a console side (in the news), aside from "Gray Matter coming for XBox 360!". All that is known is pretty much based on little tidbits of experience, all of which has been discussed here as far as I know. Oh, and that's true about it boiling down to the whole porting business (in my opinion) :)

tsa 09-22-2010 01:00 AM

Nice to see a website with so much clear information as the Gray Matter website.

zenger 09-22-2010 12:11 PM

Oppps... Amazon UK has raised the price to 25 GBP (PC) and changed the release date to February 25th. I'm glad I pre-ordered it

Roper Klacks 09-22-2010 01:45 PM

This is ridiculous... what the hell is DTP/Mamba/whatever PR department doing? Do they even have a PR department? We should know about delays through them, not from online stores...

Its like they are deliberate trying to alienate the few people that are interested in the game (not many nowadays). Its pretty obvious Gray Matter has some very serious problems, thats the only explanation i have for these constant delays and secrecy, if you don't know when a game will be ready dont announce dates.

Screw this, i'm joining the boat of people that doubt it will ever be released. I bet DNF will hit the stores first than Gray Matter (now with Gearbox developing DNF its not a risky bet, at all)

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Sorry i'm angry...:frown:
Deep, deep i'm still hoping for all of this to be a misunderstanding from amazon an co... but let's be honest we know it is true :\

Monolith 09-22-2010 01:52 PM

Gray Matter is more like Half-Life 2 than DNF. They are taking their time, but not wasting it.

Roper Klacks 09-22-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Monolith (Post 560040)
Gray Matter is more like Half-Life 2 than DNF. They are taking their time, but not wasting it.

At least Valve talks to their costumers and fans. We always know about their delays through them, not from online stores.

Majsan 09-22-2010 02:35 PM

I wonder if this game, no matter how good it is, will it ever be able to live up to all the hype?

Neptin 09-22-2010 02:37 PM

The German release is still listed for the end of October and it will be the only version with both English and German translations of the game.

Monolith 09-22-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Roper Klacks (Post 560041)
At least Valve talks to their costumers and fans. We always know about their delays through them, not from online stores.

Seriously. A bit of class and professionalism goes a long way, especially the dedication to the fan base. Jane could learn a think or two with who she should or shouldn't work with. Then again, I can say that about a lot of small time developers, but even Indie developers do a better job.

tsa 09-22-2010 09:25 PM

I tagged GM "Duke Nukem Forever" on Amazon. And I will cancel my order. A company that treats its customers like this deserves to die. Of course I don't mean Amazon but Grey Matter's publishers.

Phod 09-22-2010 09:43 PM

sheesh ya'll are over reacting a lot. :)

tsa 09-22-2010 10:09 PM

We disagree there.

inm8#2 09-22-2010 10:27 PM

It would be nice to hear something from the developers. I hope Jane updates her blog.

dekaneas297 09-22-2010 10:59 PM

Every time I read this "you are overreacting" argument, I tend to conclude that adventure gamer's community gets what it deserves. Exploitation, mocking, bad attitude, amateurism.

tsa 09-22-2010 11:15 PM

What do you mean by that?

tsa 09-22-2010 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monolith (Post 560040)
Gray Matter is more like Half-Life 2 than DNF. They are taking their time, but not wasting it.

How do you know? There is no evidence for that whatsoever.

dekaneas297 09-22-2010 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tsa (Post 560071)
What do you mean by that?

That no matter how bad attitude a developer/publisher/pr department towards customers has, there is an amount of gamers that don't mind. They act as if companies do us a favor and we have to bear their incompetence.

Consumer activism at it's lowest degree.

Intense Degree 09-23-2010 02:08 AM

I have absolutely no evidence for this, but do not doubt that this further delay is entirely down to the Xbox 360 version, which they seem to insist must come out at the same time as the PC version.

I really do not want to have my enjoyment of this game spoilt, but these developers/publishers seem to be doing a lot to do so. I know that release dates often get pushed back for any type of game, but for this to happen so close to what I honestly thought finally looked like the final release date...

Oh well, more time for Civ 5 I suppose. ;)

D.C. 09-23-2010 02:27 AM

Even though nothing is confirmed, I do feel a little stupid for insisting to my sister that it really is coming out this time, no really... it's pretty much official. ;) I guess Fallout: New Vegas and Fable 3 will have to suffice. :D

UPtimist 09-23-2010 03:17 AM

Whether it is again delayed or not, I think the comparison to DNF is only not very accurate, it's also a bit dumb. The situations are still very different, the time-span very much so, and I understand that someone once made the comparison and that someone agreed, but now it's all just "OMGZ, it's SO DNF! Oh snap!" Yes, yes, we get it, it's taken its time, it constantly gets delayed, a bit like the situation with DNF. Do you think the constant repeating of it will somehow make whoever is responsible (I've never bothered get the hang of it) do something different? Feel bad about themselves? Sheesh, we get it, move on. Say something constructive, seems like 1/3 of the posts is nothing but repeating that all over again, and then there's a delay and "Oh my god! I just thought of a super-cool comparison! This is SO DNF!".

Anyways, seems that something's been screwed up again. Still, it's Schrödinger's cat here: since we can't know if the delay is for a good reason or not and whether it's ever going to be released or not, we can't make any conclusions and can only say that it's either neither or both.


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