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Jackal Jackal
Jul 19, 2016

Lots of good thoughts here, and of course we appreciate the show of support.

Just want to comment on a couple things quickly. While one should never say never, and I’m not officially speaking for Marek, I will say that the thought of a paywall/subscription has never once came up as a possibility in our discussions, as that would pretty much oppose everything AG has stood for all these years. So that really isn’t a viable future for the site. 

Lakerz, even if it were true that the forums essentially duplicate the main site’s news section (and it isn’t, as literally seven new games have been reported just since Marek’s announcement that haven’t had so much as a whisper on the forums), the fact is that the forums represent a very small fraction of our overall readership. To do away with news would be exactly the sort of stripped-down, community-driven compromise that would no longer serve anyone but the hardest of hardcore adventure community. That would be a huge step backwards from where we are now.

All the suggestions of new features we could add have been duly noted, and indeed many of them have been considered already. The problem with adding MORE of anything is that it’s a constant struggle just to keep up with what we’re already doing. In fact, completely unrelated to Marek’s announcement, it will soon be time for another recruitment drive to supplement the current staff. It’s only July, and there are already 83 games on our preliminary 2016 Aggie list. 83!! In half a year!! So, yeah. Again, I’m not saying no and I’m certainly not saying never to anyone’s ideas. But major expansion or serious diversification really isn’t on the table for the foreseeable future.

Unless we’re bought out by a millionaire, adventure-loving philanthropist, that is. Tongue


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hayyel
Jul 19, 2016

Hi guys!
Im relatively new to the site (between 1 and 2 years), so not sure how welcome my insight is, but here we go Smile
First and foremost I love that it exists, it helped me a lot with finding new games that don’t appear on more commercial sites and I mostly enjoyed them. I am a fan of adventure games above all else, and I find it great that there is a “small” group that agrees with me - there’s nothing quite like a good point and click game LucasArts style. I hope that he site will remain as much accessible to everyone as possible, however I do realize that it would require a lot of work from a lot of awesome people to be so.
Still, I think the site would need to change somewhat. As I said I’m a new user, visiting off and on again just for the purpose of checking if anything new is on the radars, and the YouTube channel helps a lot, but I really think it doesn’t get as much love as it deserves. Every time I see a new trailer on there I immediately go to check it out, but I noticed that there are barely any views/comments on them, which is kind of sad because there is some great content. I wish someone would put a little love in the YouTube channel as a means to attract more people who love adventure games as much as I do, and I really think having a good YT channel would help solve some of the issues as people nowadays spend way too much time there. I propose making other types of videos for the channel, and not just posting trailers, like very short reviews or walkthroughs, or videos about easter eggs and such… you know, for people who are not that into reading.
I propose setting up a kind of account too, where individuals could sort their favorite games, rate them and even share them if they want - somewhat like a “Goodreads” site for adventure games. Then it would truly be a fun community experience Smile

All the best to you guys and thanks for existing Smile


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lakerz
Jul 17, 2016

I agree with Colpet that the JA transition experience should be avoided at all costs.  Don’t get me wrong, I like the JA community perfectly fine and post on the forum, but they transformed the actual website into a rather confusing mess.  Worst was making the focus on the online store and having access to the forums become an opaque process including changing the name to digital download forum or whatever.  Kind of weird and off putting.

I also think going to a paywall subscription model would *not* work at all.  AG would lose 90%+ of it’s traffic if that were to happen IMO. 

I personally think a community centered model would work.  I can envision not just a community focused review section but also a type of metacritic scoring system for all games where every member is free to give their 2 cents and score.  I think the whole AG section of posting news tidbits could probably go away, as the forums do a good job of following day to day news.  Not to mention it is easy enough to go on Steam and see which adventure games released any given week/month. 

Speaking of Steam, I think it would be a bit hard to run a competing game download store with that kind of competition.  Between Steam/GOG/Gamersgate + rest of the others, any venture along that path seems unlikely to be worth the work.  But then again, maybe I am wrong, and if that third party has a slick solution then it could work out well. 

Good luck no matter what.  I would hate to see AG falter, as it seems to be the healthiest of all Adventure genre websites with Gameboomers being right up there as well.


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colpet colpet
Jul 17, 2016

I would take a slimmed down version over an unknown expansion. I look at what happened to JA. That didn’t transition well. Gameboomers is still going strong with reviews, previews, and a very active forum. It doesn’t have a lot of bells and whistles.


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Daventry Daventry
Jul 17, 2016

Wow. I have been visiting this site since day one. Though I do not visit as often as some other sites, (mainly because the frequency of updates hasn’t required it), it has always been the site that is nearest to my heart. There is no other site on the Web that is as laser focused on the adventure gaming genre, no other rally point for it’s fans, and so, a vacuum would be created from it’s loss. Lots of other sites will dip their fingers in an adventure game from time to time, but when I wanted the straight scoop on the scene from people who knew what they were talking about, this is where I turned. I have loved everything about this site over the years from it’s community forum of like minded (and sometimes not so like minded) fans to it’s adventure laden logo. Mostly though, I loved it because I could tell that the site leadership loved the adventure genre as much as I did. That, they were touched and influenced by the Grim Fandangos, Monkey Islands, Kings Quests and Gabriel Knights and countless other priceless memories just as much as I. That love always shone through, helped the site maintain its authenticity and set it apart from the countless other corporate gaming sites out there. I think you are doing the right thing in taking it slowly and being methodical in the hand off process. Whatever you end up doing, my only advice would be to only relinquish the reins to someone who has a deep seated reverence for the adventure gaming genre, someone who will not compromise, who will carry the banner high and proudly and who will carry forward the specialty nature of the site. Finally, I am glad to have this chance to end by saying THANK YOU!!! Your dedication and sacrifice at maintaining this site provided me with a great many special memories and helped carry the torch across the wide gap between the golden days of the industry and this current renaissance. During that long dark stretch this was a home and a haven for us wandering explorers. A debt I will forever carry with me. You are the best! I wish you all the luck in the future. God bless and take care!


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Tamiil
Jul 17, 2016

Yeah, I don’t understand the pay wall thing either. Everything should continue to be free to get the max user base. Donations should just be an option for people who this site means more than a casual place they visit.

And doing youtube videos with ads doesn’t earn you much money at all unless you’re a well established channel with millions of monthly views. There’s a reason so many youtubers have Patreon as the second and often times main source of income. Still it could be an additional way of making money among others.

That’s probably the way to go - have lots of different revenue sources which add up to something significant.


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aseonov aseonov
Jul 17, 2016

@nomadsoul - I don’t agree, I think that good subscription / donationware model could actually strengthen community and make editorial / freelance staff more connected to their readers. Only all-time exclusive features for an example, for premium users, should be ad-free website and advanced search for upgraded database, all other premium content should only have time-based exclusivity, like, for an example, a podcast you mention.

There is no guarantee for anything, it’s just ideas and suggestions, that have sense in current state, if alternatives like new owner doesn’t show up. You hardly lose anything. If it doesn’t work AG will go in full community route, and that’s it… Video reviews, YouTube shows, Twitch playthroughs, can all be sources of income for website, if are made with a care and quality…


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nomadsoul nomadsoul
Jul 16, 2016

This premium pay wall will limit the users and will make the community even more niche and gated, but podcast is cool a idea , might as well do youtube video reviews with ads to support reviewers themselves.

But all ideas are cool on paper, things will start to prop up after implementation. So there is no guarantee of long term success.


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aseonov aseonov
Jul 16, 2016

I actually started writing a comment but it ends up far too long, so I send to Marek mail. To cut things short, I think that AG should take hybrid route to monetization and global organization of the website. If site finds new owner with some capital it will probably end up most of the current problems, if not, however, it should use multiple income solution before going into full community role. Probably the most important one is subscription model that should be flexible and not too restrictive. News and reviews section, for an example, should stay same and that should be enough for most casual visitors.


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Tamiil
Jul 16, 2016

I guess I should also mention how adventuregamers.com can help developers reach a larger audience outside the traffic this site gets. I’m a youtuber and I do a lot of videos about my favorite genre ofc, which is adventure. And I get info about these games exclusively from here. So if this site goes away then so goes my coverage. I’m sure I’m not the only youtuber around here also. It’s not just the 120k monthly users the adventure game industry would lose with this site, but in extension everyone who follows a youtuber who gets his/her info here.


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bokkie
Jul 16, 2016

I’m not a die hard fan and wouldn’t look at the site of the content was behind a paywall. I would however buy games through the website if the games would end up in my gog or steam library of that would support the site. Now that would also be 5 games at max a year so it wouldn’t raise that much for the site. Keep in mind that you don’t lose what makes you unique.


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SoccerDude28 SoccerDude28
Jul 16, 2016

For me, adventuregamers is my goto website on the internet. I like how it kept its focus on adventure games even one everyone counted adventure games to be dead. I will do anything in my limited power to support this website and keep it alive and keep its soul intact whether it is patreon or yearly subscription.


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Juronomo
Jul 15, 2016

Patreon is a great idea! I’d be willing to pay up to $50 a year to keep the site running. Old articles can be archived so that only users who have paid the premium have full access. Thanks for consulting the community on this one.


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fabian
Jul 15, 2016

I’ve been regularly visiting your site since it is the only trustworthy english speaking site I found with content written by people who respect, are able to review and of course to criticize the adventure genre.
I was also wondering how you all keep up this great piece of work for this whole time.
An option might be also to cooperate with another site from other countries, that might have the same problems or already found a solution.
Since I’m German there is for example adventure-treff.de which you might already know. As far as I understand this site also depends on the work of enthusiasts and there is a lively community. Maybe it is an possible work together (ok - localisation is a big thing in games). But maybe there are some common ideas about the business model to share.
I highly appreciate your work and the time you spend to keep this site running.
Best for the future
Fabian


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DuRacell Ioan
Jul 13, 2016

Hmm, it’s a tough one, glad you are keeping us loyal followers informed though. Great website by the way, visitor for years and years



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