Broken Sword 4: The Angel of Death - finished it (Beware potential spoilers) - Page 5

radiohodet · 03-13-2007, 01:38 AM

I wonder what kind of adventure games many people on this forum like if you think this game sucks so much. In my opinion it's one of the best adventure games in recent years. The story was great, George is in top form, and the locations wonderful. The only problem, and what keeps this game from being a really great game in my opinion is the horrible ending, as almost everyone has pointed out... that was so disappointing.

Then again, I really like Broken Sword 3 as well, and don't think that game is much worse than Broken Sword 1...

eriq · 03-13-2007, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marsan

"I don't know to be honest. Personally i think it needs to go back to basics - eg back to bs1 and pick up where that game left off. Proper 2d, less 'bigging up' of the scenario, etc. This may require a very different publishing environment though."

Just to sum up. I agree with him fully

I second that! Bring on the next-gen 2D graphics!!

04-03-2007, 09:48 AM

Just finished it.

In short, quite good game, terrible ending, albeit quite sad.

I was actually expecting

Spoiler:
to see an angel of darkness skeleton with wings flying around at the end spitting fireballs or something.

Yes, this broken sword does seem to have been rushed and will never be a classic.

vivasawadee · 04-04-2007, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman5

Yes, this broken sword does seem to have been rushed and will never be a classic.

The interface is one of the worst I have ever experienced in an adventure game.

Larry Emmo · 04-04-2007, 10:11 AM

I am ofcourse talking about the end of Broken Sword 4 which probably ends the whole series! I just cant believe it would end like that, it's like they completely forgott about it and accidently shiped the game without an end. I feel so cheated, after all this time and this is how it's going to end. Short and abrupt and with no class at all, I want spoil it for you but don't blink what ever you do or you'll miss it!!

CoyoteAG · 04-04-2007, 06:47 PM

Just finished the game.

Seriously, WTF?? How could they end it like that.

This was definitely, by far, the worst of the series IMO. I still enjoyed it though and wouldn't say it was even among the worst adventures I've ever played but I just loved the other three so much.

Larry Emmo · 04-10-2007, 12:02 AM

Yeah exactly it deserved a better sending off.

pointandcliklover · 04-13-2007, 02:12 AM

i thought the graphics were more detailed in the first 2 games, 3d hasnt yet got the right look. the game was quite good but the ending, ive just finished it and im thinking is that it. we know nico and george should be together and so the next game should have a proper ending with a kind of happier ever after video with them leaving for thier honeymoon or something. that leaves it open for honeymoon trobles of a templer sort. The other thing george is now the last templer knight shouldnt their be an ending around that.

i hope they make 5 and not in an episode way and hopefully with the imagination that had us gripped in the first 2 games. The stories seemed better and the plot was better constructed with a lot less crate puzzles. who could forget the goat or the little girl (did we ever find out if she was a ghost). i would also like to see more of the world, and duane with pearl. I also think they should finish were they started the blown up cafe in paris.

MasterLoo · 04-13-2007, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointandcliklover

who could forget the goat or the little girl (did we ever find out if she was a ghost).

Spoiler:
she sure was

According to Steve Ince, the brain behind the mind... eh... the thingy behind the scriptomablob...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Ince

You think I'm any less confused?

Spoiler:
Emily is definitely a ghost, killed accidentally during a game of hide and seek.

Funnily enough there was/is a recent thread on the Revolution forum about this.

Lord C · 04-15-2007, 09:19 AM

Anyone else think that it takes something away from the atmosphere of the Series that George's comments are no longer in the past but in the present tense? I always thought it added a nice novel-like feel to the narrative.

Mikekelly · 04-15-2007, 11:36 PM

it seemed the first game was loved by all - then the next three feelings are mixed on. Some love the 2, some hate it, etc.

This one some love, some don't - like 2 and 3.

I myself LOVE BS4, it's very good - plot is solid and so is the play.

A worthy addition to the series.

Henke · 04-21-2007, 01:53 PM

I think The Angel of Death is a great game. It has some weak parts but is still one of the better (100%) adventure games I played in years.

I like all games in the series except for The Sleeping Dragon which had its moments but wasn't near as good as the other games.

cwapitm · 04-21-2007, 05:53 PM

The ending was terrible, but I still liked it better than BS3 because it didn't have as many stealth puzzles.

DomStLeger · 04-22-2007, 03:51 AM

I have just finished BS4; I really liked it. It feels much more like BS1, though it still has its faults.

I agree with the ending being rushed; but thats the same issue in BS2 and BS3; only BS1 nailed the ending for me. Also 4 has alot of plot holes, and conversations towards the end of the game that don't make much sense/parts of the game that aren't clear. I have a feeling they had to rush certain elements to get the game finished; so it has some good puzzles at the end but some wierd situations

Spoiler:
Such as the tramp appearing and disappearing; though that was funny. Also the priest Mark and the mafia guy Spallaci; no explanation as to how they know each other nor why on earth they are going to help each other from now on. Also that turkish investigator just reappearing and shooting whats-her-face. All elements that could have been developed more OR just cut. Why not just make Whats-her-face-maria an evil cow? Not this bizzarre "oh I slept with you george and suddenly regret being evil" stuff.

Either way, just like BS2, and BS3 this game needed an Epilogue to round the story off. At the very least a conversation between Nico and George. An epilogue could be to see him at the funeral of whats-her-face, comforted by nico and some dialogue to explain what they did with the Ark, and how they escaped the crypt without being shot by that group of nutty priests.

Mikekelly · 04-24-2007, 07:54 PM

I'm finally finished BS4 -- a charming adventure game.

I liked it better than the third one --- lot's of fun and it played like a dream!

Some plot holes sure -- BUT it was fun and it had some great characters in it!

Hysteria · 04-28-2007, 11:21 AM

I have finished it, too. It's a great game, a lot of interesting puzzles, story, characters...
But I agree with vivasawadee and this interface problem:

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivasawadee

The interface is one of the worst I have ever experienced in an adventure game.

Terrible..
And about the ending..you are going to be suprised but I think that was ok because I don't give a damn about Anna Maria...she's bitch.

Now, let's play some Sanitarium.

Rizu · 04-28-2007, 06:52 PM

I finished the game a while back. The ending felt rather flat. In fact, the last half of the game felt so rushed, so unsatisfying. I didn't like the way some characters suddenly appeared and then left the stage for no apparent reason. Or the unexplained ways in which certain parties were connected. I actually liked Anna Maria, and I did hope that she'd stick around, so that part of the ending left me a little disappointed.

It's kinda strange that I think of the even numbered BS games as the most disappointing of the lot. Both BS2 and 4 felt rushed and incomplete to me. BS1 and 3 are, IMO, the better examples of this series.

Hysteria · 04-29-2007, 07:59 AM

Yeah, that sudden appear of some characters was completely out of reason...Like in some bad movie...

Henke · 05-01-2007, 02:45 PM

Sudden appear of characters? Did I miss something?

Hysteria · 05-01-2007, 03:34 PM

Well, what I meant was for example in the end:

Spoiler:
...when first Mark appears to save you and then suddenly Archie. I mean wtf?..

03-13-2007, 01:38 AM	#81
radiohodet Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10	I wonder what kind of adventure games many people on this forum like if you think this game sucks so much. In my opinion it's one of the best adventure games in recent years. The story was great, George is in top form, and the locations wonderful. The only problem, and what keeps this game from being a really great game in my opinion is the horrible ending, as almost everyone has pointed out... that was so disappointing. Then again, I really like Broken Sword 3 as well, and don't think that game is much worse than Broken Sword 1... Share Share this post on Twitter

04-03-2007, 09:48 AM	#83
Roman5 Guest Posts: n/a	Just finished it. In short, quite good game, terrible ending, albeit quite sad. I was actually expecting Spoiler: to see an angel of darkness skeleton with wings flying around at the end spitting fireballs or something. Yes, this broken sword does seem to have been rushed and will never be a classic. Share Share this post on Twitter

04-04-2007, 10:11 AM	#85
Larry Emmo The name says it all! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: I'm from around! Posts: 93	Worst ending ever! I am ofcourse talking about the end of Broken Sword 4 which probably ends the whole series! I just cant believe it would end like that, it's like they completely forgott about it and accidently shiped the game without an end. I feel so cheated, after all this time and this is how it's going to end. Short and abrupt and with no class at all, I want spoil it for you but don't blink what ever you do or you'll miss it!! Share Share this post on Twitter

04-04-2007, 06:47 PM	#86
CoyoteAG Dreamfall Soon! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 196	Just finished the game. Seriously, WTF?? How could they end it like that. This was definitely, by far, the worst of the series IMO. I still enjoyed it though and wouldn't say it was even among the worst adventures I've ever played but I just loved the other three so much. Share Share this post on Twitter

04-10-2007, 12:02 AM	#87
Larry Emmo The name says it all! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: I'm from around! Posts: 93	Yeah exactly it deserved a better sending off. Share Share this post on Twitter

04-13-2007, 02:12 AM	#88
pointandcliklover long live the dragons Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: kent Posts: 427	i thought the graphics were more detailed in the first 2 games, 3d hasnt yet got the right look. the game was quite good but the ending, ive just finished it and im thinking is that it. we know nico and george should be together and so the next game should have a proper ending with a kind of happier ever after video with them leaving for thier honeymoon or something. that leaves it open for honeymoon trobles of a templer sort. The other thing george is now the last templer knight shouldnt their be an ending around that. i hope they make 5 and not in an episode way and hopefully with the imagination that had us gripped in the first 2 games. The stories seemed better and the plot was better constructed with a lot less crate puzzles. who could forget the goat or the little girl (did we ever find out if she was a ghost). i would also like to see more of the world, and duane with pearl. I also think they should finish were they started the blown up cafe in paris. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ may the best thing you do tommorro be the worse thing you do today Marise-Chiko

04-15-2007, 09:19 AM	#90
Lord C Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berlin Posts: 22	Broken Sword 4 - Comments in the present Anyone else think that it takes something away from the atmosphere of the Series that George's comments are no longer in the past but in the present tense? I always thought it added a nice novel-like feel to the narrative. Share Share this post on Twitter

04-15-2007, 11:36 PM	#91
Mikekelly Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 223	it seemed the first game was loved by all - then the next three feelings are mixed on. Some love the 2, some hate it, etc. This one some love, some don't - like 2 and 3. I myself LOVE BS4, it's very good - plot is solid and so is the play. A worthy addition to the series. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ I love all third person adventure games

04-21-2007, 01:53 PM	#92
Henke Headbanger Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The North Posts: 2,233	I think The Angel of Death is a great game. It has some weak parts but is still one of the better (100%) adventure games I played in years. I like all games in the series except for The Sleeping Dragon which had its moments but wasn't near as good as the other games. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ NP: Botanicula, Catherine, Dear Esther, Okami

04-21-2007, 05:53 PM	#93
cwapitm Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 328	The ending was terrible, but I still liked it better than BS3 because it didn't have as many stealth puzzles. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "From now on we're gonna soar like eagles...eagles on POGO STICKS!!!"-Glottis Currently Playing: Gabriel Knight: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned.

04-22-2007, 03:51 AM	#94
DomStLeger Whinging Pom Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, England, UK Posts: 1,032	I have just finished BS4; I really liked it. It feels much more like BS1, though it still has its faults. I agree with the ending being rushed; but thats the same issue in BS2 and BS3; only BS1 nailed the ending for me. Also 4 has alot of plot holes, and conversations towards the end of the game that don't make much sense/parts of the game that aren't clear. I have a feeling they had to rush certain elements to get the game finished; so it has some good puzzles at the end but some wierd situations Spoiler: Such as the tramp appearing and disappearing; though that was funny. Also the priest Mark and the mafia guy Spallaci; no explanation as to how they know each other nor why on earth they are going to help each other from now on. Also that turkish investigator just reappearing and shooting whats-her-face. All elements that could have been developed more OR just cut. Why not just make Whats-her-face-maria an evil cow? Not this bizzarre "oh I slept with you george and suddenly regret being evil" stuff. Either way, just like BS2, and BS3 this game needed an Epilogue to round the story off. At the very least a conversation between Nico and George. An epilogue could be to see him at the funeral of whats-her-face, comforted by nico and some dialogue to explain what they did with the Ark, and how they escaped the crypt without being shot by that group of nutty priests. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Dom Currently Playing Tex Murphey - Under a Killing Moon (YAY GOG.com!) Recently Completed Broken Sword Director's Cut Still Get Mozilla Firefox! Forget that Chrome and IE rubbish!

04-24-2007, 07:54 PM	#95
Mikekelly Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 223	I'm finally finished BS4 -- a charming adventure game. I liked it better than the third one --- lot's of fun and it played like a dream! Some plot holes sure -- BUT it was fun and it had some great characters in it! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ I love all third person adventure games

04-28-2007, 06:52 PM	#97
Rizu Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 26	I finished the game a while back. The ending felt rather flat. In fact, the last half of the game felt so rushed, so unsatisfying. I didn't like the way some characters suddenly appeared and then left the stage for no apparent reason. Or the unexplained ways in which certain parties were connected. I actually liked Anna Maria, and I did hope that she'd stick around, so that part of the ending left me a little disappointed. It's kinda strange that I think of the even numbered BS games as the most disappointing of the lot. Both BS2 and 4 felt rushed and incomplete to me. BS1 and 3 are, IMO, the better examples of this series. Share Share this post on Twitter

04-29-2007, 07:59 AM	#98
Hysteria Passion Adventurist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Serbia Posts: 153	Yeah, that sudden appear of some characters was completely out of reason...Like in some bad movie... Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Playing: Nothing On Hold: Myst V, Treasure Island. Recently Finished: In Memoriam, Sherlock Holmes: The case of the Silver Earring, Sherlock Holmes - Case of the Rose tattoo, Ni bi ru Age of secrets, Missing: the 13th victim Wishlist: Belief & Betrayal, Gabriel Knight Series, Black Dahlia ...

05-01-2007, 02:45 PM	#99
Henke Headbanger Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The North Posts: 2,233	Sudden appear of characters? Did I miss something? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ NP: Botanicula, Catherine, Dear Esther, Okami

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05-01-2007, 03:34 PM	#100
Hysteria Passion Adventurist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Serbia Posts: 153	Well, what I meant was for example in the end: Spoiler: ...when first Mark appears to save you and then suddenly Archie. I mean wtf?.. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Playing: Nothing On Hold: Myst V, Treasure Island. Recently Finished: In Memoriam, Sherlock Holmes: The case of the Silver Earring, Sherlock Holmes - Case of the Rose tattoo, Ni bi ru Age of secrets, Missing: the 13th victim Wishlist: Belief & Betrayal, Gabriel Knight Series, Black Dahlia ...