[jokieman]

Originally Posted by undeaf

That it will be much harder to make a better console next time! To make a console that'll be close to as much of an improvement, they'll have to wait a lot longer, since the alternative seems very unlikely. To not wait extra, they'll have to use more expensive chips, use a heatsink at least comparable to a scythe ninja on the CPU(and also a better one on the GPU), and either use....

Again you are misinformed. Intel's Duo Core and Soon to be released Quad Core Processors use less power and do not heat up nearly as much. Their Goals have been to reduce power consumption, lower heat, and raise performance, and they are doing so. http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archi...060926corp.htm

The next gen console machines will be boasting many more processors at lower heat/power consumption and will rival movie (or at least Pixar) in visual and audio quality.


Do you even understand sony's "cell" processor technology and how it works?

As far as we know Sony's "Cell" technology is going to be just another "failed" technology. Sony is famous for creating proprietary hardware/software that they try to push on consumers, and they are famous for failing at those attempts.


Do you understand how much longer it is going to take game companies to produce titles for Sony's Proprietary platform? When working with the Xbox the technologies are known. Gaming companies have been producing games on the PC processor architecture for years. The Cell technology is going to mean a lot of delays for developers because like SONY, they are going to have to hurdle massive issues, not the least of which is trying to program for a totally new technology... And how are you going to like it when you have to go buy a blender with a cell processor to run the latest and greatest PS3 game? How about a fridge or a washing machine? Again, do you KNOW how the cell technology is intended to work?

When company's like Apple see the benefit of going with similar technology to be more competitive in the market place, Sony is still using decades old tactics to keep them on top, and it's not working for them. I predict Sony is going to continue to have issues for the coming years, they are not doing very well at all in the overall marketplace and they are losing their reputation for building quality products. (seriously, have you bought a set of Sony earphones lately? they fall apart in under 2 months. I could name dozens of other Sony products that are suffering from severe quality issues right now.)

In short. While Apple got wise and went with Intel. Sony and IBM got stupid and have decided to go the old Apple route, via propiertary hardware/software and it's going to bite Sony on the ass since they're the ones who are going forward with the technology. IBM is wisely going to sit back and see how Sony fares before they make anymore big investments into it.


Following is a brief overview of how the Cell processor is expected to Work: http://news.com.com/2100-1001-948493.html

Following is a excerpt from Wikipedia on Cell Technology and why Developers are going to have a bitch of a time programming anything for it:

The architecture emphasizes efficiency/watt, prioritizes bandwidth over latency, and favors peak computational throughput over simplicity of program code. For these reasons, Cell is widely regarded as a challenging environment for software development. IBM provides a comprehensive Linux-based Cell development platform to assist developers in confronting these challenges. Software adoption remains a key issue in whether Cell ultimately delivers on its performance potential.

The idea with Cell is to take the load off the chip and stick it with the software. Which means the software has to be a lot more complicated and exact to run on the Cell platform.

THIS is why Sony doesn't give anyone a choice about the Blue-Ray technology. Because their PS3 NEEDS that technology to overcome the much larger file sizes with all of the extra code embedded into the programs to make them work on the Cell Processor.

The primary strength of the Cell processor besides the fact it simplifies it's own processes (which is no strength at all if you can't get developers to write software for it.), also has to deal with the fact that in the future you'll NEED a Cell processor in your T.V. and other appliances to RUN those next gen games because the cell processors will work together to bring the power necessary to run something as simple as... The latest PS3 game.

The idea is to force everyone at some point to buy nothing but Cell embedded products so that people can get the most processing power out of their computers, games, cell phones. using wireless broadband technology so the processors can "link" together to provide the necessary computing power to run whatever it is you need to run.

It doesn't take much of an imagination to see how this technology could be a very, very, bad thing if the wrong people figured out how to exploit it. But I digress.


There's a reason why Nobody has seen much of the games expected to launch with the PS3. Can you guess why?