7th Guest and 11th Hour....

The Anomaly · 11-13-2005, 09:06 PM

Does anyone remember these two games from way back for the PC? The 11th Hour is the sequel. I bought both of them and they never really worked good on my computer. I always wanted to play really bad though. What did you think?

MdaG · 11-14-2005, 12:26 AM

I bought them both cheap, but haven't gotten around to playing them.

Kurufinwe · 11-14-2005, 01:27 AM

They're both a collection of logic puzzles, some fun and original, others boring and clichéd. The second one also had a huge amount of treasure hunting sequences; you may enjoy them if you're into cryptic crosswords. There's also some sort of plot in-between, but the story is bland and the acting so bad it might almost be funny. At the time, the graphics were The Best Thing Ever, but that was a decade ago. The soundtrack was really nice; it was composed for a Roland Sound Canvas, though, and the cheap General MIDI chipsets you find in today's computers probably won't do it justice.

Running them might be a tad tricky. Well, the first one runs fine under DOSBox, if you know how to use that. I'm not sure about the second one; last time I tried, several months ago, I was unable to get it to run under DOSBox (graphics card problems); maybe it works better now, possibly with the current development version. I also believe there was some sort of not-quite-official Windows port of the game's interpreter; I have no idea how well it works (if at all), though. Google is your friend.

Dohi · 11-14-2005, 01:57 AM

I loved the 7th guest even if I had to use a walkthru most of the time

the 11th hour is not that good, but it has multiple endings. the music, btw, is great, but again, mostly only in t7g. you should pop the 2nd cd into a cd player and listen to it (it has an almost 30 minute long audio track on it while the 1st cd only has the great violin solo as an audio track).

bysmitty · 11-14-2005, 05:07 AM

Or you can pick up the CD "7/11" by the Fat Man (George Sanger) and Team Fat. I really loved his work in these games and the CD is a fantastic showcase! I know the have copies over at www.synsoniq.com if you don't mind buying from Germany and paying for international shipping. If you want to order it from the states, head over to www.fatman.com. He has links to buy the CD through Texas Music Roundup or something.

I agree with the above post. I loved the first game. I even played through it about a year ago on my DOS computer and had a great time with it even after all these years. I had trouble getting into the 2nd one. Eventually gave up about half way through. Some day I'll give it another go.

...bysmitty

seebaruk · 11-14-2005, 05:25 AM

11th Hour was the first game I bought on CD-ROM, to see how my new PC handled video. I had to use a walkthrough for pretty much every treasure-hunting bit of it. I was a bit gutted by the lack of gore in it, I thought it would have decapitations and murders all over the place. Then I got Phantasmagoria and realised graphic vioence doesn't really mean a game will be any good.

Captain Blondebeard · 11-16-2005, 01:24 AM

Never heard of them. Are they anything like Mario Bros?

bysmitty · 11-16-2005, 04:45 AM

They're EXACTLY like Mario Bros only in these games, you walk very very slowly around a pre-rendered mansion and solve puzzles and word problems rather than running around levels and bouncing on or shooting fireballs at enemies and sliding down flagpoles. It's more of an evolution of the Mario gameplay than anything. Other than that, they're almost identical. If imitation is the sincearest for of flattery then... something something blah blah something.

...bysmitty

Maester · 11-16-2005, 05:03 AM

Does anyone know if there is a site you can download the 11th hour music ?
there are music sites for many adventure games but I couldn't find one for this game.

bysmitty · 11-16-2005, 06:17 AM

None that I can think of off the top of my head. I highly recommend the soundtrack CD. Also, you can put disc 2 of the orginal T7G in a normal CD player to listen to the music. Just skip track 1 which is the game data.

...bysmitty

Kurufinwe · 11-16-2005, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Maester

Does anyone know if there is a site you can download the 11th hour music ?
there are music sites for many adventure games but I couldn't find one for this game.

Errrm... Google is your friend? (see esp. 1st or 3rd link)

Maester · 11-16-2005, 07:55 AM

Well I meant the original audio files, not the midi ones.
anyway, does anyone know on which CD the 11th hour music files are?

Kurufinwe · 11-16-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Maester

Well I meant the original audio files, not the midi ones.
anyway, does anyone know on which CD the 11th hour music files are?

Most of the game's music was MIDI. There were some digital ones (some with voices) which can be accessed in the 'making of' section of the game. I tried extracting them some while ago, but was unable to (using GAP).

I think all of them are on the 7/11 CD anyway.

woxel1 · 11-16-2005, 05:56 PM

I heartily recommend the Fat Man's Soundtrack to T7G and T11, 7/11.
Too bad these games never got ported to Mac OS X... GRAEME DEVINE!!!

Captain Blondebeard · 11-16-2005, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bysmitty

They're EXACTLY like Mario Bros only in these games, you walk very very slowly around a pre-rendered mansion and solve puzzles and word problems rather than running around levels and bouncing on or shooting fireballs at enemies and sliding down flagpoles. It's more of an evolution of the Mario gameplay than anything. Other than that, they're almost identical. If imitation is the sincearest for of flattery then... something something blah blah something.

...bysmitty

I enjoyed 7th guest much more than killing Koopa even though the princess was hot.

Phantom · 11-17-2005, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurufinwe

Running them might be a tad tricky. Well, the first one runs fine under DOSBox, if you know how to use that.

Care to explain how you did it? I tried, but couldn't get it to work.

Kurufinwe · 11-17-2005, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Care to explain how you did it? I tried, but couldn't get it to work.

As far as I can remember, it's standard DOSBox procedure. Requires the CD-ROM (with red book audio for the intro and the credits), General MIDI for the music and SoundBlaster (possibly SB16, though I'm not sure of that) for the audio.

If you don't know how to enable and set up all that, see the DOSBox readme, the DOSBox wiki and the various guides in the official DOSBox forums. Everything is explained there in great detail.

bysmitty · 11-17-2005, 04:51 AM

How to get dosBox to run? Well first you exit out of windows xp and walk away from your bleeding fast super computer. You grab a 10-15 year old PC and load Dos6 and Win3.1 on it. Next get you peripherals installed (such a sound and video for those lush 256color VGA graphics and those drool enducing digital sound effects). And then you load the dos game of your choice on it. Wa-La!!! You just created a dosBox.

PII - 266mhz / 128mb RAM / 6 gig HD / Dos 6 & Win3.1

Intel 486/33 / 16mb RAM / 600mb HD / Dos 6 & Win3.1

:wink: I know how non-feasable this might be for most people but if you have the space and the few resources it takes, it's a great solution for running older games.

Ok class, our next lesson will be running spreadsheets off of a dumb termal hooked to a mainframe.

...bysmitty

Erwin_Br · 11-18-2005, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woxel1

I heartily recommend the Fat Man's Soundtrack to T7G and T11, 7/11.
Too bad these games never got ported to Mac OS X... GRAEME DEVINE!!!

I love his work. I especially like the soundtrack he made for Wing Commander 3.

--Erwin

bysmitty · 11-18-2005, 04:49 AM

Quote:

I love his work. I especially like the soundtrack he made for Wing Commander 3.

The Fat Man is also a genius and a great dresser.

If you want a good read, check out his new book. It is seriously one of the funniest and most entertaining thing I've read in years.

...bysmitty

(Okay Fat Man, I plugged your book, now where is my $5!?!)

11-13-2005, 09:06 PM	#1
The Anomaly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6	7th Guest and 11th Hour.... Does anyone remember these two games from way back for the PC? The 11th Hour is the sequel. I bought both of them and they never really worked good on my computer. I always wanted to play really bad though. What did you think? Share Share this post on Twitter

11-14-2005, 12:26 AM	#2
MdaG Master of time and space Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sverige Posts: 1,480	I bought them both cheap, but haven't gotten around to playing them. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ ...

11-14-2005, 01:27 AM	#3
Kurufinwe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 3,038	They're both a collection of logic puzzles, some fun and original, others boring and clichéd. The second one also had a huge amount of treasure hunting sequences; you may enjoy them if you're into cryptic crosswords. There's also some sort of plot in-between, but the story is bland and the acting so bad it might almost be funny. At the time, the graphics were The Best Thing Ever, but that was a decade ago. The soundtrack was really nice; it was composed for a Roland Sound Canvas, though, and the cheap General MIDI chipsets you find in today's computers probably won't do it justice. Running them might be a tad tricky. Well, the first one runs fine under DOSBox, if you know how to use that. I'm not sure about the second one; last time I tried, several months ago, I was unable to get it to run under DOSBox (graphics card problems); maybe it works better now, possibly with the current development version. I also believe there was some sort of not-quite-official Windows port of the game's interpreter; I have no idea how well it works (if at all), though. Google is your friend. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Currently reading: Dune (F. Herbert) Recently finished: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (J. K. Rowling) [++], La Nuit des Temps (R. Barjavel) [+++] Currently playing: Skyrim Recently finished: MCF: Escape from Ravenhearst [+], The Walking Dead, ep. 1 [+++], Gray Matter [++]

11-14-2005, 01:57 AM	#4
Dohi Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 53	I loved the 7th guest even if I had to use a walkthru most of the time the 11th hour is not that good, but it has multiple endings. the music, btw, is great, but again, mostly only in t7g. you should pop the 2nd cd into a cd player and listen to it (it has an almost 30 minute long audio track on it while the 1st cd only has the great violin solo as an audio track). Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Webmaster of the original Commodore 64 H.Q.

11-14-2005, 05:07 AM	#5
bysmitty Bad command or file name Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 932	Or you can pick up the CD "7/11" by the Fat Man (George Sanger) and Team Fat. I really loved his work in these games and the CD is a fantastic showcase! I know the have copies over at www.synsoniq.com if you don't mind buying from Germany and paying for international shipping. If you want to order it from the states, head over to www.fatman.com. He has links to buy the CD through Texas Music Roundup or something. I agree with the above post. I loved the first game. I even played through it about a year ago on my DOS computer and had a great time with it even after all these years. I had trouble getting into the 2nd one. Eventually gave up about half way through. Some day I'll give it another go. ...bysmitty Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Things I need to do today: -change out of pajamas -~~come up with witty yet sophisticated signature~~ -sober up -~~watch simpsons at 6pm~~ -UPDATE MY WEBSITE!!!

11-14-2005, 05:25 AM	#6
seebaruk Chris Barraclough Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,437	11th Hour was the first game I bought on CD-ROM, to see how my new PC handled video. I had to use a walkthrough for pretty much every treasure-hunting bit of it. I was a bit gutted by the lack of gore in it, I thought it would have decapitations and murders all over the place. Then I got Phantasmagoria and realised graphic vioence doesn't really mean a game will be any good. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Games and Tech journo, and broke-arse author of Bat Boy (UK Authors Prize 2010 Winner), Crack (Page Turner Prize 2011 shortlisted) and Dead Dogs (nominated for the Dylan Thomas Sony Reader Award). Check out www.chrisbarraclough.co.uk for promotions and giveaways. Twitter: Seebaruk

11-16-2005, 01:24 AM	#7
Captain Blondebeard Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 1,541	Never heard of them. Are they anything like Mario Bros? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Glad to have my old username back. GhostPirateLechuck no longer.

11-16-2005, 04:45 AM	#8
bysmitty Bad command or file name Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 932	They're EXACTLY like Mario Bros only in these games, you walk very very slowly around a pre-rendered mansion and solve puzzles and word problems rather than running around levels and bouncing on or shooting fireballs at enemies and sliding down flagpoles. It's more of an evolution of the Mario gameplay than anything. Other than that, they're almost identical. If imitation is the sincearest for of flattery then... something something blah blah something. ...bysmitty Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Things I need to do today: -change out of pajamas -~~come up with witty yet sophisticated signature~~ -sober up -~~watch simpsons at 6pm~~ -UPDATE MY WEBSITE!!!

11-16-2005, 05:03 AM	#9
Maester Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9	The 11th hour music Does anyone know if there is a site you can download the 11th hour music ? there are music sites for many adventure games but I couldn't find one for this game. Share Share this post on Twitter

11-16-2005, 06:17 AM	#10
bysmitty Bad command or file name Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 932	None that I can think of off the top of my head. I highly recommend the soundtrack CD. Also, you can put disc 2 of the orginal T7G in a normal CD player to listen to the music. Just skip track 1 which is the game data. ...bysmitty Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Things I need to do today: -change out of pajamas -~~come up with witty yet sophisticated signature~~ -sober up -~~watch simpsons at 6pm~~ -UPDATE MY WEBSITE!!!

11-16-2005, 07:55 AM	#12
Maester Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9	11th hour music Well I meant the original audio files, not the midi ones. anyway, does anyone know on which CD the 11th hour music files are? Share Share this post on Twitter

11-16-2005, 05:56 PM	#14
woxel1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 12	I heartily recommend the Fat Man's Soundtrack to T7G and T11, 7/11. Too bad these games never got ported to Mac OS X... GRAEME DEVINE!!! Share Share this post on Twitter

11-17-2005, 04:51 AM	#18
bysmitty Bad command or file name Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 932	How to get dosBox to run? Well first you exit out of windows xp and walk away from your bleeding fast super computer. You grab a 10-15 year old PC and load Dos6 and Win3.1 on it. Next get you peripherals installed (such a sound and video for those lush 256color VGA graphics and those drool enducing digital sound effects). And then you load the dos game of your choice on it. Wa-La!!! You just created a dosBox. PII - 266mhz / 128mb RAM / 6 gig HD / Dos 6 & Win3.1 Intel 486/33 / 16mb RAM / 600mb HD / Dos 6 & Win3.1 :wink: I know how non-feasable this might be for most people but if you have the space and the few resources it takes, it's a great solution for running older games. Ok class, our next lesson will be running spreadsheets off of a dumb termal hooked to a mainframe. ...bysmitty Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Things I need to do today: -change out of pajamas -~~come up with witty yet sophisticated signature~~ -sober up -~~watch simpsons at 6pm~~ -UPDATE MY WEBSITE!!!

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