Who do you hate the most for what they did to adventure games? - Page 2

Kaelistus · 10-07-2005, 06:51 AM

LOL! And got into a huge legal fight with Valve about it...

RLacey · 10-07-2005, 07:02 AM

I seem to be the only person in the world that actually supports Vivendi over part of their argument against Valve.

But, hey, EA handles Valve's games now.

*stepurhan* · 10-08-2005, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by temporaryscars

I'd have to say collectors who keep hard to find adventure games, so the ones you do find go for $60 on ebay.

Can see where you're coming from with that one. If a game is just sitting on someone's shelf gathering dust (because there are too many new games for them to replay it) it does seem a tremendous waste. That poor little game is not fulfilling its purpose in life any more.

But time does take its toll on old games as well. Corrupted disks. Scratched CDs. Lost copy protection wheels. Sometimes hard-to-find is just down to how many copies have physically survived.

If there are any particular games you had in mind with this post though, drop me a PM and I'll keep an eye out for you.

BoyToy · 10-08-2005, 07:37 AM

Any publisher that releases inferior adventure games, should be sent on their journey the center of the earth*).
A game should either be a quality title, or not be published at all.

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*) Disclaimer: I'm not trying to imply any judgement on "Journey To The Center Of The Earth"; I haven't even played it.

samIamsad · 10-08-2005, 07:48 AM

All of you people who bought Grim Fandango for cheap!

Hammerite · 10-08-2005, 01:27 PM

Technically I didn't buy it cheap.
I got it for my birthday... and then got it again in the LucasArts Entertainment Pack boxset.

SirDave · 10-08-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by temporaryscars

I'd have to say collectors who keep hard to find adventure games, so the ones you do find go for $60 on ebay.

Damn straight. Hate those guys!

(He says looking up at his Alice Interactive Museum, original Gadget, sealed boxed 3 Skulls of the Toltecs, 2 sealed boxed Celticas, sealed boxed Cassandra Galleries, sealed boxed Dinotop......)

Fien · 10-08-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SirDave

(He says looking up at his Alice Interactive Museum, original Gadget, sealed boxed 3 Skulls of the Toltecs, 2 sealed boxed Celticas, sealed boxed Cassandra Galleries, sealed boxed Dinotop......)

Two sealed Celticas... eh...
Two SEALED Celticas...?
I mean, TWO...? Sealed? BOTH of them? Why TWO?
I'm absolutely flabbergasted.

Seals and shrinkwrap are highly overrated. Yessir.
Imo, imo, imo.

JHousequake · 10-08-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammerite

I think what Vivendi did was bad but hey, they DID publish Half-Life.

Before selling Sierra, Kenneth Williams was in talks with Valve to help fund and develop the game. After he left, the project didn't fall victim to Cendant's path of destruction because they pretty much knew Ken had found them a winner. So in a way, Half-Life was still a part of the old Sierra.

Toefur · 10-09-2005, 01:47 AM

So, on that note I think we can hate Ken Williams for selling Sierra, for what that did to adventure games...

Ariel Type · 10-09-2005, 02:41 AM

After reading S&M poll the first thought on voting was "LA, of course!". So I did.. Than I remembered that Vivendi was the one that ruined Sierra, and *snob* poor Coktel. Ah, even the death of S&M2 can't compare to the deaths of those legends..

*stepurhan* · 10-10-2005, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Type

After reading S&M poll..........

The S&M poll? Have I wandered into the wrong forums here?

pinkgothic · 10-10-2005, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stepurhan

The S&M poll?

I'm sure some searching will prove you can find both sorts here

10-10-2005, 07:17 AM

They didn't do anything to the genre.

guybrush122 · 10-10-2005, 07:42 AM

LucasArts. I was never a Sierra person.

How can you argue with Fate of Atlantis, the Monkey Island series, Grim Fandango, Sam and Max, The Dig, and Full Throttle? And the bastards destroyed it! DESTROYED IT ALL WITH STAR WARS BULLSHIT.

10-10-2005, 07:46 AM

Can't blame them. They know how to milk that shit for what it's worth... and then some.

AFGNCAAP · 10-10-2005, 08:03 AM

Will Crowther. If he hadn't made that stupid Colossal Cave game years ago, S&M2 cancellation, KQIX getting shut down, Infocom's, Cocktel's, Legend's and other companies' demise, an epidemy of Myst clones, the general downfall of the adventure genre - none of those awful things would ever happen.

Damn you, Crowther, it is all your fault!

*stuboy* · 10-10-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SamNMax

Can't blame them. They know how to milk that shit for what it's worth... and then some.

It's not even a good business plan at the end of the day. I respect the fact that they exist to make profits not give art grants, but LA are f***ing themselves slowly; you can only milk one tired brand (which wont have any new films) so long before the general public realises your little game and you destroy the two powerful brands you have; Star Wars and the Lucasarts name people remember. They aren't thinking long term; the CEO probably wants to move on or retire so doesn't care about long term growth, only short term profit strategies.

austin2359 · 10-10-2005, 09:31 AM

Vivendi gets it.

RLacey · 10-10-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stuboy

It's not even a good business plan at the end of the day. I respect the fact that they exist to make profits not give art grants, but LA are f***ing themselves slowly; you can only milk one tired brand (which wont have any new films) so long before the general public realises your little game and you destroy the two powerful brands you have; Star Wars and the Lucasarts name people remember. They aren't thinking long term; the CEO probably wants to move on or retire so doesn't care about long term growth, only short term profit strategies.

The CEO who was appointed fairly recently? I doubt it.

The cynic in me says that, whatever Mr Lucas may say, someone will end up making another Star Wars film. And I'm not kidding about this...

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Ariel Type LA-S-LE Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Snow Country Posts: 549	After reading S&M poll the first thought on voting was "LA, of course!". So I did.. Than I remembered that Vivendi was the one that ruined Sierra, and snob poor Coktel. Ah, even the death of S&M2 can't compare to the deaths of those legends.. Share Share this post on Twitter

10-10-2005, 07:17 AM	#34
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10-10-2005, 07:42 AM	#35
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10-10-2005, 07:46 AM	#36
SamNMax Guest Posts: n/a	Can't blame them. They know how to milk that shit for what it's worth... and then some. Share Share this post on Twitter

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AFGNCAAP Dungeon Master Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 4,152	Will Crowther. If he hadn't made that stupid Colossal Cave game years ago, S&M2 cancellation, KQIX getting shut down, Infocom's, Cocktel's, Legend's and other companies' demise, an epidemy of Myst clones, the general downfall of the adventure genre - none of those awful things would ever happen. Damn you, Crowther, it is all your fault! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ What's happening? Wh... Where am I?

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austin2359 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 26	Vivendi gets it. Share Share this post on Twitter

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